How to handle evil

I've come to realize somthing, and that is that those around me are advocates of evil. It's one thing to realize the horrors of statism, and to begin advocating a society based on perfect liberty and the principals of property and NAP but what do you do that day you wake up and realize that those around you are evil? That your mother, father, friends, and associates, despite their many good intentions, support violence and coersion to attain these goals?? I would never associate with a thief, murderer, or parasite but then why should I associate with those who hapilly hand over the means to these criminals? Am I over reacting? How do I deal with this moral paradox and how do you?

Evil has cast a spell on them. You have broken from it, but the fact that they haven't yet doesn't mean they are evil themselves.

I can't hold it against them to such a degree when they're ignorant of the alternative. As for people who know about libertarianism and reject it, they will feel my argumentative wrath. :p

I do my best to educate. Usually when a situation comes up that's related to the studies here, such as matters business, economic, government, political, etc...

The Late Andrew Ryan:

I've come to realize somthing, and that is that those around me are advocates of evil. It's one thing to realize the horrors of statism, and to begin advocating a society based on perfect liberty and the principals of property and NAP but what do you do that day you wake up and realize that those around you are evil?

They aren't evil.  It is a vicious game when you start to focus on your family and friends, who are largely ignorant of the consequences of the ideas they hold, and people who know the difference and perpetuate it as politicians do.

Stranger:

Evil has cast a spell on them. You have broken from it, but the fact that they haven't yet doesn't mean they are evil themselves.

That is so romantic.

Capital Pumper:

Stranger:

Evil has cast a spell on them. You have broken from it, but the fact that they haven't yet doesn't mean they are evil themselves.

That is so romantic.

Thank you.

Start defooing as soon as possible!

i think youre overreacting a bit. remember, by that definition you used to be evil for a long time too!

Evil doesn't exist. Good and Evil are solely in the eye of the beholder; one man's evil is another man's good.

The evils of statism to you is good to a politician, for example.

TelfordUS:

Evil doesn't exist. Good and Evil are solely in the eye of the beholder; one man's evil is another man's good.

The evils of statism to you is good to a politician, for example.

A homicidal nut may think he is doing Gods bidding. It doesn't make him less evil.

TelfordUS:

Evil doesn't exist. Good and Evil are solely in the eye of the beholder; one man's evil is another man's good.

The evils of statism to you is good to a politician, for example.

Oh Nietzsche you poet.

The Late Andrew Ryan:

I've come to realize somthing, and that is that those around me are advocates of evil. It's one thing to realize the horrors of statism, and to begin advocating a society based on perfect liberty and the principals of property and NAP but what do you do that day you wake up and realize that those around you are evil? That your mother, father, friends, and associates, despite their many good intentions, support violence and coersion to attain these goals?? I would never associate with a thief, murderer, or parasite but then why should I associate with those who hapilly hand over the means to these criminals? Am I over reacting? How do I deal with this moral paradox and how do you?

People with different ideas regarding legitimate property would disagree with you. Personally, I wouldn't want to live in a community full of people who believe that it is always immoral to violate the NAP, no matter what the circumstances. But anyways, very good and moral people who support statism do exist.

filc:

A homicidal nut may think he is doing Gods bidding. It doesn't make him less evil.

But that makes him a good person in his eyes, but an evil one to someone else. See, it's all a matter of different perceptions.

Telford, I'm afraid all you're telling us is that we needn't talk to you about good and evil....

still, anyone who transgresses the NAP does so without justification (since justification would lead to contradiction), and if we can't use the word evil to describe him as someone who transgresses the NAP (because you object to that word, and don't understand it) then lets adopt a new word. 

any etymologists out there want to coin us something?

nirgrahamUK:

Telford, I'm afraid all you're telling us is that we needn't talk to you about good and evil....

still, anyone who transgresses the NAP does so without justification (since justification would lead to contradiction), and if we can't use the word evil to describe him as someone who transgresses the NAP (because you object to that word, and don't understand it) then lets adopt a new word. 

any etymologists out there want to coin us something?

Well, I'm just saying the words "good and evil" are irrelevant. Perhaps the trangressing the NAP, to you, is destructive, not evil.

Scott Jefferies:

i think youre overreacting a bit. remember, by that definition you used to be evil for a long time too!

So? I became an anarchist before I was 18, I never voted, I never used any influence or coersive power I had to force people to do things at gunpoint! I studied and researched specifically to determine my political ideology so that I wouldn't do or support anything immoral! Whereas all those around me did little to attempt to find real truth. 90% of people I talk to say that the state is immoral if all the things the state does is said, so long as the term "state" or "country" or "govenment is used in the description but once the term is used they say they would die for it! Even back in my early years I would consider myself immoral, but surly a thief who has returned his loot and given recompence should be forgiven by the reasonable man.

TelfordUS:

I'm just saying the words "good and evil" are irrelevant.

well, the words may be irrelevant, but the concepts are not. the NAP - don't break it. you can't justify breaking it.if you do i'm going to call you a made up word. 'evil'

nirgrahamUK:

TelfordUS:

I'm just saying the words "good and evil" are irrelevant.

well, the words may be irrelevant, but the concepts are not. the NAP - don't break it. you can't justify breaking it.if you do i'm going to call you a made up word. 'evil'

Nono, I'm right there with you! I just had to refute the existence of an evil entity. To both of us, the NAP is destructive to the way we want to live, is it not? Thus destructive is a better word to use.

Eric:

The Late Andrew Ryan:

I've come to realize somthing, and that is that those around me are advocates of evil. It's one thing to realize the horrors of statism, and to begin advocating a society based on perfect liberty and the principals of property and NAP but what do you do that day you wake up and realize that those around you are evil? That your mother, father, friends, and associates, despite their many good intentions, support violence and coersion to attain these goals?? I would never associate with a thief, murderer, or parasite but then why should I associate with those who hapilly hand over the means to these criminals? Am I over reacting? How do I deal with this moral paradox and how do you?

People with different ideas regarding legitimate property would disagree with you. Personally, I wouldn't want to live in a community full of people who believe that it is always immoral to violate the NAP, no matter what the circumstances. But anyways, very good and moral people who support statism do exist.

No. You confuse the terms "good" and nice with "moral". This is my entire problem, those with whom I come into contact with are good, fun, caring, and in their everyday lives very respectable. If this was not the case I would have no problem disconnecting myself with them. You can be nice but still be immoral. Think of a murderer who is polite, respectful, and kind to you but is still plotting the murder of others. This man is nice and kind but still immoral. Those around me are by and large nice people but they advocate force and coersion to attain their ends and I'm having difficulty figuring out how to deal with these people

ok, but do you believe in 'evil' entities?