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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="http://mises.org/community/utility/FeedStylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Brainpolice : Anarchism, Labor</title><link>http://mises.org/community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Anarchism/Labor/default.aspx</link><description>Tags: Anarchism, Labor</description><dc:language>en</dc:language><generator>CommunityServer 2008.5 SP2 (Build: 40407.4157)</generator><item><title>Benjamin Tucker: American Anarchist</title><link>http://mises.org/community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/2009/01/29/benjamin-tucker-american-anarchist.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 04:17:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">944abf2b-d1be-4bf2-990d-438cb0e377e9:85634</guid><dc:creator>Brainpolice</dc:creator><slash:comments>2</slash:comments><wfw:commentRss xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/">http://mises.org/community/blogs/brainpolice/rsscomments.aspx?PostID=85634</wfw:commentRss><wfw:comment xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/">http://mises.org/community/blogs/brainpolice/commentapi.aspx?PostID=85634</wfw:comment><comments>http://mises.org/community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/2009/01/29/benjamin-tucker-american-anarchist.aspx#comments</comments><description>&lt;p&gt;Benjamin Tucker was arguably the leading figure of individualist anarchism in America in the 19th century. He was the editor and chief of the classic anarchist periodical &amp;quot;Liberty&amp;quot;, which involved many key figures in early individualist anarchism such as Lysander Spooner, Stephen Pearl Andrews, Auberon Herbert, Joshua Ingalls and Victor Yarros. Tucker once half-jokingly said that anarchists are just unterrified Jeffersonian Democrats. Tucker&amp;#39;s influences ranged from Proudhon to Max Stirner. In fact, he was the first person to have translated Max Stirner&amp;#39;s &amp;quot;The Ego And His Own&amp;quot; and Proudhon&amp;#39;s &amp;quot;What Is Property?&amp;quot; in America. He also was an early American translator of Friedrich Neitzsche&amp;#39;s works prior to H.L. Mencken.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Tucker highlighted and opposed what he called &amp;quot;the four monopolies&amp;quot;: the land monopoly, the money monopoly, the patent monopoly and the tariff monopoly. Hence, Tucker opposed institutional absentee landlordism, central banking, intellectual property law and international protectionism. He thought that various state interventions created and sustained monopolies and artifically concentrated capital. Tucker did not normatively oppose wage labor, but he thought that genuine free competition would improve the wage system and make the difference between wages and the alternatives start to become nullified or indistinguishable. He thought that large-scale institutional landlordism is dependant on state interventions. While he held some geoist or quasi-geoist views on land, he did not propose any kind of land value tax like the Goergists do.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Tucker also explicitly advocated voluntary defense institutions as an alternative to the state. Like Proudhon, while Tucker is classified as a socialist, he contextually supported private or individual property. While Tucker supported voluntary labor organization, he also opposed labor legislation. He was opposed to state-backed union bureaucracries and in favor of more organic worker organization. In Tucker&amp;#39;s view, the labor legislation was only a reactionary and ultimately reformist measure added on top of the initial pro-capital legislation. The solution was to eliminate the initial pro-capital legislation and industrial welfare or to counteract it through voluntary social organization, not to favor or use the power of the state in misguided although perhaps well-intended attempts at philanthropy. Tucker rejected communism and even many of the popular trends in the more general movement of socialism, of which Tucker was a part for a while.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Tucker&amp;#39;s earlier anarchism made use of natural rights philosophy, but eventually he came to adopt an egoist position influenced by Max Stirner, which does away with any formal concept of rights and ethics and justice. This change of Tucker&amp;#39;s could be seen as a transition into what some today may classify as &amp;quot;post-left&amp;quot; anarchism. Tucker&amp;#39;s egoist variant of individualist anarchism is in some ways a philosophical drifting away from classical liberalism and socialism. In either case, individualist anarchism split from that point onwards between natural rights proponents and egoists. This egoism was also partially picked up by other anarchist factions, even some anarcho-communists. In either case, Tucker&amp;#39;s egoism lead him to take some positions that horrified some of his fellow natural rights proponents, and it could be argued that this is a factor responsible for the initial individualist anarchist movement fragmenting.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Tucker&amp;#39;s influence on the history of anarchism and libertarian thought is notable. Murray Rothbard was a fan of Tucker&amp;#39;s, despite some mild criticism of Tucker&amp;#39;s enonomics in an article he wrote from the 1970&amp;#39;s. In fact, the only significant thing that separates Tucker&amp;#39;s classic individualist anarchism from Murray Rothbard&amp;#39;s initial &amp;quot;anarcho-capitalism&amp;quot; is that Tucker favored a labor theory of value, while Rothbard integrated individualist anarchism with austrian economics. During the 60&amp;#39;s and early 70&amp;#39;s, arguably Rothbard classified as a classic individualist anarchist in some ways and was considered to be an individualist anarchist, only he was effectively trying to revive individualist anarchism in a different historical and cultural context. Tucker&amp;#39;s legacy is also carried on by modern mutualists and individualist anarchists such as Kevin Carson. In either case, it is clear that modern market anarchism is dependant on the pre-existing history of individualist anarchism, which sets up its foundation, and the significance of Tucker&amp;#39;s role as a leader of individualist anarchism in the 19th century is clear. