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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="http://mises.org/community/utility/FeedStylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Libertarian Party</title><link>http://mises.org/community/groups/libertarian_party/forum/default.aspx</link><description /><dc:language>en</dc:language><generator>CommunityServer 2008.5 SP2 (Build: 40407.4157)</generator><item><title>New Libertarian:  Union Member and Voting</title><link>http://mises.org/community/groups/libertarian_party/forum/p/6265/89634.aspx#89634</link><pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 20:10:33 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">944abf2b-d1be-4bf2-990d-438cb0e377e9:89634</guid><dc:creator>NewFoundingFather</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://mises.org/community/groups/libertarian_party/forum/p/6265/89634.aspx#89634</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://mises.org/community/groups/libertarian_party/forum/commentrss.aspx?PostID=89634</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Like I said I am new, specifically to the Agorist Philosophy but fairly new to Mises and Libertarianism in general.&amp;nbsp; I&amp;#39;ve always known that Liberty (capitalized on purpose) is a natural right for every man but also that it is the basis for any functioning society.&amp;nbsp; For the better part of my&amp;nbsp;formative years I considered myself a conservative and even a Republican (big R).&amp;nbsp; But have found within the past 2 years that association to be incompatible with my core philosophy of Liberty; for reasons you all have known.&amp;nbsp; Therefore, with my newly lossed Libertarian Virginity, please be gentle with me in your answers to my questions; I&amp;#39;m still learning.&amp;nbsp; However, please be in depth in any response you may choose to give and notations and sources are welcome as I long for knowledge and further research opportunities.&amp;nbsp; (I read 2-3 books a month and am always looking for my next &amp;quot;fix&amp;quot;)&amp;nbsp; &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As some may sympathize with, I am struggling with my &amp;quot;new&amp;quot; identity as a Libertarian and searching for synthesis in my life.&amp;nbsp; I work for the government and am a member of a union.&amp;nbsp; Both, I realize, are in most respects anti-libertarian.&amp;nbsp; I justify my continued choice of career in that 1.) I am functioning as a protector of life and property (as a firefighter) and 2.) I continue my affiliation with my Local branch of the IAFF in an effort to change it from within.&amp;nbsp; My struggle continues, however, in an effort to reconcile the split personalities of Libertarian and Government Agent/Union Member; and so I turn to the brilliant libertarian minds here on Mises for understanding.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As I understand Agorism and most of Libertarian thought, there is no natural right or legitimacy for government to exist and that all services, even the one I am apart of, can and should be controlled and operated by the private sector.&amp;nbsp; Personally, my financial life, thus my entire life, is tied directly to the continuation of my empoloyment with the fire department.&amp;nbsp; I am working to create my own opportunities and business outside of that employment so that I will not be dependent on my government job and pension in the future. But nonetheless, I must maintain it for the time being.&amp;nbsp; Bring on the condemnation, but also please advise as what I can do while I am here.&amp;nbsp; What steps should I take to bring Libertarianism to the Fire Service?&amp;nbsp; Is their any legitimate reconciliation to be had while I remain employed by the very government I look to dispense with (or at least limit)?&amp;nbsp; &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Secondly, I have remained a &amp;quot;non-active&amp;quot; member in my Local.&amp;nbsp; I continue to pay my monthly dues and object to almost every action the Local and IAFF take.&amp;nbsp; There is currently a mild upheaval in our Local and I see it as an opportunity, finally, to inject some libertarian reforms in the process.&amp;nbsp; Without giving him too much credit, as I know a majority of his policies go against Libertarianism, Ronald Reagan was the president of the Screen Actors Guild and went on the become the only example of a (semi) free market president I&amp;#39;ve seen in my lifetime.&amp;nbsp; Again, I understand the argument against participating in politics and the illegitimacy of government altogether.&amp;nbsp; However, is there a place for me in the restructuring of my Local considering the viewpoints and libertarian ideas I posess?&amp;nbsp; If so, what outline or guideline would you suggest I follow and what policies on a Local level should I endorse, encourage and battle for?&amp;nbsp; My assumption is that Libertarianism and Agorism allow for the free association of people towards a common goal, thus the background of the union itself.&amp;nbsp; Furthermore, I understand that that process has become perverted through government intervention and legislation.&amp;nbsp; So how do I change it from within?&amp;nbsp; Or is it even remotely possible?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Third, as I mentioned before, I understand the objection to involvement in politics to a certain extent.&amp;nbsp; I understand that the undermining of government monopoly can be accomplished by focusing on &amp;quot;black market economics&amp;quot; and eventually private defense of the free-market economic system.&amp;nbsp; (meaning a revolution, violent if necessary)&amp;nbsp; I can&amp;#39;t help but wonder, why not work both angles to achieve the end of anarchocapitalism?&amp;nbsp; Wouldn&amp;#39;t it be beneficial to have members, i.e. Ron Paul, in the government halls to defend liberty and peacably diminish the size of government to the point of non-existence?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I thank you all for your time and consideration of my predicament and for your thoughtful (thought provoking) answers to my questions.&amp;nbsp; Please note I plan on submitiing this request for information in several different groups or forums, so please don&amp;#39;t think badly of me for copying and pasting around this site, I am only looking for the most information and ideas as possible.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>