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Laughing Man Posted: Mon, May 18 2009 4:16 PM

I tried to upload a paper I drafted on the basis of historical materialism and its contradictions by neglecting the early Christian communist  sect pointed out in Rothbard's History of Economic Thought. I wanted to open discussion on the subject, does anyone know how I can put my paper up for some peer review?

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What format is it in?

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Its in word but I can find a way to convert it.

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If you can export it as a PDF that would be good.  IIRC you can add a PDF to your file library here (from your home community pages, it's either media or files).

Then you should be able to insert stuff from your media library into a forum discussion.

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Well tried to import it but its too big to add in.


I'll break it up.

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It just occurred to me that if you are going to all this trouble, maybe you should find out if anyone wants to read it.

If it is really long, people usually don't have the attention span for that.

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A valid point.

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Nitroadict replied on Mon, May 18 2009 10:38 PM

Laughing Man:

A valid point.

I would divide the actual paper into at least 2 or 3 parts / volumes, create a good abstract (or preface, intro, etc.) that summarizes the entire thing, & then make the abstract & volumes all separate PDF files.

That might ease the workload & make the entire thing more organized as well. 

Although I haven't really read anything on historical materialism, I would be interested in the paper regardless.

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Felipe replied on Mon, May 18 2009 10:48 PM

I would like to read it, Im always interested in refutations to marxist theory.

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You might find it worthwhile to email it if there are a handful of interested parties who can proofread it.

Alternately, if you can email it, I can host it temporarily at NoTreason.com and you can link to it.

If that is amicable, let me know.

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The history of all hitherto existing society is the history of class struggles”

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The Rothbard essay "Marx as Religious Eschatologist" was rather good. Long though...

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I was putting these quotes up for the 'Austrian-Marxist-Anarchist' who thinks that Marx didn't imply history's progress is caused solely by economic factors. But yes that is a good essay by Rothbard. Like of summary of his chapters on Marx.

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Anarchist Cain:

I was putting these quotes up for the 'Austrian-Marxist-Anarchist' who thinks that Marx didn't imply history's progress is caused solely by economic factors. But yes that is a good essay by Rothbard. Like of summary of his chapters on Marx.

I think you have ever so slightly misunderstood the quotes in question. They strike me far more as an advocation of structuralism than they suggest that economic factors are the only root of class struggle.

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Structuralism is just the Political economcy outlook based on Marxist/Socialist values.

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Sage replied on Fri, Jun 19 2009 4:15 PM

Anarchist Cain:
I wanted to open discussion on the subject, does anyone know how I can put my paper up for some peer review?

Send it to the Mises Institute Working Papers. Or post it on your website.

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To anarchist cain:

 

Wrong, do I really need to explain why?

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JimmyJazz replied on Tue, Jun 23 2009 1:24 AM

I would be interested.

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Lord Shore-Twilly:
Wrong, do I really need to explain why?

Please explain.

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Still waiting on that explaination.

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