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Re: Rand Paul turns out to be a neo-con

Prateek Sanjay — Sun, 03 Apr 2011 16:24:51 GMT

Genius.

Re: Rand Paul turns out to be a neo-con

Daniel James Sanchez — Sun, 03 Apr 2011 15:48:41 GMT

http://www.economicpolicyjournal.com/2011/04/rand-paul-brings-senate-to-standstill.html

Re: Rand Paul turns out to be a neo-con

CuriousGeorge — Sun, 03 Jan 2010 05:12:41 GMT

This blogger quoted this forum for her hit piece on rand paul.

http://genuinegopmom.blogspot.com/2009/12/flip-flopper-rand-paul-is-learning.html

Looks like she supports bill johnson.

Re: Rand Paul turns out to be a neo-con

Poptech — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 12:32:14 GMT

ama gi:
which has decimated your country with depleted-uranium

Please stop with the conspiracy theories,

Nuclear Genocide? Piercing through the depleted uranium myths (Reason)

Re: Rand Paul turns out to be a neo-con

Amadeus — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 07:14:18 GMT

Poptech:

ama gi:
There is a cause-and-effect relationship somewhere in there, I think....

Yes of course being locked up in Gitmo for killing innocent people makes you get out and kill more innocent people.

That's running under the assumption that everyone in Gitmo has committed an act of terrorism.

I like how you suggested the thought that maybe government might be lying to us is a conspiracy theory. Everyone here can list countless times our or any government has lied to maintain or gain power. So then why would you rule out the possibility that maybe they are lying to you? This of course also means that there is the possibility that they could be telling the truth. But you don't see us saying you're the conspiracy theorist for saying they are telling the truth.

Re: Rand Paul turns out to be a neo-con

ama gi — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 05:30:26 GMT

Poptech:
Yes of course being locked up in Gitmo for killing innocent people makes you get out and kill more innocent people.

Can you explain how an occupation army from the other side of the planet, which has decimated your country with depleted-uranium, are "innocent people"? Thanks.

Re: Rand Paul turns out to be a neo-con

Knight_of_BAAWA — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 03:04:13 GMT

And we'll take that as more of your trolling.

Re: Rand Paul turns out to be a neo-con

Poptech — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 03:03:47 GMT

I'll take that as you have nothing.

Re: Rand Paul turns out to be a neo-con

Knight_of_BAAWA — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 03:00:52 GMT

Poptech:
Ah yes more conspiracy theories. Now please prove your unsubstantiated allegations.

Yes, you should, given such things as MK-ULTRA.

Re: Rand Paul turns out to be a neo-con

nirgrahamUK — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 02:11:30 GMT

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7OvOf-T2Hc

for the comedy/terror angle

Re: Rand Paul turns out to be a neo-con

Qlubsoda — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 02:07:46 GMT

I'd argue that It's rather sophistic to ask us to falsify claims that the intelligence agencies of the united state's government are trustworthy. Consider that in order to prove they are trustworthy, we would have to have access files and data which are forbidden to view without a high security clearance and non-disclosure agreements (with a penalty of a treason charge probably). What we do know is that the agencies have secrets, we don't know what they are, and that the agencies have been caught doing unethical/possibly illegal things in the past. I think it's reasonable to infer from the circumstances that a government agency, free of possible oversight and public scrutiny, is going to be as bad as it wants.

If the iran contra affair or the attempted assassination of foreign leaders weren't made public, I'm sure you would've denounced those as "wild conspiracies" if we were to suggest they occurred.

Re: Rand Paul turns out to be a neo-con

Libertarian_for_Life — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 02:00:06 GMT

Poptech:

Ah yes more conspiracy theories. Now please prove your unsubstantiated allegations.

I am saying that I don't trust government to tell the world of all of their crimes, you believe what the government says because it says it.

You have to explain why we should trust that report, not the other way around.

Do you believe the government has no incentive to hide things?

Doesn't it seem logcial for the government to only tell the world about a few waterboardings, then maybe people would believe that more than if they would have told the world nothing?

Or perhaps we have a government that does what's best only for the people's interest and tells the truth?

Government has no incentive to tell the truth, except when they are caught in a lie that they can not escape.

Re: Rand Paul turns out to be a neo-con

Capital Pumper — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 01:57:58 GMT

Poptech:

Ah yes more conspiracy theories. Now please prove your unsubstantiated allegations.

To concede the point to you now would be to take the perpertrator's word on faith; a perpertrator that has a track record of intelligence failures and lying to congress.

Re: Rand Paul turns out to be a neo-con

Poptech — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 01:44:16 GMT

Ah yes more conspiracy theories. Now please prove your unsubstantiated allegations.

Re: Rand Paul turns out to be a neo-con

Knight_of_BAAWA — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 01:37:24 GMT

Knight_of_BAAWA:
I highly doubt that there's a single Gitmo prisoner who wasn't waterboarded

Poptech:
You highly doubt? Try only 3 were ever waterboarded,

I highly doubt that. Do you actually believe what the CIA reports about its own torture activities? If you do, I have some oceanfront property in Kansas I'd like to sell you.