Harry Felker: if the majority decide that the competition is not desirable, they will cause a civil war scenario by virtue of the "National" aspect, then we are back to square one...
I'm talking about a constitutional republic, not a democracy.
DD5:I assumed that he is advocating some sort of a hypothetical constitutional ban on coercion of any type. I neglected the impracticality of such absolute restrictions in a mini-archist society.
Strawman. I'm talking about a government whose only job is to protect people against the initiation of force and fraud. I find this criticism odd, in that it seems to apply more to Anarcho-Capitalism (If Government = Force, then isn't Anarchy, by definition a "ban on force"?) than Minarchism.
Honestly, I could go either way (Minarchism, or Anarcho-Capitalism). As long as I get to be more free, it's all good.
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PS:
malgratloprekindle:(If Government = Force, then isn't Anarchy, by definition a "ban on force"?)
Where there is no property there is no justice; a proposition as certain as any demonstration in Euclid
Fools! not to see that what they madly desire would be a calamity to them as no hands but their own could bring
nirgrahamUK: malgratloprekindle:(If Government = Force, then isn't Anarchy, by definition a "ban on force"?) your simplistic equation is hopelessly and irredeemably reductive, and wrong. so naturaly it leads you to a false conclusion
Prove it.
<--Benefits of economic freedom (Red = least economically free; while dark green = most economically free)
<---Value of our dollar as a % of the original 1776 $ vs. time
<- Technically not relavent, but who doesn't like the thought of this? :P And if it works for a group like PETA, then why not? XD
<- For cheap yuks
<-Advice Keynes
Why is there now a considerable amount of bs in my thread?
Am I the only one who can only see the thought-chain-breaking, Uncle Sam STHU and Conza88's avatar, the rest being red xs?
Because I was offended, stressed, and therefore needed to burn off some steam. This appearently set off a flame war between myself and the Anarcho-Capitalists.
By the way, I just realized that I have a bunch of images saved onto my computer that I keep trying to upload into this forum (they're relavent and are awesome too! ). I tried to add them in my last post using the "add media" button. After much fiddling and waiting trying to get them all added, I only could get one to display (the one about dissent). Now when I try to get added, for some reason it displays a broken page icon, instead of the image. Does anyone know how to get around this?
I've just tried renaming them. I'll see if that works (edit): it didn't...Fuck...If anyone knows a way around this, please post it here, or message me. X_X
Praetyre:Am I the only one who can only see the thought-chain-breaking, Uncle Sam STHU and Conza88's avatar, the rest being red xs?
Yah. Only I don't even see the Red X's...
Woo-ho!
The images work now!
OK, I just reedited my huge picture post above with even more pictures. Hope it's to everyone's liking.
"Liberal guilt complex."
A bit hamfisted and over the top. Are you anti-semitic/black or is that supposed to be ironic or funny or something?
John Ess:A bit hamfisted and over the top. Are you anti-semitic/black or is that supposed to be ironic or funny or something?
I'm niether anti-semitic or racist. It was supposed to be ironic/funny making fun of certain liberals. If I went too far, I'll remove it.
After more consideration, I decided to remove the picture.
I'm sorry to anyone whom I offended. That was not my intention. I was merely poking fun at the liberals who take it too far.
Peace.
malgratloprekindle: We can still own guns and defend ourselves.
That sir depends on the State you live in, and your record...
malgratloprekindle:*facepalm* try 200 years for the USA and about 300 for Rome (if even that).
I consider the fall of the American Republic with the Civil War... not 1976...
The US fell a long time ago
malgratloprekindle:Prove it.
How many invasions have we had to deal with????? Historical record shows even at our weakest (Reconstruction Era) we managed to remain unattractive as a target...
I did in my response to another that youe quoted...
It sounds like the ocean, smells like fresh mountain air, and tastes like the union of peanut butter and chocolate. ~Liberty Student
malgratloprekindle:I'm talking about a constitutional republic, not a democracy.
Show me one that lasted more than a century and you might have a point, until then, your constitutional republic is a flawed concept as it allows the Government to dictate the rules it follows, if I make my own rules and everyone else has to obey arbitrary ones I dictate to them, why am I an evil ruler, and the government (which does the same thing), in a Con Rep, a good thing???
malgratloprekindle: I'm talking about a government whose only job is to protect people against the initiation of force and fraud.
Utopian if you think it will end its power there, it will use that principle (Like Dems and Public Welfare / Reps and National Security) to be just as oppressive and eventually further that what we have today (as this system will be)...
malgratloprekindle: I find this criticism odd, in that it seems to apply more to Anarcho-Capitalism (If Government = Force, then isn't Anarchy, by definition a "ban on force"?) than Minarchism.
I find this criticism odd, in that it seems to apply more to Anarcho-Capitalism (If Government = Force, then isn't Anarchy, by definition a "ban on force"?) than Minarchism.
Well your comparison is off...
Government = Force
Minarchism = Force
Anarchism = Not Force
It is not a "ban on force" as you say, but has no authority that is legitimized in using force, Government's ban force all the time, just not banning themselves from the use of force, just us peons, from using it on them...
Hahaha!!! The last one is a very graphical example of the effects of minimum-wage laws. Excellent!!!
Those were all very enjoyable but that last one is really special!
My only problem with the above is that it doesn't look like Karl Marx.
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