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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="http://mises.org/community/utility/FeedStylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Economics Questions</title><link>http://mises.org/community/forums/5.aspx</link><description /><dc:language>en</dc:language><generator>CommunityServer 2008.5 SP2 (Build: 40407.4157)</generator><item><title>Re: 'Entitlements'</title><link>http://mises.org/community/forums/thread/494507.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2012 03:52:31 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">944abf2b-d1be-4bf2-990d-438cb0e377e9:494507</guid><dc:creator>Whiskey Balls</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://mises.org/community/forums/thread/494507.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://mises.org/community/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=5&amp;PostID=494507</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;
	well lets agree to disagree even though my only income is welfare.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: 'Entitlements'</title><link>http://mises.org/community/forums/thread/494504.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2012 03:44:58 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">944abf2b-d1be-4bf2-990d-438cb0e377e9:494504</guid><dc:creator>Kelvin Silva</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://mises.org/community/forums/thread/494504.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://mises.org/community/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=5&amp;PostID=494504</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;
	If welfare is your only source of income then it isnt taxable.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: 'Entitlements'</title><link>http://mises.org/community/forums/thread/494501.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2012 03:41:33 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">944abf2b-d1be-4bf2-990d-438cb0e377e9:494501</guid><dc:creator>Whiskey Balls</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://mises.org/community/forums/thread/494501.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://mises.org/community/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=5&amp;PostID=494501</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;
	welfare checks (unemployment) is taxable.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: 'Entitlements'</title><link>http://mises.org/community/forums/thread/494498.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2012 03:38:07 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">944abf2b-d1be-4bf2-990d-438cb0e377e9:494498</guid><dc:creator>Kelvin Silva</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://mises.org/community/forums/thread/494498.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://mises.org/community/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=5&amp;PostID=494498</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;
	Here is a link that explains it well:&lt;/p&gt;
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	http://bit.ly/T4CMBY&lt;/p&gt;
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	Welfare recipients do not pay income tax, welfare checks are not taxable.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: 'Entitlements'</title><link>http://mises.org/community/forums/thread/494497.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2012 03:36:56 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">944abf2b-d1be-4bf2-990d-438cb0e377e9:494497</guid><dc:creator>Anenome</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://mises.org/community/forums/thread/494497.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://mises.org/community/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=5&amp;PostID=494497</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;
	&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="http://mises.org/community/Themes/mises2008/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;greenbabe:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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	I&amp;#39;m saying that it&amp;#39;s not entitled to want government services for what you PAID for.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
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	&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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	First to all, some people are net tax consumers and net tax payers. So, some people are receiving much more than what they pay in. These people are getting much more than they paid for and it is wrong.&lt;/p&gt;
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	If everyone received in services exactly what they paid in, then the whole thing would be ridiculous and people would be better off keeping their money in the first place.&lt;/p&gt;
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	But beyond that, it&amp;#39;s immoral to force people to pay into a system that they wouldn&amp;#39;t freely choose if not being forced. That always happens before you can worry about getting in services what you were forced to pay for. thus if you righted that wrong, your question would be irrelevant.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: 'Entitlements'</title><link>http://mises.org/community/forums/thread/494496.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2012 03:35:58 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">944abf2b-d1be-4bf2-990d-438cb0e377e9:494496</guid><dc:creator>gotlucky</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://mises.org/community/forums/thread/494496.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://mises.org/community/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=5&amp;PostID=494496</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;
	Administrative fees, more commonly known as protection money.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: 'Entitlements'</title><link>http://mises.org/community/forums/thread/494494.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2012 03:34:48 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">944abf2b-d1be-4bf2-990d-438cb0e377e9:494494</guid><dc:creator>Wheylous</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://mises.org/community/forums/thread/494494.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://mises.org/community/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=5&amp;PostID=494494</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