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://mises.org/community/aggbug.aspx?PostID=85634" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description><category domain="http://mises.org/community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Anarchism/default.aspx">Anarchism</category><category domain="http://mises.org/community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Coercive+Monopoly/default.aspx">Coercive Monopoly</category><category domain="http://mises.org/community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Natural+Rights/default.aspx">Natural Rights</category><category domain="http://mises.org/community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Socialism/default.aspx">Socialism</category><category domain="http://mises.org/community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Libertarianism/default.aspx">Libertarianism</category><category domain="http://mises.org/community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Economics/default.aspx">Economics</category><category domain="http://mises.org/community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Labor/default.aspx">Labor</category><category domain="http://mises.org/community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Free+Trade/default.aspx">Free Trade</category><category domain="http://mises.org/community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/History/default.aspx">History</category><category domain="http://mises.org/community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Anarcho-Capitalism/default.aspx">Anarcho-Capitalism</category><category domain="http://mises.org/community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Mutualism/default.aspx">Mutualism</category><category domain="http://mises.org/community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Murray+Rothbard/default.aspx">Murray Rothbard</category><category domain="http://mises.org/community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Egoism/default.aspx">Egoism</category><category domain="http://mises.org/community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Max+Stirner/default.aspx">Max Stirner</category><category domain="http://mises.org/community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Proudhon/default.aspx">Proudhon</category><category domain="http://mises.org/community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Benjamin+Tucker/default.aspx">Benjamin Tucker</category><category domain="http://mises.org/community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Natural+Law/default.aspx">Natural Law</category></item><item><title>The Headroom Between Mutualism and Anarcho-capitalism</title><link>http://mises.org/community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/2008/08/24/the-headroom-between-mutualism-and-anarcho-capitalism.aspx</link><pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 09:53:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">944abf2b-d1be-4bf2-990d-438cb0e377e9:48342</guid><dc:creator>Brainpolice</dc:creator><slash:comments>8</slash:comments><wfw:commentRss xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/">http://mises.org/community/blogs/brainpolice/rsscomments.aspx?PostID=48342</wfw:commentRss><wfw:comment xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/">http://mises.org/community/blogs/brainpolice/commentapi.aspx?PostID=48342</wfw:comment><comments>http://mises.org/community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/2008/08/24/the-headroom-between-mutualism-and-anarcho-capitalism.aspx#comments</comments><description>&lt;p&gt;I find it inaccurate to use either the terms &amp;quot;anarcho-capitalism&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;mutualism&amp;quot; to describe my own viewpoint. Being a pluralist as well as a person with a fairly complex and subtle heirarchy of preferances that may situationally change, I don&amp;#39;t&amp;nbsp;accept&amp;nbsp;either of the two&amp;nbsp;as a singular system that everyone is expected to be a part of.&amp;nbsp;In some ways it could be said that I feel somewhere in between the two. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In the sense that I endorse it, I define private property in an ethical sense&amp;nbsp;as the natural product of labor and voluntary exchange or gift. Anything being called &amp;quot;private property&amp;quot; beyond this&amp;nbsp;I see as a fraud. I do not accept &amp;quot;private property&amp;quot; in a purely legalistic sense, as in whatever the state happens to call &amp;quot;private&amp;quot;, thus I draw clear distinction between&amp;nbsp;the status quo of property titles and property rights or a legitimate&amp;nbsp;claim to property.&amp;nbsp;Neither do I necessarily&amp;nbsp;accept &amp;quot;private property&amp;quot; if the term is used to refer to any property that happens to be exclusively controlled, as stolen property and state property can be and is exclusively controlled.