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nirgrahamUK Posted: Sun, May 23 2010 9:47 PM
MMMark:
Sun. 10/05/23 22:41 EDT .post #120
Grayson Lilburne:
After he is temp-banned for doing so, the moderators get called out for censoring him.
I performed a page search for the string "censor"; it appears twice: here and here. Both occurrences are authored by nirgrahamUK, and nowhere in the two
pages of this thread do I see anyone accusing the moderators of "censoring." What I do see is you accusing others of doing this, and it's a false
accusation. For the record, I never accused the moderators of "censoring."
MMMark:
Graham, you are mocking me and being deliberately glib.
I'm trying very hard to communicate something that I feel is an important issue, and you respond this way.
You have made up your mind that I am wrong, you are right, that you need no longer consider the issue, so you mock me.
nirgrahamUK:
You would like it less if you were insulted. You would like it less if your favourite economist took to posting here and then... abandoned it because the place
had become a haven of verbal filth.
nirgrahamUK:
I have heard you loud and clear.
The above exchange suggest to me that, while you have may have heard me, you have not understood. For example, why do you suggest to me that I "would
like it less"? There are several problems here:

1. You don't know that I would "like it less"; this is your assumption only.
2. You are also assuming that I "don't like" your responses to me.
3. You are assuming that you know, not only what my values are, but the values of others posters as well. Bolstered with the confidence these assumptions
engender, you push the ban button.
I'm disappointed that I've failed to communicate with you, but failure to communicate is an old familiar friend to me. At least I have the opportunity to keep
trying, which is more than you gave Giles.

I've lost some respect for you as well, but I've learned something about you. To me, that's a good trade.

What have you lost? You have lost the assurance that, in the future, posters (including myself) will be perfectly blunt and frank with you, or even with anyone
else. What have you gained? "Civility." Hopefully, to you, that is also a good trade.

I am assuming that your first name is "Graham." Please correct me if I'm wrong.

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>>1) You don't know that I would "like it less"; this is your assumption only.

its an assumption. you win. i lose.

2) you told me you didn't like my responses to me.....

3) when it comes down to it I assume I know the values that Lilburne and Jeffrey Tucker wish the forum's to express. If I am consistently wrong they will see
to it that I stop moderating.

>>I've lost some respect for you as well, but I've learned something about you. To me, that's a good trade
>>What have you lost? You have lost the assurance that, in the future, posters (including myself) will be perfectly blunt and frank with you, or even with anyone
else. What have you gained? "Civility." Hopefully, to you, that is also a good trade.

cool.

>>I am assuming that your first name is "Graham." Please correct me if I'm wrong.

That's wrong.

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