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Re: A Note on Forum Etiquette

Caley McKibbin — Thu, 13 May 2010 04:16:13 GMT

I only insult people behind their backs. So, I'm prissy enough for a British tea party.

Re: A Note on Forum Etiquette

ViennaSausage — Thu, 13 May 2010 03:31:04 GMT

Any ad hominem argument should be unacceptable.

Re: A Note on Forum Etiquette

Bert — Thu, 13 May 2010 03:26:44 GMT

Esuric made my point. It's not whether you are going to disprove the belief in god(s), or the philosophy behind a religion, or the cultural significance, but that someone is making blind assertions with no evidence and in the process being rude with insults. I wouldn't expect anyone on this forum to call a Native American's religion ignorant and backwards just as much as I wouldn't expect them to say it about any major religion.

I wouldn't expect anyone to try to seriously discuss Marx (or debate with a Marxist) with "Marx is stupid and anyone who believes him is an idiot. You have to defend yourself because you're the one who believes in communism." It just doesn't hold up.

Re: A Note on Forum Etiquette

Sieben — Wed, 12 May 2010 22:09:08 GMT

I am personally guilty of flaming (in between what I hope are sound arguments) some of the more frustrating people here on the mises.org forums. For that, there is no defense beyond claiming the catharthic value of name-calling.

However, I do maintain that there are more offensive things than name calling. Endorsing the senseless genocide of East Timor or excluding brown people from moral equivalency with Americans out of xenophobia is enough to set one on fire, more than any name calling ever could.

It is not merely the things we say, but how we say them. There is no punishment great enough for desiring the extermination of a group of people just for its own sake.

Re: A Note on Forum Etiquette

Jonathan M. F. Catalán — Wed, 12 May 2010 21:41:36 GMT

Is the OP aimed at anybody in particular?

Yes, and you are one of them. We're not interested in strangling discussion through overburdening moderation, but I am just making a note of what we expect in terms of etiquette. By the way, this is also aimed at those who have insulted you out of frustration - that is not acceptable, either.

Re: A Note on Forum Etiquette

hayekianxyz — Wed, 12 May 2010 21:15:00 GMT

Is the OP aimed at anybody in particular?

Re: A Note on Forum Etiquette

Esuric — Wed, 12 May 2010 21:06:26 GMT

Calling religious individuals morons is not acceptable. If you come across posts like those please report them.

Okay, thank you.

Re: A Note on Forum Etiquette

Jonathan M. F. Catalán — Wed, 12 May 2010 20:40:57 GMT

Calling religious individuals morons is not acceptable. If you come across posts like those please report them.

Re: A Note on Forum Etiquette

Esuric — Wed, 12 May 2010 20:33:20 GMT

So, to be clear:

The two are not reconcilable and to be a religious libertarian is to be a moronic non-moron.

I advocate we disassociate ourselves from the lunacy that is religion in order to solidify our intellectual position.

Religion is total balls to the wall lunacy that has no basis in reality.

Are these comments acceptable (no argumentation; just flat out assertions)?

I think not. Bert demands evidence when such a thing is impossible. No amount of evidence can disprove unicorns.

What does this have to do with forum etiquette? Why the knee-jerk reaction? There are 3 other threads where this very issue is being "discussed."

Re: A Note on Forum Etiquette

Nielsio — Wed, 12 May 2010 20:08:04 GMT

Andrew Cain wrote:

Wrong topic to bring this up.

I think not. Bert demands evidence when such a thing is impossible. No amount of evidence can disprove unicorns.

And then he is looking for moderation based on such an impossibility.

Re: A Note on Forum Etiquette

Andrew Cain — Wed, 12 May 2010 20:03:19 GMT

Wrong topic to bring this up.

Re: A Note on Forum Etiquette

Nielsio — Wed, 12 May 2010 19:56:52 GMT

Bert wrote:

Does the condemnation of religion without sufficient evidence (or any evidence or knowledge at all) fall under this? By far I find that the most annoying.

Religion is un-scientific; it is not in the field of knowledge. And you demand evidence in order to criticize it?

There is no evidence required to condemn action in the name of Zeus or Itzli, the Aztec god of sacrifice and stone knives.

The evidence is the complete lack of transferable knowledge.

Re: A Note on Forum Etiquette

Daniel James Sanchez — Wed, 12 May 2010 18:51:42 GMT

We absolutely do not moderate over alleged faulty argumentation; that is the path to ideological censorship.

Snide remarks only intended to inflame however are unacceptable.

Re: A Note on Forum Etiquette

Bert — Wed, 12 May 2010 18:43:49 GMT

Does the condemnation of religion without sufficient evidence (or any evidence or knowledge at all) fall under this? By far I find that the most annoying.

Re: A Note on Forum Etiquette

DanielMuff — Wed, 12 May 2010 18:31:24 GMT

Also, report any trollish post using the report function.