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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="http://mises.org/community/utility/FeedStylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Newbies</title><link>http://mises.org/community/forums/222.aspx</link><description>If you are just dropping in or starting out, post here</description><dc:language>en</dc:language><generator>CommunityServer 2008.5 SP2 (Build: 40407.4157)</generator><item><title>Re: First libertarian book</title><link>http://mises.org/community/forums/thread/485260.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2012 20:44:59 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">944abf2b-d1be-4bf2-990d-438cb0e377e9:485260</guid><dc:creator>Pablo J. Gutierrez F. III</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://mises.org/community/forums/thread/485260.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://mises.org/community/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=222&amp;PostID=485260</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;
	&amp;quot;The Fatal Conceit - The Errors of Socialism&amp;quot; by F.A. Hayek&lt;/p&gt;
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	&amp;quot;Capitalism and Freedom&amp;quot; by Milton Friedman&lt;/p&gt;
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	&amp;quot;Economics in One Lesson&amp;quot; by Henry Hazlitt&lt;/p&gt;
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	Those are some good reads.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: First libertarian book</title><link>http://mises.org/community/forums/thread/485244.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2012 17:21:39 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">944abf2b-d1be-4bf2-990d-438cb0e377e9:485244</guid><dc:creator>Kelvin Silva</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://mises.org/community/forums/thread/485244.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://mises.org/community/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=222&amp;PostID=485244</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;
	John james- Liberty defined is more for a person that is in the middle of choosing between statism or not, or who wants to learn more of ron paul&amp;#39;s principles.&lt;/p&gt;
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	&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: First libertarian book</title><link>http://mises.org/community/forums/thread/485243.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2012 17:17:27 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">944abf2b-d1be-4bf2-990d-438cb0e377e9:485243</guid><dc:creator>Kelvin Silva</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://mises.org/community/forums/thread/485243.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://mises.org/community/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=222&amp;PostID=485243</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;
	For a New Liberty.&lt;/p&gt;
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	Its around 400 pages long. Its a pretty good read, rothbard is a good write.&lt;/p&gt;
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	This is a book that i would reccommend since its like many other books combined into 1.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: First libertarian book</title><link>http://mises.org/community/forums/thread/485225.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2012 15:13:15 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">944abf2b-d1be-4bf2-990d-438cb0e377e9:485225</guid><dc:creator>Nielsio</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://mises.org/community/forums/thread/485225.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://mises.org/community/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=222&amp;PostID=485225</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;
	&lt;a href="http://www.vforvoluntary.com/books/economics/" target="_blank"&gt;http://www.vforvoluntary.com/books/economics/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: First libertarian book</title><link>http://mises.org/community/forums/thread/485223.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2012 15:09:56 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">944abf2b-d1be-4bf2-990d-438cb0e377e9:485223</guid><dc:creator>agisthos</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://mises.org/community/forums/thread/485223.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://mises.org/community/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=222&amp;PostID=485223</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;
	If someone is already anti statist and capitalist, then Hoppe&amp;#39;s A Theory of Socialism and Capitalism or Democracy The God That Failes are my picks.&lt;/p&gt;
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	&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: First libertarian book</title><link>http://mises.org/community/forums/thread/485222.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2012 15:01:21 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">944abf2b-d1be-4bf2-990d-438cb0e377e9:485222</guid><dc:creator>agisthos</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://mises.org/community/forums/thread/485222.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://mises.org/community/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=222&amp;PostID=485222</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;
	In my opinion the best&amp;nbsp;place to start someone is John Stossel&amp;#39;s books &amp;#39;Give me a break&amp;#39; and &amp;#39;Pass the Shoval&amp;#39;.&lt;/p&gt;
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	The reason is this - the average person is&amp;nbsp;very indoctrinated into thinking the State is their friend and that government protects them from the evil capitalist businessman. Stossels books are great, because they are one example after another of how government rules and regulations are actually for the benefit of big business and special interests, not for the consumer.&lt;br /&gt;