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		&lt;span style="font-family:&amp;#39;Trebuchet MS&amp;#39;;font-size:13px;"&gt;&amp;quot;Handouts&amp;quot; aren&amp;#39;t bad either, because they still pay for it. The word doesn&amp;#39;t matter.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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	&lt;span style="font-family:&amp;#39;Trebuchet MS&amp;#39;;font-size:13px;"&gt;Nah, they don&amp;#39;t. If every person paid for his own handouts, then why have handouts at all?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: 'Entitlements'</title><link>http://mises.org/community/forums/thread/494493.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2012 03:34:21 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">944abf2b-d1be-4bf2-990d-438cb0e377e9:494493</guid><dc:creator>Wheylous</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://mises.org/community/forums/thread/494493.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://mises.org/community/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=5&amp;PostID=494493</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;
	My post was incorrect - it is an entitlement. Just as when I pay for a house I have an entitlement to the house, because the title to it is mine.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: 'Entitlements'</title><link>http://mises.org/community/forums/thread/494492.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2012 03:34:14 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">944abf2b-d1be-4bf2-990d-438cb0e377e9:494492</guid><dc:creator>greenbabe</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://mises.org/community/forums/thread/494492.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://mises.org/community/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=5&amp;PostID=494492</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;
	&amp;quot;Handouts&amp;quot; aren&amp;#39;t bad either, because they still pay for it. The word doesn&amp;#39;t matter.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: 'Entitlements'</title><link>http://mises.org/community/forums/thread/494491.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2012 03:32:50 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">944abf2b-d1be-4bf2-990d-438cb0e377e9:494491</guid><dc:creator>Michael J Green</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://mises.org/community/forums/thread/494491.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://mises.org/community/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=5&amp;PostID=494491</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;
	Well, what is it then, if not an entitlement?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: 'Entitlements'</title><link>http://mises.org/community/forums/thread/494489.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2012 03:29:36 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">944abf2b-d1be-4bf2-990d-438cb0e377e9:494489</guid><dc:creator>gotlucky</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://mises.org/community/forums/thread/494489.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://mises.org/community/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=5&amp;PostID=494489</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;
	I admit the other, but not this or that.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: 'Entitlements'</title><link>http://mises.org/community/forums/thread/494488.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2012 03:29:01 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">944abf2b-d1be-4bf2-990d-438cb0e377e9:494488</guid><dc:creator>greenbabe</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://mises.org/community/forums/thread/494488.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://mises.org/community/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=5&amp;PostID=494488</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;
	So you guys admit it. It&amp;#39;s not an entitlement if you pay into it.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: 'Entitlements'</title><link>http://mises.org/community/forums/thread/494486.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2012 03:28:03 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">944abf2b-d1be-4bf2-990d-438cb0e377e9:494486</guid><dc:creator>Kelvin Silva</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://mises.org/community/forums/thread/494486.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://mises.org/community/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=5&amp;PostID=494486</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;
	Troll, what if i payed for part of the service, you use the service and pay for it as well. B&lt;/p&gt;
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	But i do not want to pay, and donot use that service. You use that service. Therefore in part, you are using part of my money.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: 'Entitlements'</title><link>http://mises.org/community/forums/thread/494485.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2012 03:27:54 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">944abf2b-d1be-4bf2-990d-438cb0e377e9:494485</guid><dc:creator>Michael J Green</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://mises.org/community/forums/thread/494485.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://mises.org/community/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=5&amp;PostID=494485</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;
	Yes... that&amp;#39;s why people call them entitlements... they&amp;#39;re entitlements because they pay for it... hence they&amp;#39;re entitled to the benefits...&lt;/p&gt;
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	Perhaps you&amp;#39;re not aware, but entitlement is not the slur. Hand-out is the slur. Entitlement is the positive spin on &amp;#39;social&amp;#39; programs.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: 'Entitlements'</title><link>http://mises.org/community/forums/thread/494484.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2012 03:26:31 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">944abf2b-d1be-4bf2-990d-438cb0e377e9:494484</guid><dc:creator>Wheylous</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://mises.org/community/forums/thread/494484.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://mises.org/community/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=5&amp;PostID=494484</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;
	Actually, scratch that - it&amp;#39;s the perfect definition of entitlement - you have a title to it.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>