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I think that there is a lot of stupid semantics over private property and that those who claim to oppose private property most often actually support some limited or particular form of it but they call it by some other name such as &amp;quot;personal property&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;possessions&amp;quot;. I think that in particular situations&amp;nbsp;there can be some kind of private commons or private property that has a policy that effectively makes it &amp;quot;public&amp;quot; in a meaningful sense (see Roderick Long for an exposition on this concept). &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I interpret Proudhon subtley. On one hand, I think that it is a misconception to interpret &amp;quot;property is theft&amp;quot; as an absolute statement either pro or con (indeed, taken at face value such a statement is logically incoherant, since the concept of theft relies on the concept of legitimate ownership in order to make any sense), as it has two corrolaries: &amp;quot;property is impossible&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;property is liberty&amp;quot;. Each statement refers to a particular context. Socialists who grab onto &amp;quot;property is theft&amp;quot; as an absolute statement against private property&amp;nbsp;are misreading Proudhon, as it refers more to property&amp;nbsp;in the context of&amp;nbsp;an arbitrary&amp;nbsp;legal privilege that can be traced back to thefts than anything else, and they are ignoring the contexts in which Proudhon quite blatantly endorses private property as the only meaningful counterweight to the state.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This position is, in theory, consistant with both mutualism and what&amp;#39;s called &amp;quot;anarcho-capitalism&amp;quot;, hence making mutualism and &amp;quot;anarcho-capitalism&amp;quot; not as far off as some may like to think. In terms of the labor theory of property (as opposed to value), the two are in total agreement and only disagree in terms of terminology. Wherein they meaningfully differ is in the accessement of what the outcome of freedom of association with respect to property allocation would tend to be. I honestly find myself somewhere in the middle of the two accessments. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;On one hand, I do not see anarcho-capitalism as a uniform model, I do not think that a free market would be dominated by a small number of centralized and vertically integrated incorporated firms, I see a possible role for voluntary labor unions as a simple form of collective bargaining, I see the possibility of more individual propietorship and the expansion of enterprenuership, and I see some co-ops as a possibility. On the other hand, I don&amp;#39;t see mutualism as a uniform model either, I think that some of the mutualist questioning of the division of labor is misguided&amp;nbsp;or silly and I reject the labor theory of value. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Overall, I do think that the natural of an outcome of a free market would result in an increase in prosperity across the board&amp;nbsp;that could be construed as somewhat egalitarian (in comparison to the status quo at least). Of course, I don&amp;#39;t think that it would lead to absolute equality of wealth or ownership in any absolute or consistant sense (nor would I find such a scenario desirable at all), but I do think that workers and consumers would be greatly benefited and in some ways labor would gain much more bargaining power relative to capital. I do not think that wealth being concentrated in the hands of a small few while the majority of people are just above the substinance level is the natural outcome of a free economy, nor do I find such a scenario desirable.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In short, I don&amp;#39;t take a doctrinaire approach to either of these ideologies. I value them both enough to synthesize&amp;nbsp;attributes of&amp;nbsp;both of them into my worldview.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://mises.org/community/aggbug.aspx?PostID=48342" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description><category domain="http://mises.org/community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Anarchism/default.aspx">Anarchism</category><category domain="http://mises.org/community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Libertarianism/default.aspx">Libertarianism</category><category domain="http://mises.org/community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Economics/default.aspx">Economics</category><category domain="http://mises.org/community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Labor/default.aspx">Labor</category><category domain="http://mises.org/community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Anarcho-Capitalism/default.aspx">Anarcho-Capitalism</category><category domain="http://mises.org/community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Mutualism/default.aspx">Mutualism</category></item><item><title>Resolving Anarchist Conflict</title><link>http://mises.org/community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/2008/05/05/resolving-anarchist-conflict.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 00:57:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">944abf2b-d1be-4bf2-990d-438cb0e377e9:31030</guid><dc:creator>Brainpolice</dc:creator><slash:comments>8</slash:comments><wfw:commentRss xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/">http://mises.org/community/blogs/brainpolice/rsscomments.aspx?PostID=31030</wfw:commentRss><wfw:comment xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/">http://mises.org/community/blogs/brainpolice/commentapi.aspx?PostID=31030</wfw:comment><comments>http://mises.org/community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/2008/05/05/resolving-anarchist-conflict.aspx#comments</comments><description>&lt;p&gt;Conflict between the socialist oriented and market oriented camps within anarchism can get very tedious. Many anarcho-communists and anarcho-syndicalists appear to emphatically claim that market anarchism isn&amp;#39;t truly anarchism, that opposition to private property and capitalism is a requirement for one to be an anarchist, conflate currently existing political and economic systems with a free market and sometimes even defend welfare states as if take the edges off of the alleged evils of capitalism. Some anarcho-capitalists appear to get baited into functioning as vulgar libertarians or&amp;nbsp;they generally associate themselves too closely with contemporary conservatism&amp;nbsp;and therefore end up defending currently existing corporatism as if it is the result of a free market, claim that all forms of socialism are statist political systems, defend paleoconservative positions on issues such as immigration and&amp;nbsp;romantisize feudalism and colonial America.