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ryanpatgray posted on Mon, Jul 21 2008 1:14 PM

I saw an interesting article about customer feedback, specifically with regard to Starbucks’ announcement that it will be closing a large number of stores. Apparently many Starbucks customers are pleading for it to not close their local store. Here is my question: To what extent is it wise for a company like Starbucks to heed these demands? Customer feedback can be valuable right? Obviously there is a point of absurdity in this regard but Starbucks has profited from customer feedback in the past (i.e. offering some “organic” blends for people who want them.) Shouldn’t it listen to customers at least to some extent? If you KNOW there are a large number coffeeholics living near a particular store you had slated to close shouldn’t you reconsider this decision?

Here is the article about Starbucks: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121642002363666365.html?mod=hpp_us_inside_today

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The best customer feedback indication is profit margin.

Sure, everyone wants to have a coffee house right around the corner but are they willing to pay for it through their spending habits is another matter completely.

An unprofitable store would suggest that the customer support simply isn't there.

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The best customer feedback indication is profit margin.

No argument from me on this point.
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An unprofitable store would suggest that the customer support simply isn't there.
This is where I disagree. An unprofitable store suggests that some need or desire of the local customer base is not being met. One reason that Starbucks and other chain stores have been criticized in the past is that some claim they destroy "local character". While I certainly realize that the motivation behind many of these claims is anti-capitalist in nature, there is indeed something to be said for localizing to meet the demands of certain markets. Even McDonalds does this to a certain extent in that it offers different menus for Saudi Arabia, India and other countries than it does in the United States. There is no reason this type of localization could not be brought to the next level. If it were, Starbucks might be able to profit from the "local character" of its many stores.

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Stranger replied on Mon, Jul 21 2008 2:18 PM

Customer feedback is only useful when your customers have information that you don't have.

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Customer feedback is only useful when your customers have information that you don't have.

Customers ALWAYS have information that you do not have. They know what they want. Unless you are a psychic you do not know what their desires are. You may assume that they prefer one blend of coffee when they actually prefer a very different blend. Coffee preferences may also vary from one region of the country or the world to another. People in Seatle might not like the same blend of coffee that people in Baltimore like.

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Stranger replied on Mon, Jul 21 2008 2:25 PM

ryanpatgray:

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Customer feedback is only useful when your customers have information that you don't have.

Customers ALWAYS have feedback that you do not have. They know what they want. Unless you are a psychic you do not know what their desires are. You may assume that they prefer one blend of coffee when they actually prefer a very different blend. Coffee preferences may also vary from one region of the country or the world to another. People in Seatle might not like the same blend of coffee that people in Baltimore like.

This may be true, but the customers do not know what makes your business profitable.

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This may be true, but the customers do not know what makes your business profitable.

They may not know the technical details or know how much you should charge (they would prefer it was free  ) but they in fact ARE what makes your business profitable. It is their needs and desires that you must meet.

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ryanpatgray:
Even McDonalds does this to a certain extent in that it offers different menus for Saudi Arabia, India and other countries than it does in the United States. There is no reason this type of localization could not be brought to the next level. If it were, Starbucks might be able to profit from the "local character" of its many stores.

Major bookstores do something similar.  Although Borders and Barnes and Noble are national bookstores, they cater to the local market.  For instance the Barnes and Noble in Los Angeles has a whole floor dedicated to movies, film, tv, art, whereas in some BN's it's only a few bookcases wide.  

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Stranger replied on Mon, Jul 21 2008 3:08 PM

ryanpatgray:

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This may be true, but the customers do not know what makes your business profitable.

They may not know the technical details or know how much you should charge (they would prefer it was free  ) but they in fact ARE what makes your business profitable. It is their needs and desires that you must meet.

They don't know what your costs are. Only you know that, and only you can decide if a store can remain profitable.

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Major bookstores do something similar.  Although Borders and Barnes and Noble are national bookstores, they cater to the local market.  For instance the Barnes and Noble in Los Angeles has a whole floor dedicated to movies, film, tv, art, whereas in some BN's it's only a few bookcases wide.

Very true. Some bookstores also have a "local interest" or "local authors" section or both. A bookstore near Disneyworld might have more books on Disneyworld than a store in Baltimore and many of those books would be shoved into the "local interest" section. In Columbus, Ohio many books about The Ohio State Buckeyes would be in the Local Interest section and far fewer books about the team would be found in a store in Orlando, Florida.

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They don't know what your costs are. Only you know that, and only you can decide if a store can remain profitable.

If demand for a product is high enough the cost can be raised enough to pay for the cost. There is no requirement that a cup of coffee in one store have the same price as a cup of coffe in another store. If people want the coffee badly enough they will pay more.

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Stranger replied on Mon, Jul 21 2008 3:29 PM

ryanpatgray:

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They don't know what your costs are. Only you know that, and only you can decide if a store can remain profitable.

If demand for a product is high enough the cost can be raised enough to pay for the cost. There is no requirement that a cup of coffee in one store have the same price as a cup of coffe in another store. If people want the coffee badly enough they will pay more.

What if it's already as high as it has gone and not earning enough to keep the store open? The customers do not have this information. Only the owner does.

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ryanpatgray:

Stranger:
They don't know what your costs are. Only you know that, and only