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wilderness Posted: Fri, Jul 3 2009 9:46 AM

Pennsylvania is in its third day of state employees not getting paid.  The economic crisis is growing.

Of course this is NOT including state government employees.

So this involves state police, state prisons, state road, state alcohol stores, etc... employees.

Also, just found out, the state employees were ordered to go to work with no pay or they would be fired.  The PA governor, Rendell, said the state employees could go to certain banks to get loans if they needed them.  The state employees that have gone to these banks for loans thus far, have been turned down by the banks in getting those loans. 

...how are the other states?

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I. Ryan replied on Fri, Jul 3 2009 10:31 AM

wilderness:
Outright slavery has been declared, work with no pay.

If "slavery" were defined as "work with no pay", then my brother recently enslaved me when I agreed to help him move to his new place.

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I. Ryan:

wilderness:
Outright slavery has been declared, work with no pay.

If "slavery" were defined as "work with no pay", then my brother recently enslaved me when I agreed to help him move to his new place.

No.  Re-read my post.  I said they were ordered to go to work or be fired.  Ordered to go and work with no pay.  That's not voluntary and is deductively near slavery, so, I edited my original post I can see how that was wrong and misleading.  They could voluntarily leave their jobs and the State will not try to stop them.  So I can't say it is slavery, that's my bad.  BUT, that's not the point you were making, so, I can't give you the credit.  For in no way is this anywhere near what you did with your brother, if you volunteered.  This is a whole other issue.

By the way, the governor and other state leaders are not meeting until Monday night to try to figure out what to do about this.  Of course if a private business was doing this to their employees everybody, including the state, would be all up in arms about it complaining very loudly.

Does that make more sense?

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After a month or more, PA state employees finally got paid (about a week ago), some didn't yet though such as foster parents and apparently day cares that get subsidized by the state government haven't gotten any payments for over a month still.  The emergency pay for the rest of the state workers happened by a signing off of an emergency bill, but the state budget isn't solved still and there are no plans that any of the state workers will get paid again (or at all in some cases) any time soon.  And Governor Rendell is telling people he is upset that he has to stay around and figure out the PA budget when they have had an African Safari family trip planned for three years.  So he's mad he can't go, but meanwhile he's been still having expensive catered parties at his house... lol

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