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The bulk of the debate between the two sides consists of a language barrier, semantics and quibbling over property. There is a language barrier over terms such as capitalism, socialism, communism, anarchism and libertarianism to the point where any true meaning is rendered obsolete. Each side suspects that the other side are merely authoritarians in disguise, and sometimes the suspicion is entirely justified (with some social anarchists functioning as state-socialists and some anarcho-capitalists functioning as conservatives). The more that each camp acts foolishly intolerant and monopolostic, the more likely they are to be pushed back into the statist paradime&amp;nbsp;due to&amp;nbsp;reactionary sentiments, leading to the use of political means to dominate against their alleged enemies. Sometimes they spend more time critisizing eachother than they do critisizing contemporary statist ideologies. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Capitalism has different connotations to the various camps. Some consider capitalism to be the current system, some consider it to be separation between labor and ownership, some consider it to be private ownership of the means of production or the extensive use of capital and some consider it to be a spontaneous order resulting from the voluntary and mutually beneficial interpersonal relations between people in the absence of a central planner or state&amp;nbsp;through a process of free trade relations and competition. Socialism has different connotations as well. Some consider socialism to be worker ownership of the means of production, some consider it to be state ownership of the means of production and&amp;nbsp;some consider it to be some sort of egalitarian free market. There&amp;nbsp;are nearly&amp;nbsp;endless semantics over the meanings of the terms which avoids a real discussion and debate about the actual principles that people advocate. These semantic conflicts even exist within each respective camp, as some market anarchists have abandoned&amp;nbsp;the term capitalism. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Etymologically, anarchism simply means &amp;quot;no rulers&amp;quot;. Anything that is without rulers is therefore anarchic by definition. Any philosophy that is opposed to rulers is an anarchistic philosophy by definition. Whatever additional features they may have is only a matter of flavor. On a fundamental level, all anarchists of any type oppose the institution of the state. Anything else that they may support or oppose beside the state is comparatively inconsequential, although it is of course true that non-state institutions may sometimes qualify as examples of rulership. So it does make some degree of sense to say that anarchism is more than mere consistant/radical&amp;nbsp;anti-statism, even if one wants to quibble that such institutions would qualify as states anyways. One way to put it is that anarchists are opposed to crime or plunder in general&amp;nbsp;as a matter of&amp;nbsp;principle, and more large-scale manifestations are merely the institutionalization of crime or plunder. In either case, there is no reason to ostracize people who truly do oppose rulers from the anarchist movement just because they have perhaps a somewhat&amp;nbsp;different flavor than&amp;nbsp;one&amp;#39;s particular camp. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The issue of property is the main area of conflict. The property debate has been going on forever. Some social anarchists seem to think that private property is either a product of the state or inevitably leads to a state. Private property may be thought of as either a legal construct or a form of&amp;nbsp;exploitation that precedes and leads to the formation of states. Of course, one cannot logically hold both positions at once, since that would be like taking both sides of a chicken/egg debate at once. Market anarchists tend to define private property in terms that should actually appeal to a socialist, which is that legitimate private property is the product of labor - a labor theory of property aquisition. How can a socialist oppose labor when that is supposed to be their forte? If consistant to their principles, the market anarchist does not support all legal private property titles, for they have an independant standard of justice in property aquisition that would delegitimize&amp;nbsp;currently existing conditions. In short, they oppose the currently existing legal construct. The vulgar libertarian, however, does fall into the trap of defending all or some illegitimate portion of currently existing private property titles and buisiness arrangements. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;On the other hand, complications arise over the value of labor, as social anarchists tend to cling to some kind of labor theory of value. This is problematic because it doesn&amp;#39;t adequately take into account the labor of the enterprenuer, the dynamic nature of prices and the factor of time in general. Contemporary market anarchists usually have discarded the labor theory of value for a subjective theory of value and theories of time preferance. However, if one observes individualist anarchists such as Benjamin Tucker who still held to a labor theory of value, it would seem to be that case that the such people thought that&amp;nbsp;a free&amp;nbsp;economy would naturally reflect a&amp;nbsp;labor theory of value. So in this sense classical individualist anarchists are entirely supportive of laissez-faire and only disagree with more contemporary market anarchism in terms of what they think the outcome of a free market would be. More contemporary individualist anarchists have merely modified the position in light of changes and improvements in economic theory. If one takes a 19th century individualist anarchist and merely substitutes the subjective theory of value in place of the labor theory of value, one essentially has a contemporary market anarchist. