Autolykos

Autolykos, Being relatively new to Mises, and seeing your recent thread on John James, I thought this thread should be posted here. Is it your intention to go around on Mises.org and accuse members of being trolls in order to provoke emotional responses from them? You have some good insight into a lot of matters, and oftentimes it is well thought out, but sometimes your approach in response to others' comments seems childish and berating at times, and frankly I don't think it is needed or welcome here. It creates an air of hostility and I think that's why, a lot of the time, people don't respond to you right away. Below is a small sample of your recent comments to a few members to give context. Really, it seems a bit childish, and I wish you would respond to your Mises peers a little more courteously, even if we don't respond to your answer immediately or disagree with you on an issue. Forgive me if this is not the proper outlet as I'm not completely familiar with the forum guidelines, but my individual messages to you seem to go nowhere, and I thought this should be the outlet to inspire a change to courtesy on your part.

Autolykos:

Jackson, are you going to actually respond to my posts? Or do I need to publicly accuse you of trolling and start reporting your posts as such?

Autolykos:

That's right. Now I'll directly and rudely call you a troll, because at this point, I definitely think you are one.

Autolykos:

You and Laotzu del Zinn don't just have "a different way of thinking" - you have a different reason for being here, as far as I can tell. That reason is dishonest. That is, you're both liars and trolls as far as I'm concerned.

Autolykos:

Let's try this again. Are you going to fix your tone or not?

Autolykos:

Troll harder, Xarthaz. no

Again, these are just a few recent examples of how you behave when, apparently, you do not get your way. I think the majority of the members are genuinely here to learn and debate while enjoying themselves in the process. I suggest possibly curbing the emotion in your retorts, and if anybody truly offends you, objectively state that to be the case instead of throwing around accusation which are likely untrue. Please, without making this issue about anybody or anything else, do you concur with my request?

No.  Autolykos is not a troll.  In other words, he is not posting to provoke emotional responses.  There are a fair amount of people here who are actually intellectually dishonest, and Autolykos calls them out on it.  I find some of these to be wildly out of context, as Jackson LaRose has actually insulted Autolykos by calling him stupid on multiple occassions.  Limitgov was incredibly rude to Autolykos, and he responded accordingly.  Since you are so new here, I think it would be better if you don't start threads about other members unless you have a problem directly with the person.  In other words, if limitgov or Jackson are irritated with Autolykos, let them start a thread.

Although I didn't quote what he has responded to me with, I intentionally varied it to not make it seem personal. It isn't. On multiple threads I have opened, he has responded the exact same way not only to me but multiple people. I asked him personally to refrain from commenting on my threads due to the occasionally coarse nature of his responses, but he seems insistent on doing so anyway. From here onward, I would like a response directly from Autolykos, not his friends. If he is to further comment on any of my threads, I require him to be courteous. He frequently pressures people in my threads, and in others, to respond quickly and to his satisfaction, and I'm concerned with how much it derails discussions and, overall, the mood of the discussion. That's all.

The threads you start are not your own.  Anyone can post to them.  If anyone is especially nasty, the mods typically remove or warn posters.  I have never seen Autolykos enter a thread to harass someone who has demonstrated that he is here for honest debate.  If you have ever seen something that looks like that, you should read their past conversations, and you will see that this person has demonstrated a lack of respect for honest debate.

I know you want to hear from Autolykos, but these accusations are without merit in my opinion.

Yet you persist in responding. You two apparently have a deep kinship I'm unaware of. Whatever it is, the issue is old now. Looks like he's not going to respond because usually he's very quick with his responses. That's part of his shtick. Anyhow, I'm over it, it was merely an attempt to have a decent atmosphere in my threads. I take his absent response as signifying that he does not care, so I simply will not respond to him from here onward if he doesn't respect my wishes and decides to post in my threads anyway. Water under the bridge for me.

Since I don't check the Member Issues forums regularly, I didn't see this thread until just now - and by accident, at that.

triknighted:

Autolykos, Being relatively new to Mises, and seeing your recent thread on John James, I thought this thread should be posted here. Is it your intention to go around on Mises.org and accuse members of being trolls in order to provoke emotional responses from them?

Not at all. I accuse people of being trolls in order to call them out on (what I see as) their nonsense. That can have a side-effect of alerting others to it.

triknighted:

You have some good insight into a lot of matters, and oftentimes it is well thought out, but sometimes your approach in response to others' comments seems childish and berating at times, and frankly I don't think it is needed or welcome here.

I'd like you to explain just how you think my approach is "childish". Of course it's berating at times, because I see the need to berate people sometimes. In all honesty, whether you think it's needed or welcome here makes no difference to me.

triknighted:

It creates an air of hostility and I think that's why, a lot of the time, people don't respond to you right away.

Please explain why you think that's the case. Otherwise, minimizing hostility is not one of my goals in this forum.

triknighted:

Below is a small sample of your recent comments to a few members to give context. Really, it seems a bit childish, and I wish you would respond to your Mises peers a little more courteously, even if we don't respond to your answer immediately or disagree with you on an issue.

Courtesy apparently doesn't work all the time. Furthermore, I see no reason to be courteous to people who I think have been uncourteous to me already.

triknighted:

I suggest possibly curbing the emotion in your retorts, and if anybody truly offends you, objectively state that to be the case instead of throwing around accusation which are likely untrue. Please, without making this issue about anybody or anything else, do you concur with my request?

No.