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Alex Jones on The Dark Knight Rises

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Gero Posted: Fri, Jun 22 2012 11:13 PM

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I don’t believe in Alex Jones’s Globalists, that unnamed group of people who are trying to control the world. I need more evidence. Perhaps, I have overlooked it. Anyway, Jones gets some points right and wrong in his analysis of the new batman film. The joker was not a libertarian in the Dark Knight. How does robbing a bank, blowing up a hospital, threatening to blow up boats, abduction, and so forth relate to libertarianism? The Joker was a cruel, deceptive, odd-dresser who forethought his actions while appearing to be operating on a whim. Jones makes a good point about the fear produces in movies, notably Jaws and the scared beachgoers. However, is there any evidence that the creators of Jaws sought to scare their audience away from the beach? Is there any evidence that the creators of the Dark Knight series want to scare their audience of terrorism? Fear is powerful, as Jones notes, but what about the Alex Jones show? How often does he spread fear, justified or not, that can scare his audience? He would deny that he has a secret agenda. So would the movie creators. What about those news excerpts that were briefly shown on the screen that claimed the military influences movie production? (1) I couldn’t read them, but (2) if they are true, they likely mean the U.S. military does not want to be portrayed negatively. Is there any institution that wants to be portrayed negatively?

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DanielMuff replied on Sat, Jun 23 2012 12:09 AM

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Documentaries definitely try to do so. Hollywood movies are mostly the "marketing department," in my understanding. If you want evidence of the conspiracy, then you could look at the money trail, e.g. who are really funding the movies. However, we are not the government, so we can't just subpeona everyone.

To paraphrase Marc Faber: We're all doomed, but that doesn't mean that we can't make money in the process.
Rabbi Lapin: "Let's make bricks!"
Stephan Kinsella: "Say you and I both want to make a German chocolate cake."

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The Texas Trigger replied on Sat, Jun 23 2012 12:17 AM

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Gero:
I don’t believe in Alex Jones’s Globalists, that unnamed group of people who are trying to control the world. I need more evidence. Perhaps, I have overlooked it.

If you are referring to the Bilderberg group, don't know what exactly is not to be believed. There IS a group of people called the Bilderberg Group which "is an annual, unofficial, invitation-only conference of approximately 120 to 140 guests from North America and Western Europe, most of whom are people of influence. About one-third are from government and politics, and two-thirds from finance, industry, labour, education and communications. Meetings are closed to the public." This much is known for sure.

Now, we may now KNOW what is talked about at these conferences. However, i would ask you: what good can you conceivably conclude can come of a bunch of very wealthy politicians meeting in secret with a bunch of very wealthy people in finance and industry? This, given the circumstances of how the government clearly does work in cahoots with the major banks; banks which are global and are tied to the national bank of every major country there is. I guess the real question you have to ask yourself is: what is control of the world? To me, controlling the money of every major nation in the world is about as close as one could come to achieving that goal, and I think the evidence is there to safely bet that this is the goal the Bilderberg Group is trying to achieve.

Or, maybe these industry guys, banksters, and politicians all love cupcakes, and they meet every year for tastings.

As for the Batman stuff, who gives a shit. Remember that Alex Jones is a radio personality, and fear mongering sells. Especially for a guy like Jones, who made his career on conspiracy theories (which may be true), it probably boosts ratings if every now and then he tries to take a very popular piece of pop-culture and "expose" some unsubstantiated "da Vinci Code" type conspiracy.

"If men are not angels, then who shall run the state?"

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Gero replied on Sat, Jun 23 2012 1:37 AM

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The Bilderberg Group exists, but as the BBC article you cited says, ‘conspiracy theorists have accused it of everything from deliberately engineering the credit crunch to planning to kill 80% of the world population.’ Is any of that proven? I don’t think so. The Bilderbergers, as they say on their website, discuss current events.

Just as congresspersons can meet in private to hammer out legislation to make everyone happy so as to get enough votes, the Bilderbergers likely try to see what powerful people really think. For example, hypothetically, a European finance official may only half-heartedly believe what he says in public, but he is bound by his superior and already in opposition to public opinion. The Eurozone officials likely discuss what they really believe, what they can do politically, and what the likely outcomes will be.

That does not add up to a Globalist conspiracy theory.

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