The Mises Community
An online community for fans of Austrian economics and libertarianism, featuring forums, user blogs, and more.

Thank you for your participation and interest in the Mises Community. This software platform has seen its day, however, and so is now closed. We are redoing our entire site, so look for some exciting developments by the end of the year. Thank you for your support of Austrian economics, liberty, and peace.

Why does taxing stock trade result in price decrease?

rated by 0 users
Not Answered This post has 0 verified answers | 3 Replies | 1 Follower

Not Ranked
5 Posts
Points 100
lyly posted on Fri, Oct 28 2011 6:08 PM

Hey guys, I am new here and I come from China. 

My question is this, every time this government (CPC) raises stamp tax on the stock market, the market reacts with collapses. Does this observation in any way contradict the "you tax something you get higher price" ?  For example, when this government raises real estate tax, housing price soars.

My guess is that it has something to do with price elasticity? i.e. When you tax stock trade the money is easily transferred elsewhere which results in decrease in price, whereas it's more difficult to do that in real estate market, and that ultimately the price of stock market will rise due to the taxation?

Do help me out on this one. 

  • | Post Points: 20

All Replies

Top 50 Contributor
2,360 Posts
Points 43,785
z1235 replied on Fri, Oct 28 2011 6:50 PM

The stock trade tax is a transaction tax, which lowers the incentive to trade, which lowers trading volume, which lowers liquidity, which lowers the incentive to hold a less liquid asset. So stock prices -- ceteris paribus -- should fall, or rise less than they otherwise would without the tax.

The real estate tax is an asset tax, which increases the cost of owning the asset, which lowers the incentive to hold a more costly asset. So RE prices -- ceteris paribus -- should fall, or rise less than they otherwise would without the tax. 

Prices should fall in both cases relative to a no-tax scenario. The fact that, in absolute terms, they fell in the first case, and they kept rising in the second, is only a reflection of the strength of the underlying price trends in each market. 

 

  • | Post Points: 20
Not Ranked
5 Posts
Points 100
lyly replied on Fri, Oct 28 2011 8:19 PM

Thank you for your answer. 

I am sorry if I did not make it clear. The real estate tax I'm talking about is a transaction cost: you pay taxes when you buy a house. But it seems irrelevent to the question anyway. 

I am a bit confused about price fall. If the government tax automobile or tobaccos, will their prices fall? What's the difference?

Also, by underlying strength, are you suggesting that there may be bubbles in the stock market while the real estate market has much solid demands?

Thank you. 

 

 

  • | Post Points: 20
Top 50 Contributor
2,360 Posts
Points 43,785
z1235 replied on Fri, Oct 28 2011 8:49 PM

You are right. The argument remains the same when the RE tax is a transaction one, as well. 

In general, transaction taxes on X are discouraging transactions in X, which decreases market liquidity in X, which hurts the market in X. But liquidity is not the only factor that determines the price of X. If people need cars, they'll own them, as renting them long-term is prohibitively expensive. Less people may be able to afford them (hence there'd be less cars sold) but the ones who could afford them would still pay the tax and the higher price. If people need tobacco, like every nicotine addict does, they'll pay whatever high price which is still low enough to keep them stay addicted. Not so with houses, as one could rent if ownership becomes too expensive or risky due to taxation. (Would you buy X if there was a 100% transaction tax on X?) Not so with stocks either, as one could live without trading stocks if/when doing so becomes too expensive due to taxation. 

As for your last question, there could be bubbles in both Chinese stocks and real estate but each at a different stage and/or intensity depending on government policies.

 

  • | Post Points: 5
Page 1 of 1 (4 items) | RSS

Ludwig von Mises Institute | 518 West Magnolia Avenue | Auburn, Alabama 36832-4528

Phone: 334.321.2100 · Fax: 334.321.2119

contact@Mises.org | webmaster | AOL-IM MainMises

Mises.org sitemap