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Debunked: "Red States Are Just Welfare Queens"

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03/02/2023Tho BishopRyan McMaken

This episode of Radio Rothbard revisits a point in our previous episode about the popular claim on leftwing Twitter that red-state America would be a "third world country" without support from the federal government. Ryan McMaken and Tho Bishop discuss Ryan's recent article on the topic, as well as the legacy of populist politics, and the unseen consequences of uniparty addiction to DC money.

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Contact Tho Bishop

Tho is an assistant editor for the Mises Wire, and can assist with questions from the press. Prior to working for the Mises Institute, he served as Deputy Communications Director for the House Financial Services Committee. His articles have been featured in The Federalist, the Daily Caller, and Business Insider.

Contact Ryan McMaken

Ryan McMaken (@ryanmcmaken) is a senior editor at the Mises Institute. Send him your article submissions for the Mises Wire and Power and Market, but read article guidelines first. Ryan has a bachelor's degree in economics and a master's degree in public policy and international relations from the University of Colorado. He was a housing economist for the State of Colorado. He is the author of Breaking Away: The Case of Secession, Radical Decentralization, and Smaller Polities and Commie Cowboys: The Bourgeoisie and the Nation-State in the Western Genre.