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Re: What if Rand Paul becomes a monarch?

Anenome — Thu, 22 Nov 2012 00:24:59 GMT

fountainhead:

This thread reminded me of what one of my history professors told us in 2004. The poor guy was like 90 years old and sometimes we weren't sure if he was all there, but my god, in hindsight, some of what he told us was spot on. He said how the U.S. is less like a republic and now more like a constitutional monarchy. Back then, with everyone railing against Bush and the "imperial presidency," I didn't quite get it. But when Obama showed up and people seemed willing to give up every freedom they had for his royal highness, I got the point. During the 2008 Obama campaign, I even told a friend, "It's almost as if Americans want a fucking KING again." He replied, "Well, yes. We NEED that!" /palm to the face

That's brilliant, that's exactly what's occurring. As the constitutional protections and limits erode, now almost entirely gone, that's what we'll be left with. And that will lead to the destabilization of the republic long-term.

Re: What if Rand Paul becomes a monarch?

fountainhead — Wed, 21 Nov 2012 23:53:01 GMT

This thread reminded me of what one of my history professors told us in 2004. The poor guy was like 90 years old and sometimes we weren't sure if he was all there, but my god, in hindsight, some of what he told us was spot on. He said how the U.S. is less like a republic and now more like a constitutional monarchy. Back then, with everyone railing against Bush and the "imperial presidency," I didn't quite get it. But when Obama showed up and people seemed willing to give up every freedom they had for his royal highness, I got the point. During the 2008 Obama campaign, I even told a friend, "It's almost as if Americans want a fucking KING again." He replied, "Well, yes. We NEED that!" /palm to the face

The prof. also said, relatively early on in the Afghanistan and Iraq wars, that the age of the temporary "citizen-soldier" is ending and a new age of professional soldiers and mercenaries is beginning, because wars will go on and on longer than a citizen-soldier could handle. Enter the private security companies, like the knights of old!

Re: What if Rand Paul becomes a monarch?

Aristippus — Wed, 21 Nov 2012 23:26:04 GMT

You forgot the House of Stuart. Also, the House of Tudor claimed parts of the USA.

So you should install the current Duke of Bavaria as King.

Re: What if Rand Paul becomes a monarch?

Michelangelo — Wed, 21 Nov 2012 16:14:04 GMT

On a sidenote, which royal families have at one time controlled the present day USA?

Off the top of my head I can think of the southwest has been controlled by the Bourbons and Hapsburg respectively via New Spain/Mexico, Florida, and Puerto Rico. The Romanov in Alaska and other portions of the northwest. The House of Hanover that owned the original colonies. And the Hawaiin royal house in Hawaii.

We should invite one of the Romanovs to be our Emperor!

Re: What if Rand Paul becomes a monarch?

MadMiser — Wed, 21 Nov 2012 15:26:54 GMT

A Windsor monarchy! Surely you Americans didn't think you could escape the majesty of the British crown forever, did you?

Re: What if Rand Paul becomes a monarch?

Consumariat — Wed, 21 Nov 2012 14:48:33 GMT

I agree with No2Statism. American will definitely become a Monarchy.

Re: What if Rand Paul becomes a monarch?

No2statism — Wed, 21 Nov 2012 13:36:27 GMT

Well, if America is to be preserved then Rand Paul may have to be monarch. I hope the agents of the U.S. govt aren't watching this thread.

Put my reasons together better than John Ess did if you want your mind intrigued for the future.

Re: What if Rand Paul becomes a monarch?

John Ess — Wed, 21 Nov 2012 13:08:54 GMT

to sum up:

1) A friend said so.

2) Rand wants to smoke weed.

Good argument.

Re: What if Rand Paul becomes a monarch?

No2statism — Wed, 21 Nov 2012 11:57:16 GMT

Well, what if a constitutional monarchy is pragmatic and is the only way towards reducing the State?

I have a few reasons why I think Rand will be a monarch:

a friend on Facebook said she feared a Paul dynasty;

Rand quotes Lincoln and Madison;

he's a Constitutional Converative (rather than a Constitutional Jeffersonian small 'r' republican) so he must be more of a nationalist than the one who quotes Jefferson, Thomas Woods, and Rothbard.

Rand is a Conservative, he loves trying to mix liberty with order, he hates equality for the reasons I said.

He's going to want too much pot... who can't imagine Rand Paul toking a bong? His eyes are always red, he's short (weed stunts growth), he's fat (weed causes people to crave sweets) plus he got someone to smoke pot and worship the aqua buddha statue in his private college days. If he becomes monarch, then he could smoke weed without worrying about breaking the law.

Re: What if Rand Paul becomes a monarch?

shackleford — Wed, 21 Nov 2012 03:28:36 GMT

National Acrobat:

That's about as good as it gets.

Re: What if Rand Paul becomes a monarch?

SkepticalMetal — Wed, 21 Nov 2012 03:11:30 GMT

I'm having quite a hard time envisioning Rand Paul in a King's robes...same with Governor Rick Scott of Florida dressed like a Prince...

Now Obama...that's a different story.

Re: What if Rand Paul becomes a monarch?

Waltonruler5 — Wed, 21 Nov 2012 03:00:11 GMT

Maybe I'm being too harsh, or I'm taking this too seriously but I feel this is appropriate:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQCU36pkH7c

Re: What if Rand Paul becomes a monarch?

National Acrobat — Wed, 21 Nov 2012 02:46:40 GMT

Re: What if Rand Paul becomes a monarch?

John Ess — Wed, 21 Nov 2012 02:25:06 GMT

"Thank god I'm not the only one who thinks so."

Each sentence is like traveling further and further away from anything like a coherent reality.

Re: What if Rand Paul becomes a monarch?

Groucho — Tue, 20 Nov 2012 23:45:22 GMT

Thank god I'm not the only one who thinks so.