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Diehard social anarchists oppose what they consider to be private property. They often make a distinction between personal property and private property or between possessions and property. They tend to have a principle loosely based on &amp;quot;use&amp;quot; of property that is supposed to be more limited than the extent of control and amount available to the individual that private property allows for. It would seem that there is a threshold of requirements for property ownership with perpetual use at one end and perpetual ownership in the absence of use on the other. If they are pushed and in a logical state of mind, the social anarchist will not tend to&amp;nbsp;condone a standard of perpetual use and the market anarchist will&amp;nbsp;not tend to condone a standard that allows one to hold a title to blatantly abandoned or unowned property, for each of those standards leads to endless absurdities and may justify clearly wrong and exploitative scenarios. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Perpetual use is an absurd criteria for ownership, for&amp;nbsp;it would imply that as soon as one parks their car somewhere then&amp;nbsp;it is no longer theirs and therefore someone else may expropriate the car for themselves. In short, it would justify theft. On the other hand, there are problems with&amp;nbsp;titles to&amp;nbsp;ownership of property, particularly land, that has blatantly been abandoned or neglected by the person with the title to ownership and while there simultaneously&amp;nbsp;are actually other people who actually actively labor upon it. Intergenerational or perpetual ownership over property that one makes no use of yet others do leads to fuedalism. Surely future generations of people should not be bound to a nullified claim of ownership by someone else, some rich aristocrat who no longer contributes in any real way to the upkeep of the property or makes any use of it at all. In order to resolve the issue, some process of identifying or clarifying&amp;nbsp;whether or not the property in question&amp;nbsp;is abandoned by its original owner would make sense. It should be noted, however, that&amp;nbsp;this does not necessarily justify the claims of the&amp;nbsp;geolibertarians, who erroneously conclude that private land ownership is illegitimate and/or there should be collective land ownership as a universal standard.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;When the absurdities&amp;nbsp;resulting from the idea of&amp;nbsp;perpetual use are pointed out, the social anarchist will often proclaim &amp;quot;general use&amp;quot; to be the standard for ownership. But general use is very vague, leaving open a range of possibilities. It would seem to be the case that what constitutes general use would have to be agreed upon or arbitrated,&amp;nbsp;quite possibly varying&amp;nbsp;from organization to organization and/or community to community. If this is conceded, then the only real difference between the two sides is a matter of what type of voluntary precedent one personal prefers. So long as each side remains at least passively tolerant of the fact that perhaps different communities or organizations of people will have somewhat different standards, then there is no reason for conflict. Free association resolves&amp;nbsp;the problem. If a standard objectively ends up being more sucessful and efficient through voluntary interactions, then it will tend to win out in the dynamic and evolutionary process of trial and error that is inherent in free association and competition. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Social anarchists demand worker ownership of the means of production. If consistant to the principles of voluntary interpersonal relations, the market anarchist has no choice but to support the liberty of individuals to voluntarily form worker&amp;#39;s collectives and opt out of&amp;nbsp;or secede from other particular organizations. If the social anarchist is likewise consistant, they have no choice but to support the liberty of individuals to voluntary form into employer-employee relationships and opt out of or secede from their worker&amp;#39;s collectives. If one is forced into or out of such associations through force or the threat thereof, then they would&amp;nbsp;effectively become slaves. So long as neither side actually forces anyone into their prefered organizational structures, each side can mutually persue their desires without infringement upon others. In a sense, the key question to ask is: can I opt out of your organization/community/society? If not, then it is no different than a state. If so, then there obviously is not going to be absolute uniformity in terms of what particular organizations and types of organizations people choose to participate in, as everyone is not identifical in their preferances, traits and abilities. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;An interesting&amp;nbsp;cunundrum to present a social anarchist with is, &amp;quot;I want to be a wage slave, I want to work for a boss, so what do you do if I truly do choose to enter into a contractual relationship with someone for wages in exchange for my labor? Why can&amp;#39;t&amp;nbsp;I rent out the products of my labor if I sincerely want to? What if I want to opt out of the worker&amp;#39;s collective and look for an employer?