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Bert — Mon, 03 Dec 2012 19:43:09 GMT

Since my article has recieved no love: Intellectual Property: Grasping at Thoughts

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SkepticalMetal — Mon, 03 Dec 2012 18:49:40 GMT

@ Whiskey Balls

Hey, that's great. Be sure to post the rest of it.

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Clayton — Mon, 03 Dec 2012 18:32:21 GMT

Another royal has been spawned.

Clayton -

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Whiskey Balls — Mon, 03 Dec 2012 09:21:34 GMT

Talking shit to roseanne barr's long time boyfriend on twitter. He's a socialist.

I just searched for socialism and replied to a couple socialists and he just so happened to pop up and i unknowly replied without knowing who he was.

Below is the discussion thus far (what did i miss? what would you of done better?)

Johnny 'the socialist': Think Socialism's a dirty word? OK, call it Economic democracy. Check out this American hero. (he links a story about a grocery store owner that gave his business away to all his employees when he retired. He gave shares basically based on time with company)

me: how is that socialism? That was a private individual making his own decision with his property. 1 of many fine capitalists

johnny: His gift converted his business to 1 where the means of production's owned by the workers. That's the definition of socialism.

me: umm no. An individual owner made a decision of his own private property to give it to his employees. Capitalism defined. socialism would require it to be owned by everyone not 400 ppl. This is no different than stock holders.

johnny: Yes, the capitalist gave his business to the workers who now share the business. A capitalist enterprise became a socialist 1.

johnny: Stockholders aren't workers. They're investors. GHW Bush made the distinction, clearly.

me: he gave more to ppl that worked there longer. not equal ownership. All he did was pass his business on to the largest holder

me: ya so there r 400 new investors that work there too. With unequal ownership like any traded company

johnny: Socialism has provisions 4 all that. It doesn't mean every person in a country owns, for example: the shoe store, equally, .

me: would love to here how you can give someone more without creating a ruling class. How does one determine who is most deserving

johnny: Some rich guy who sits on his ass on Wall St. & owns shares of a company in Alabama is not comparable to this model.

me: well some rich guy who sits on his ass will buy these shares one day. And the 400 ppl will be happy to take his money

johnny: How is a system that rewards U by giving you way more than most people - going to work for most people?

me: the best will get the most by selling goods 2 the most ppl. Ppl give money because the goods are worth to them than the money. therefore anytime someone buys something they are wealthier than before

johnny: So if I buy some Pepsi and Skittles and cigarettes.....I'm wealthier? By what standard?

me: y else would you buy it? you bought it so you decided those good meets your ends best. You gave up money that was worth less.

johnny: Cigarettes kill people. Unhealthy foods cause diabetes and heart problems, but people buy it. Are they wealthier?

me: so do cars. are you wealthier if you own a car? you think cigarettes are terrible doesnt mean someone else doesnt value them

johnny: So why don't we sell marijuana? Why is prostitution illegal? Should 'markets' just control & express all our wants & needs?

me: because gov grows with each law. they want everything illegal it is the nature of socialism. yes markets should control.

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he then says he is going to bed and we will continue tomorrow.

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TheFinest — Mon, 03 Dec 2012 05:32:42 GMT

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Anenome — Mon, 03 Dec 2012 00:09:07 GMT

Few Places to Hide as Taxes Trend Higher Worldwide

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Anenome — Mon, 03 Dec 2012 00:03:52 GMT

Not a Nader fan, but I like seeing the left hit Obama for being a war crim.

Nader: War Criminal Obama Worse Than Bush

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SkepticalMetal — Sun, 02 Dec 2012 04:29:04 GMT

I thought Surf's Up was their best ever. Deep stuff.

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And isn't Pet Sounds considered to be one of their best ever? lol.

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Anenome — Sun, 02 Dec 2012 04:27:17 GMT

Guess that explains their Pet Sounds album, that was horrible.

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SkepticalMetal — Sun, 02 Dec 2012 00:16:22 GMT

The Beach Boys have had quite a dark history.

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Groucho — Sun, 02 Dec 2012 00:08:17 GMT

Brian Wilson was on a pretty far out trip.

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SkepticalMetal — Sat, 01 Dec 2012 23:52:57 GMT

Please don't misunderstand me when I say that, I wasn't implying that I'd go that path in some low-life attempt at making my writing material better through alcohol. Really what I was saying (or attempting to say) was that many artists (especially rock 'n' rollers of the sixties and seventies) claimed to have written their best stuff while either high or drunk. With most people who try that, I think that 9 times out of 10 it just comes out as meaningless dribble, and they end up wrecking their lives in the process.

One interesting case where it did work out was when Brian Wilson of The Beach Boys wrote the song "California Girls" while going through a scary LSD trip.

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Anenome — Sat, 01 Dec 2012 23:48:06 GMT

SkepticalMetal:

"and perhaps help the user gain new perspectives or insights."

I guess this is why a lot of writers say they write their best stuff while drunk or on pot.

It's a myth, and a very bad habit that has led to the downfall of a lot of writers. I'd say it's akin to potheads thinking their thoughts are so amazing while high. Jokes are funnier, girls are cuter, when you're buzzed, etc.

Better off learning how to get into a creative mood without using a chemical to bring down your inhibitions. Better than becoming an alcoholic.

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SkepticalMetal — Sat, 01 Dec 2012 22:39:10 GMT

"and perhaps help the user gain new perspectives or insights."

I guess this is why a lot of writers say they write their best stuff while drunk or on pot.

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fegeldolfy — Sat, 01 Dec 2012 22:10:23 GMT

"I want a cabinet post for Krugman -- or at least Chairman of the Council of Economic Advisers (unless either would mean he'd be silenced in the press). We need his sensibilities at the highest levels of government. (Robert Reich and Joseph Stiglitz also are experts who understand the situation we're in and write sensibly about it.)"

You can't make this stuff up.

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