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Our Current Healthcare System is Horrible!

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limitgov Posted: Thu, Nov 5 2009 8:30 PM

And its horrible because of government intervention!

The government forced HMO's on us and we see how well that worked out.  It helped to destroy our health care system.

Why don't opponents of Obamacare talk about how bad our system is?  Don't be scared of that fact.  Talk about the fact that its bad because of government intervention. 

Why do republicans think our healthcare system is fine as is?

And why do democrats think the answer is more government intervention?

 

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limitgov:
Why do republicans think our healthcare system is fine as is?

Because they hate freedom.

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Sieben replied on Thu, Nov 5 2009 8:55 PM

limitgov:
Why don't opponents of Obamacare talk about how bad our system is?  Don't be scared of that fact.  Talk about the fact that its bad because of government intervention. 
Because obama wants to put more government into the system, not less. He's serving the medical industry, not the people.

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Bogart replied on Thu, Nov 5 2009 10:46 PM

First, no Republican I know is happy with the health care system.  Republicans are cowards and afraid of being labled as racists by the "Open Minded Progressives" so they resort to just proposing watered down versions of someone elses proposals.  To prove this there are now Republicans leading protests against the health care proposals, what's their hurry?

I maintain that given that the purpose of buying health care is to stave off death, disease and misery which manage to creep into the lives of a mass majority of people; there is no health care system that can do this to satisfaction of even a majority.  So the current one that is somewhat free is superior to those that are completely un-free.

The real problem is the same as it was with Medicare, that is people think that there is this group of super rich people out there who could easily give up a small portion of their wealth to sponsor health care for the rest of us.  The fact that the mathematics just does not add up has nothing to do with the fantasy.  The really stupid ones believe that there really is a Lock Box in Washington containing all the savings for Social Security.

I really hope that the freedom lovers of this nation are successful at fighting this orgy of theft and destruction.

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Sieben replied on Fri, Nov 6 2009 7:29 AM

Actually there's good evidence health care doesn't really matter. The Amish have a slightly longer life expectancy than regular americans. The life expectancy in medieval spain was 80.

Life Span = diet + lifestyle.

How can you say healthcare is important to americans when they eat fast food, drink sugar, and don't exercise? :/

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limitgov:

And its horrible because of government intervention!

The government forced HMO's on us and we see how well that worked out.  It helped to destroy our health care system.

Why don't opponents of Obamacare talk about how bad our system is?  Don't be scared of that fact.  Talk about the fact that its bad because of government intervention. 

Why do republicans think our healthcare system is fine as is?

And why do democrats think the answer is more government intervention?

 

You seem to be confusing health care with health insurance, unless I'm missing something in your post.

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limitgov replied on Fri, Nov 6 2009 10:02 AM

 

You seem to be confusing health care with health insurance, unless I'm missing something in your post.

 

Sort of.  Keep in mind that when congress forces these regulations and perhaps a takeover of our health insurance system, it will definitely effect those sick people who need to have their health restored from disease or illness.

 

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AJ replied on Fri, Nov 6 2009 10:28 AM

Snowflake:
Actually there's good evidence health care doesn't really matter.

Actually, according to this guy it does matter, just not in the way everyone thinks...

"It is not a coincidence that time after time, when doctors go on strike, mortality rates drop dramatically in those cities or countries. In 1976, in Bogota, Columbia medical doctors went on strike for 52 days, with only emergency care available. The death rate dropped by 35%. Also, in 1976, in Los Angeles County, a similar doctors' strike resulted in an 18% drop in mortality. As soon as the strike was over, the death rate went back to normal. A 50% decrease in mortality occurred in Israel in 1973 when there was a one month doctor's strike -- with similar results seen in doctor strikes in 1983 and 2000"

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Sieben replied on Fri, Nov 6 2009 10:40 AM

AJ:
Actually, according to this guy it does matter, just not in the way everyone thinks...
Lollerpops. I'm sure this is far for comprehenisve, but it raises a lot of questions.

Why aren't there any big books written on this subject?

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