Why so many books on 'Catholicism and Markets', on 'What is Ceasar's' ?
I don't see the relation of religion with economics or political philosophy, even if they had anything in common like... they interest men.
If aynthing, shouldn't this be exclusive of other religious views on the matter?
I find that religion and government share something in common - they both cater to people who want to have an external authority to direct their lives.
Jain
Actually, it's the justification of libertarianism from a religious perspective.
For most of it's history, religion as lived alongside feudalism and all sorts of oppressive systems. Religion loves nothing else than to force itself on people who want nothing to do with it.
So tell me again, what do libertarianism and religion have in common? Real religions practiced by real people, not fantasy religions that don't exist in reality.
There is nothing inherent to libertarianism which requires the justification of any religious beliefs.
LUCHAC: Why so many books on 'Catholicism and Markets', on 'What is Ceasar's' ? I don't see the relation of religion with economics or political philosophy, even if they had anything in common like... they interest men. If aynthing, shouldn't this be exclusive of other religious views on the matter?
So "religious" men become libertarians. Also your worldview (theistic, atheistic, pantheistic etc) will influence your political philosophy.
The atoms tell the atoms so, for I never was or will but atoms forevermore be.
Yours sincerely,
Physiocrat
Two reasons i find for the importance of those books without pondering too much.
First, the western civilization is heavily influenced by christianity (which is in fact an understatement) and therefor to promote libertarian values it seems quite smart to talk to christians rather than beat them up verbally.
Second, christian principles (No, I do not mean the churches and what they did over the centuries but the basic christian belives) go very well with freedom and liberalism.
Bottomline, you pick up the dialog about freedom from where you are and use the believe systems people are aquinted with to make your case.
In the begining there was nothing, and it exploded.
Terry Pratchett (on the big bang theory)
Christopher hitchens argues that the New Testament view of god's kindgom is just a cosmic North Korea, with a big brother watching over you who will send you to suffer forever and ever if you don't submit to his rule.
Christopher Hitchens is a fascist, a trotskyite and an apologist for authoritarian government. With those well-defined perspectives of his in mind, I don't think much of his criticisms of anyone else have much weight. He always has an angle he is trying to promote, and his atheism is of the NWO sort of western/caucasian superiority complex. A loyalist who has embedded himself with the colonials.
I am an atheist by the way. A tolerant one.
If you find something evil that wobbles, push it. - Gary North
NWO?
-Jon
To darkness I condemn you...
New World Order, i.e., a global hegemony of democracy and human rights, enforced by the US and its NATO allies.
Ad hominem attacks are no way to disprove an argument. A careful reading of the bible supports his case much more than it does the "libertarian christianity" case.
Christians might interpret the bible as to be libertarian on earthl, but when it comes to heaven, there's only one way to make it, and that's obedience to the rules.
Jon, you're kidding right?
@Byzantine, thanks. More blog material off this subtopic.
xSFx:Ad hominem attacks are no way to disprove an argument. A careful reading of the bible supports his case much more than it does the "libertarian christianity" case. Christians might interpret the bible as to be libertarian on earthl, but when it comes to heaven, there's only one way to make it, and that's obedience to the rules.
Dude, I'm an atheist. I don't care about defending or attacking the bible. Hitchens is a pig, and I am resigned to calling a pig a pig from now on, no more tip-toeing around pointing out statists for what they are.
As far as Ad Homs, my description is correct. Hitchens admits he is a trotskyite, and proudly so. He is an apologist for authoritarian government (see his debate with George Galloway), and fascist, well look, if you support Bush WHILE UNDERSTANDING the consequences of his policies, you're a damn fascist. I don't think there is much debate about that.
I'm not a conspiratoid, so no.
xSFx: Christians might interpret the bible as to be libertarian on earthl, but when it comes to heaven, there's only one way to make it, and that's obedience to the rules.
Is your view that libertarianism means the absence of rules?
Help! I'm being oppressed by the law of gravity!
Jon Irenicus: I'm not a conspiratoid, so no. -Jon
How many times do major politicians have to talk about a New World Order, or books published by high profile statists talking about a New World Order, or the policy recommendations from publoic think tanks extolling a New World Order until coincidence theorists admit that yes, there may be an agenda for a NWO in some quarters.
The rampant anti-intellectualism of the libertarian movement is very disappointing at times. Everyone admits the state is evil, irrational and dangerous, but if you mention that it could be conspiratorial, well then you're the crazy, because the wonderful government would *never* do anything anti-liberty in secret...
I've had enough of coincidence theorists thank you very much.
Sure, politicians say lots of stupid things.
xSFx:Is it your view that a set of absolute rules that everyone must follow or face the consequences, instituted by a cosmic dictator called "god" by his followers is Libertarianism?
How is this any different from Nature or the Market?
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