This thread is for discussion or debate about apolitical strategies for the attainment of liberty involving social and/or economic means as opposed to political means. General concepts worth discussing are: civil disobedience, direct action, secession (with emphasis on individual secession), agorism, participatory democracy, spontaneous order, social evolution, implications of the calculation problem to the sustainability of the state in the long-term, defeating the state inside of your head, the familial roots of the state, education and possible beneficial cultural climates for liberty.
You're also welcome to vote in the poll about agorism:
I voted for "larger framework" on a very close call against "only method". There are legitimate and productive methods outside the agora, but their context and applicability is severly constrained.
Brainpolice: defeating the state inside of your head
That's what my sig is about.
The state won't go away once enough people want the state to go away, the state will effectively disappear once enough people no longer care that much whether it stays or goes. We don't need a revolution, we need millions of them.
So far it seems that there is unanimous consensus about agorism then. :P
Brainpolice: So far it seems that there is unanimous consensus about agorism then. :P
Indeed, while I am sure that Agorism is the most sound strategy available to us, it is neither the end all be all nor entirley perfect (the class theory being an example of not entirley perfect, but important nonetheless).There is also the odd chance that dismatnling leviathian in tadem of Agora somehow worked, but I remain skeptical at such, as I think it would create a new set of adversaries eventually down the line with minarchists; some might actually concede per their word, but I could imagine enough not doing so to pose a problem.
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As I have said before, I do support some political action in tandem with agorism and apolitical methods. I think of it as a way of bribing the state, to keep it off the back of the newly-born alternative institutions.
Market anarchist, Linux geek, aspiring Perl hacker, and student of the neo-Aristotelians, the classical individualist anarchists, and the Austrian school.
Well I believe we should use alternative methods (such agorism) along with the political process. At least until we gain some momentum, then we should gradually ween ourselves off from governmet interaction. But us being a political power is a little bit, so we should use both options simultaneosly til then