&amp;quot;. If an individual is truly autonamous, then noone may legitimately force them out of this personal association or force them to remain in a particular association, whether it is a single individual or &amp;quot;the majority&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;community&amp;quot;. Likewise, an individual should&amp;nbsp;have the liberty&amp;nbsp;to opt out of an employer-employee relationship and voluntarily organize with others into worker&amp;#39;s&amp;nbsp;collectives or other types of organization. One must recognize the liberty of even a single individual to secede from an organization. So long as one does not have any genuine debt or contractual obligations withstanding, they should be able to exit the association and persue other ones. That&amp;#39;s precisely how free competition works, as undesired and inefficient modes of organization become obsolete by people&amp;#39;s choices not to associate with or participate in them. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Forms of organization that are considered to be socialistic are theoretically possible options in a free market. This is something that&amp;nbsp;some people&amp;nbsp;from both the anarcho-capitalist and social anarchist camps seem to not want to aknowledge, each for different reasons and from different perspectives. The consistant proponent of voluntary interpersonal relations has a certain kind of tolerance that allows for those who disagree with them to opt out of their prefered organizations and voluntarily form alternatives. It&amp;#39;s essentially a live and let live perspective: don&amp;#39;t force me into your community or organization and I shall do likewise. Call it whatever one wants, the law of equal liberty, the non-aggression principle, decision-making in proportion to the degree that one is effected, etc., it&amp;#39;s all essentially&amp;nbsp;the same thing. Within the confines of the general principle, anything additional is only optional or preferential. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Philosophies and ideas in general evolve over time, and this is just&amp;nbsp;as true&amp;nbsp;about&amp;nbsp;anarchism as it is about anything else. The economics and philosophy behind anarchism have evolved, sometimes into territory that is very market oriented. There is a progression and tree&amp;nbsp;of sorts that can be traced from the most original anarchists to currently existing factions, including market anarchism. Mutualism can be seen as&amp;nbsp;progressing to individualist anarchism and eventually into contemporary market anarchism, so claims that market anarchism has no place within anarchist tradition is false and ignores the variance that has always existed within the general movement.&amp;nbsp;To try to cling absolutely to every single aspect of an obsolete theory&amp;nbsp;from centuries&amp;nbsp;ago starts to make one rather conservative, and in this sense some social anarchists have become blind traditionalists who are unwilling to modify their ideas in the face of new information. On the other hand, contemporary market anarchists should have a lot of appriciation for early anarchist tradition and be willing to see what they may have in common with more socialist oriented anarchists. They should understand themselves in historical context and aknowledge that certain segments of their philosophy wouldn&amp;#39;t exist without those who came before them, the Proudhons and Bakunins and&amp;nbsp;Tuckers and Spooners. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;There is no rational reason for there to be&amp;nbsp;the degree of conflict that currently&amp;nbsp;exists between the different camps of anarchists. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://mises.org/community/aggbug.aspx?PostID=31030" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description><category domain="http://mises.org/community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Anarchism/default.aspx">Anarchism</category><category domain="http://mises.org/community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Competition/default.aspx">Competition</category><category domain="http://mises.org/community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Subjective+Value/default.aspx">Subjective Value</category><category domain="http://mises.org/community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Capitalism/default.aspx">Capitalism</category><category domain="http://mises.org/community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Socialism/default.aspx">Socialism</category><category domain="http://mises.org/community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Economics/default.aspx">Economics</category><category domain="http://mises.org/community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Philosophy/default.aspx">Philosophy</category><category domain="http://mises.org/community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Free+Association/default.aspx">Free Association</category><category domain="http://mises.org/community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Labor/default.aspx">Labor</category><category domain="http://mises.org/community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/History/default.aspx">History</category></item><item><title>A Left-Rothbardian Approach To "Privatization"</title><link>http://mises.org/community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/2008/04/04/a-left-rothbardian-approach-to-quot-privatization-quot.