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	Stossel was a left liberal and through constant exposure to consumer investigative journalism, he gradually began to realise government itself was the cause of societies ills.&lt;/p&gt;
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	This is the&amp;nbsp;first step to opening someone to libertarianism&amp;nbsp;and freedom, having them understand the State not the protector but the exploiter on&amp;nbsp;behalf of those wielding the power. Then average joe be ready for &amp;#39;For A New Liberty&amp;#39; or some other intro book on libertarianism.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: First libertarian book</title><link>http://mises.org/community/forums/thread/475066.aspx</link><pubDate>Sun, 17 Jun 2012 22:36:29 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">944abf2b-d1be-4bf2-990d-438cb0e377e9:475066</guid><dc:creator>John James</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://mises.org/community/forums/thread/475066.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://mises.org/community/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=222&amp;PostID=475066</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;
	&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="http://mises.org/community/Themes/mises2008/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Wheylous:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;I haven&amp;#39;t read the &lt;i&gt;Ethics of Liberty&lt;/i&gt;, only excerpts, but it appears to be quite comprehensive.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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	Yeah &lt;em&gt;&lt;a href="http://wiki.mises.org/wiki/The_Ethics_of_Liberty"&gt;EoL&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt; is generally considered the more advanced sequal to &lt;em&gt;&lt;a href="http://wiki.mises.org/wiki/For_a_New_Liberty"&gt;FaNL&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;.&amp;nbsp; From what he described it seems like the latter is perfect.&amp;nbsp; However if it&amp;#39;s too long, I think &lt;a href="http://wiki.mises.org/wiki/Beyond_Democracy"&gt;&lt;em&gt;Beyond Democracy&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://wiki.mises.org/wiki/Anatomy_of_the_State"&gt;&lt;em&gt;Anatomy of the State&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt; may work well.&lt;/p&gt;
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	&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;I think visiting the Mises forums is quite good, too :)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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	&lt;img alt="wink" height="20" src="http://direct.mises.org/ckeditor/plugins/smiley/images/wink_smile.gif" title="wink" width="20" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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	&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: First libertarian book</title><link>http://mises.org/community/forums/thread/475047.aspx</link><pubDate>Sun, 17 Jun 2012 17:58:02 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">944abf2b-d1be-4bf2-990d-438cb0e377e9:475047</guid><dc:creator>socialdtk</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://mises.org/community/forums/thread/475047.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://mises.org/community/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=222&amp;PostID=475047</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;
	For a New Liberty: The Libertarian Manifesto was the book that showed me that there a was another option beyond the typical democrat republican paradigm.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: First libertarian book</title><link>http://mises.org/community/forums/thread/475042.aspx</link><pubDate>Sun, 17 Jun 2012 15:50:09 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">944abf2b-d1be-4bf2-990d-438cb0e377e9:475042</guid><dc:creator>Vladimir Igor N. Ghinculov</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://mises.org/community/forums/thread/475042.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://mises.org/community/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=222&amp;PostID=475042</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;
	@John James&lt;/p&gt;
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	Yeah, I know it&amp;#39;s quite long but it was my first Rothbard book, the one that &lt;em&gt;made &lt;/em&gt;me an AnCap. If I was sure about this choice I wouldn&amp;#39;t have asked you, guys :)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: First libertarian book</title><link>http://mises.org/community/forums/thread/475038.aspx</link><pubDate>Sun, 17 Jun 2012 15:09:33 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">944abf2b-d1be-4bf2-990d-438cb0e377e9:475038</guid><dc:creator>Wheylous</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://mises.org/community/forums/thread/475038.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://mises.org/community/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=222&amp;PostID=475038</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;
	I haven&amp;#39;t read the &lt;i&gt;Ethics of Liberty&lt;/i&gt;, only excerpts, but it appears to be quite comprehensive.&lt;/p&gt;
