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Re: Help! People on other forums raging everywhere!

HabbaBabba — Wed, 02 Jan 2013 20:32:35 GMT

Not really. To whom the appeal for more allowance of personal security would differ is all. I don't stop trying to talk to and convince people just because they own their own property.

Re: Help! People on other forums raging everywhere!

thetabularasa — Wed, 02 Jan 2013 18:39:10 GMT

Wibee:

You are all fighting the wrong battle. You are all pro-gun control. You would be idiots not to be. You are anti-government. Don't attack gun control. Criticize the government. If man bans guns on his private property, you would all jump to his defense. You would defend gun ownership rules in a HOA.

Same with airport scanners. You would be pro scanners if Southwest airlines implemented the security system, but because the TSA does it, it is bad.

What I mean by being pro, I mean respecting property rights. The answer to every question is property rights.

Good point.

Re: Help! People on other forums raging everywhere!

Wibee — Sun, 30 Dec 2012 01:47:24 GMT

You are all fighting the wrong battle. You are all pro-gun control. You would be idiots not to be. You are anti-government. Don't attack gun control. Criticize the government. If man bans guns on his private property, you would all jump to his defense. You would defend gun ownership rules in a HOA.

Same with airport scanners. You would be pro scanners if Southwest airlines implemented the security system, but because the TSA does it, it is bad.

What I mean by being pro, I mean respecting property rights. The answer to every question is property rights.

Re: Help! People on other forums raging everywhere!

Jon Irenicus — Wed, 19 Dec 2012 21:31:16 GMT

Is that Piers Morgan fellow always so... well, rude, stupid and abrassive? Also, lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oms0lqQQoGY

Re: Help! People on other forums raging everywhere!

SkepticalMetal — Wed, 19 Dec 2012 21:25:44 GMT

@ Samuel Smith

When you talked in your shut down about the guy basically wanting to have himself in charge, I was immediately reminded of something Mises said that I read in Marxism Unmasked:

"...the worst thing that can happen to a socialist is to have his country ruled by socialists who are not his friends."

Re: Help! People on other forums raging everywhere!

MMMark — Wed, 19 Dec 2012 06:45:03 GMT

Wed. 12/12/19 01:46 EST
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Piers Morgan debating GOA Larry Pratt.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FVQgLkbLjQ
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Re: Help! People on other forums raging everywhere!

MMMark — Tue, 18 Dec 2012 02:52:12 GMT

Mon. 12/12/17 21:52 EST
.post #239

SkepticalMetal:
HELP PLZ

Gun ownership around the world

and

Save the Children:

When I talk with people who want more gun control and claim that they themselves would never own a firearm, I sometimes ask if they would be willing to put a sign in their front yard saying “This home is a gun-free zone.” Generally, I get silence and a stunned look; occasionally, I get an outright refusal. No one wants to put such a sign in front of their home; they know intuitively that such a sign marks them as an easy target for thieves, rapists, or murderers.

Re: Help! People on other forums raging everywhere!

Torsten — Mon, 17 Dec 2012 15:55:45 GMT

And now he is cornered. Why? Because the real reason we want to own weapons is to protect ourselves from an oppresive government. This is the number one reason. Historically, you have the proof (Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Kim Jong Il in North Korea). In fact, it is no argument that the most numerous, villanous murders have been carried out by the hands of an armed government on its unarmed populace.

Careful on this one. It was easier to obtain Weapons under Hitler, then under the regime of the Weimar Republic and after the second world war. It's just that they of course disarmed any hostile populations. Which is what any occupational force does actually do including the Western Allies.

That's perhaps something to hammer about, that disarming population indicates hostility by government.

Re: Help! People on other forums raging everywhere!

SkepticalMetal — Mon, 17 Dec 2012 15:47:36 GMT

Samuel Smith,

That is beast.

Re: Help! People on other forums raging everywhere!

Samuel Smith — Mon, 17 Dec 2012 15:30:46 GMT

I think I just did a pretty effective shut down of somebody's anti-capitalism rant.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4967673

Doubt he'll even read it, though.

Re: Help! People on other forums raging everywhere!

K.C. Farmer — Mon, 17 Dec 2012 14:41:12 GMT

If you want a boogey man, then try this.

The root cause of this evil is the expectation of a person getting something at the expense of another. All other issues are a mere symptom. The fact these folks are submitting their own heinous ideas only prove the point.

Re: Help! People on other forums raging everywhere!

fakename — Mon, 17 Dec 2012 03:39:09 GMT

Outrageous. See gov., this is why we can't do nice things.

In the future, when the welfare state is 10xs bigger, people will ask "why couldn't private charity help people in the past?" Most will think it was owing to the stinginess of human nature, but a few will know it was because of the unthinking dictates of the state.

Re: Help! People on other forums raging everywhere!

Bert — Mon, 17 Dec 2012 03:23:04 GMT

When I was involved with the Norfolk chapter of Food Not Bombs years back the city shut us down because we were feeding people healthy food on the streets, but we didn't have any "legitimate" documentation of what we did and apparently it was a health violation. Not on the food (we made sure everything was in safe keeping), but they had some logic that you just can't feed people on the streets, and it would be different if the voluntarily came into our homes to eat (what's the difference?). Bunch of bullshit.

Re: Help! People on other forums raging everywhere!

fakename — Mon, 17 Dec 2012 03:17:18 GMT

I might explore what laws keep people from helping the homeless etc. For instance, the laws against dumpster diving in SF apparently keeps a lot of apparently pretty good food out of the hands of volunteers or street-people.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_Not_Bombs#Involvement_in_Resistance_to_Restrictions_on_Food_Sharing

Re: Help! People on other forums raging everywhere!

xahrx — Sun, 16 Dec 2012 20:38:12 GMT

Knock yourself out.