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 17:29:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">944abf2b-d1be-4bf2-990d-438cb0e377e9:25443</guid><dc:creator>Brainpolice</dc:creator><slash:comments>9</slash:comments><wfw:commentRss xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/">http://mises.org/community/blogs/brainpolice/rsscomments.aspx?PostID=25443</wfw:commentRss><wfw:comment xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/">http://mises.org/community/blogs/brainpolice/commentapi.aspx?PostID=25443</wfw:comment><comments>http://mises.org/community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/2008/04/04/a-left-rothbardian-approach-to-quot-privatization-quot.aspx#comments</comments><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2"&gt;What exactly does it mean to &amp;quot;privatize&amp;quot; a service or industry? &lt;/font&gt;&lt;a class="null" title="As I have discussed before" href="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/2008/03/04/quot-private-quot-and-quot-public-quot-are-misleading-terms.aspx" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" color="#003399" size="2"&gt;As I have argued before&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2"&gt;, there is a lot of confusion over the precise meaning of the&amp;nbsp;terms &amp;quot;public&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;private&amp;quot; to begin with. The fact that state-controled property is called &amp;quot;public&amp;quot; is misleading because it obviously is not actually controled by the public in any real sense. The public bears the costs for its maintance, but they do not actually&amp;nbsp;have any&amp;nbsp;control over it in a way that a real owner would. The public is of course&amp;nbsp;nothing but a term representing the accumulation of private individuals. Fundamentally, the purpose of &amp;quot;privatization&amp;quot;&amp;nbsp;is to&amp;nbsp;transfer ownership or control over a given piece of property or service from the state to private individuals.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2"&gt;The question inevitably arises over how exactly to go about doing this. The typical proposal for privatization is more or less to sell it to the highest bidder, which predictably is going to be a large corporation, probably one that already is in bed with the state to begin with. From a libertarian perspective, this is problematic for a number of reasons. First and foremost, the state is not a legitimate owner of the property to begin with, so how can it sell &amp;quot;its&amp;quot; property? The state, at least by Rothbardian standards of property ownership, is a criminal&amp;nbsp;organization because&amp;nbsp;state controlled property is stolen property. Proposing that the state sell off the property it controls would be no different than proposing that a thief sell off the property that they stole. But this would be to propose that the thief deserves compensation rather than their victims. To ignore this analogy would be to treat the state as if it were a legitimate private property owner, which it isn’t according to any sensible libertarian understanding of the institution. &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2"&gt;Furthermore, the ability to buy property off of the state in this scenario would be quite an exclusive privilege only available to a select set of private interests that already are in patronage with the state. The masses at large do not have the ability to be in patronage with the state in this way, nor could they afford it even if they had such access to the institution. This could be seen as&amp;nbsp;constituting a barrier to entry for most people, as only a handful of private elites are allowed to have access to such patronage. In selling an entire industry or swath of property&amp;nbsp;to one particular private group or corporation, power has merely been transfered from one singular central institution to another. While this might not necessarily qualify as a monopoly under the Austrian definition of a monopoly, it most certainly is centralized and the institution or private group in question most certainly is privileged. &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2"&gt;That wild eyed communist Murray Rothbard once suggested a very radical alternative to this method. While Rothbard grew more conservative as he aged, in my view he was in his prime in the late 60’s and early 70’s. It is well known that he was more closely allied with the libertarian &amp;quot;left&amp;quot; during this period. It is also well known that he later abandoned this alliance due to the increasingly irrationalist tendencies in organizations such as Students For A Democratic Society. Nonetheless, the position he advocated at the time amounts to the idea that state controlled property and state run services are homesteadable as if they currently have no legitimate owner. In particular, Rothbard outlined this position in a 1969 issue of&amp;nbsp;&amp;quot;The Libertarian Forum&amp;quot; titled &amp;quot;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;a class="null" title="Confiscation and the Homestead Principle" href="http://www.mises.org/journals/lf/1969/1969_06_15.pdf" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" color="#003399" size="2"&gt;Confiscation and the Homestead Principle&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2"&gt;&amp;quot;. In the article, Rothbard states the following:&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="PADDING-LEFT:30px;"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2"&gt;&amp;quot;Let us now apply our libertarian theory of property to the case of property in the hands&lt;b&gt; &lt;/b&gt;of, or derived from, the State apparatus. The libertarian sees the State as a giant gang of organized criminals, who live off the theft called &amp;quot;taxation&amp;quot; and use the proceeds to kill, enslave, and generally push people around. Therefore, any property in the hands of the State is in the hands of thieves, and should be liberated as quickly as possible. &lt;i&gt;Any &lt;/i&gt;person or group who liberates such property, who confiscates or appropriates it from the State, is performing a virtuous act and a signal service to the cause of liberty. In the case of the State, furthermore, the victim&amp;nbsp;is not readily identifiable as B, the horse-owner. All taxpayers, all draftees, all victims of the State have been mulcted. How to go about returning all this property to the taxpayers? What proportions should be used in this terrific tangle of robbery and injustice that we have all suffered at the hands of the State? Often, the most practical method of de-statizing is simply to grant the moral right of ownership&amp;nbsp;on the person or group who seizes the property from the State. Of this group, the most morally deserving are the ones who are already using the property but who have no moral complicity in the State’s act of aggression. These people then become the homesteaders of the stolen property and hence the rightful owners.