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	I think visiting the Mises forums is quite good, too :)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: First libertarian book</title><link>http://mises.org/community/forums/thread/475034.aspx</link><pubDate>Sun, 17 Jun 2012 14:06:40 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">944abf2b-d1be-4bf2-990d-438cb0e377e9:475034</guid><dc:creator>MMMark</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://mises.org/community/forums/thread/475034.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://mises.org/community/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=222&amp;PostID=475034</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Sun. 12/06/17 10:06 EDT&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://mises.org/Community/forums/p/29633/475033.aspx#475033" target="_blank" title="http://mises.org/Community/forums/p/29633/475033.aspx#475033"&gt;.&lt;/a&gt;post #171&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://mises.org/Community/forums/p/29641/475016.aspx#475016" target="_blank" title="http://mises.org/Community/forums/p/29641/475016.aspx#475016"&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="http://mises.org/community/Themes/mises2008/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Vladimir Igor N. Ghinculov:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/a&gt;... I&amp;#39;d like a book that will put what we stand for in clear words.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://mises.org/books/defending.pdf" target="_blank" title="http://mises.org/books/defending.pdf"&gt;Defending The Undefendable&lt;/a&gt;, by Walter Block, is a short, entertaining, easy-to-read book that applies libertarian principles to some of society&amp;#39;s most &amp;quot;unsavory&amp;quot; characters, with surprising results.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: First libertarian book</title><link>http://mises.org/community/forums/thread/475027.aspx</link><pubDate>Sun, 17 Jun 2012 12:36:58 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">944abf2b-d1be-4bf2-990d-438cb0e377e9:475027</guid><dc:creator>John James</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://mises.org/community/forums/thread/475027.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://mises.org/community/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=222&amp;PostID=475027</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;
	&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="http://mises.org/community/Themes/mises2008/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Vladimir Igor N. Ghinculov:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;As I said she&amp;#39;s libertarian in her almost every stance (anti-statist, pro-choice, capitalist, climate change skeptic) but didn&amp;#39;t form yet a philosophy and I&amp;#39;d like a book that will put what we stand for in clear words.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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	Oh.&amp;nbsp; Well in that case, I&amp;#39;d say you&amp;#39;re on the money with &lt;a href="http://wiki.mises.org/wiki/For_a_New_Liberty"&gt;&lt;em&gt;For a New Liberty&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;...&lt;/p&gt;
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	For one thing I didn&amp;#39;t realize you were looking for an explication of philosophy, and two, I didn&amp;#39;t 330 pages was short enough.&amp;nbsp; I would also recommend &lt;a href="http://wiki.mises.org/wiki/Liberty_Defined"&gt;&lt;em&gt;Liberty Defined&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;
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	Another place you might check is the &lt;a href="http://mises.org/Community/forums/p/25436/429574.aspx#429574"&gt;reading lists&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;
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	&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: First libertarian book</title><link>http://mises.org/community/forums/thread/475022.aspx</link><pubDate>Sun, 17 Jun 2012 11:05:36 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">944abf2b-d1be-4bf2-990d-438cb0e377e9:475022</guid><dc:creator>Aristippus</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://mises.org/community/forums/thread/475022.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://mises.org/community/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=222&amp;PostID=475022</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;
	I recommend:&lt;/p&gt;
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	FA Hayek, &lt;em&gt;The Fatal Conceit&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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	Hans-Hermann Hoppe, &lt;em&gt;A Theory of Socialism and Capitalism&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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	Anthony de Jasay, &lt;em&gt;Against Politics&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: First libertarian book</title><link>http://mises.org/community/forums/thread/475021.aspx</link><pubDate>Sun, 17 Jun 2012 11:04:01 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">944abf2b-d1be-4bf2-990d-438cb0e377e9:475021</guid><dc:creator>Vladimir Igor N. Ghinculov</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://mises.org/community/forums/thread/475021.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://mises.org/community/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=222&amp;PostID=475021</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;
	Personally, I was thinking about Rothbard&amp;#39;s &lt;em&gt;For a New Liberty &lt;/em&gt;but I&amp;#39;m waiting for other suggestions.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: First libertarian book</title><link>http://mises.org/community/forums/thread/475019.aspx</link><pubDate>Sun, 17 Jun 2012 10:21:48 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">944abf2b-d1be-4bf2-990d-438cb0e377e9:475019</guid><dc:creator>Wheylous</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://mises.org/community/forums/thread/475019.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://mises.org/community/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=222&amp;PostID=475019</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;
	Woops. Sorry. I had the unfortunate experience of being convinced of libertarianism mostly by myself, and hence have no &amp;quot;eye-opening books&amp;quot; that helped me. Although I must say that&amp;nbsp;&lt;em&gt;Chaos Theory&lt;/em&gt; by Murphy definitely helped to push me from minarchy to AnCap.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>