Daniel McCarthy joins the show to continue last week's discussion of the rapid breakdown of America's political order, with wokeism rising on the Left and Reaganism dying on the Right. McCarthy gives us his critique of the liberal technocratic order, and makes his case for where libertarians go wrong in their utilitarian and acultural approach. His prescription is for a new fusionism, with a reinvigorated Rothbardian populism as one critical element. The legacy of Ron Paul's presidential campaigns, McCarthy explains, is the philosophical critique of welfarism and warfarism. But changing society is a long game—one the Left plays well—so we must do the same.