&amp;quot;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2"&gt;It is no wonder why he was red baited by conservatives. Rothbard goes on to illustrate an example in the case of state run universities:&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p style="PADDING-LEFT:30px;" align="left"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2"&gt;&amp;quot;Take, for example, the State universities. This is property built on funds stolen from the taxpayers. Since the State has not found or put into effect a way of returning ownership of this property to the taxpaying public, the proper owners of this university are the &amp;quot;homesteaders&amp;quot;, those who have already been using and therefore &amp;quot;mixing their labor&amp;quot; with the facilities. The prime consideration is to deprive the thief, in this case the State, as quickly as possible of the ownership and control of its ill-gotten gains, to return the property to the innocent, private sector. This means student and/or faculty ownership of the universities. As between the two groups, the students have a prior claim, for the students have been paying at least some amount to support the university whereas the faculty suffer from the moral taint of living off State funds and thereby becoming to some extent a part of the State apparatus.&amp;quot;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2"&gt;In his comment that the state has not found or put into effect a way of returning ownersip of this property to the taxpayers, Rothbard briefly touches on an interesting practical problem. While we have clearly identified some problems with treating the state as if it were the legitimate private property of those who make it up, one could also put foreward the notion that the state is the common property of the tax-payers. But while the taxpayers have clearly been stolen from, there is no sensible way to proportionally&amp;nbsp;redistribute this property back to them, especially considering that it has been redistributed in an endless web so many times over and over such a long period of time that original ownership would be virtually impossible to precisely identify.&amp;nbsp;If anything, the attempt to&amp;nbsp;redistribute in this way&amp;nbsp;would probably end up being a great big welfare scheme, and in practise certain special interests would win out over others. &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2"&gt;So we return to the glaring fact that there currently is no discernable just owner of the property. The state obviously must be ruled out as being a just owner because it constitutes nothing more than a band of criminals who stole it to begin with. And while the hapless tax-payers were the original just owners, it is practically impossible to reallocate it back to them in proportion to what was originally stolen from them. So if the state can neither be treated as if it were the private property of its members or as if it were&amp;nbsp;the common property of the tax-payer, it would seem that the only logical option left is to treat it as currently having no legitimate owner and being open to appropriation by either those non-criminals&amp;nbsp;who exercise their labor over it or the first people to appropriate it for themselves. &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2"&gt;This has rather profound implications relating to the question of how to transition to a stateless society. At least for the market anarchist, the point is to &amp;quot;privatize&amp;quot; literally everything that the state controls, from the mundane to the fundamentals of the provision of defense and arbitration. But instead of the idea of the state &amp;quot;selling&amp;quot; itself to the highest bidder or a singular private entity, which would seem to be a potential recipe for disaster if not the formation of another state, the idea should be to effectively &amp;quot;homestead the state&amp;quot;. This would obviously include government claimed&amp;nbsp;land, and of course the state is defined by its territorial dominion. The portions that are currently entirely unused or vacant would either remain that way or start to be homesteaded by original appropriators, and the portions that are directly controled by the state would be appropriated by those non-criminals&amp;nbsp;who labor upon it and the first users. The state would essentially be absorbed by the economic organism. &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://mises.org/community/aggbug.aspx?PostID=25443" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description><category domain="http://mises.org/community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Anarchism/default.aspx">Anarchism</category><category domain="http://mises.org/community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Taxation/default.aspx">Taxation</category><category domain="http://mises.org/community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Patronage/default.aspx">Patronage</category><category domain="http://mises.org/community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Libertarianism/default.aspx">Libertarianism</category><category domain="http://mises.org/community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Corporatism/default.aspx">Corporatism</category><category domain="http://mises.org/community/blogs/brainpolice/archive/tags/Labor/default.aspx">Labor</category></item></channel></rss>