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Kierkeguardian Posted: Mon, Oct 12 2009 4:28 AM

I wanna learn more about liberty. So I joined.

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tacoface replied on Mon, Oct 12 2009 4:33 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdrGS__yg6Q

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Good song.

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Kierkeguardian:
I wanna learn more about liberty. So I joined.

That's cute! So, how do we start?

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spetsnaz replied on Mon, Oct 12 2009 6:33 AM

Prashanth Perumal:
how do we start?

 

reading, lots of reading.  Hume, Locke, J S Mill, Hayek, Adam Smith, Mises, Oakeshott, Steve Pinker, Milton Friedman, Isiah Berlin.  you also need to learn basic economics, history and be up to date with current events.

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spetsnaz:

Prashanth Perumal:
how do we start?

 

reading, lots of reading.  Hume, Locke, J S Mill, Hayek, Adam Smith, Mises, Oakeshott, Steve Pinker, Milton Friedman, Isiah Berlin.  you also need to learn basic economics, history and be up to date with current events.

I've taken two econ courses so far, one macro and one micro so I think my feet are at least wet in that regard.

What writings of Hume do you recommend? I own Dialogue Concerning Natural Religion and rather liked it but I don't think that would be too relevant in this regard.

From JS Mill I've read On Liberty and On the Subjugation of Women. I also own and have started Capitalism and Freedom by Friedman but haven't got around to finishing it yet. 

From other fellows I'm familiar with some of their ideas but have yet to read much of their work (a few articles from Rothbard, Mises and Hayek but thats about it). What would you recommend?

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Conza88 replied on Mon, Oct 12 2009 7:09 AM

Kierkeguardian:
What would you recommend?

Methodology and Epistemology. Understand how to determine what is the truth in the social sciences.

http://mises.org/rothbard/praxeology.pdf

http://mises.org/rothbard/extreme.pdf

http://mises.org/rothbard/mantle.asp

 

 

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Snowflake replied on Mon, Oct 12 2009 7:32 AM

Kierkeguardian:
What writings of Hume do you recommend? I own Dialogue Concerning Natural Religion and rather liked it but I don't think that would be too relevant in this regard.

ALL OF THEM

Kierkeguardian:
From other fellows I'm familiar with some of their ideas but have yet to read much of their work (a few articles from Rothbard, Mises and Hayek but thats about it). What would you recommend?

If you want libertarian theory Roderick T Long has an awesome 10 part lecture series here that covers almost everything. They're really amazing, as are most things RT Long does.

Stephen Kinsella is also really good in terms of technical ability and content.

You have to remember that most of these writers are libertarians and believe in the non-aggression-principle, so if you want to get your hands on utilitarian arguments you need to go looking for them. Also learn history really really well as most of the history everyone knows is completely wrong (like about the great depression and Lincoln etc etc)

"It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothes. But the half-wit remains a half-wit and the emperor remains an emperor." ~Dream

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spetsnaz replied on Mon, Oct 12 2009 7:45 AM

Kierkeguardian:
From other fellows I'm familiar with some of their ideas but have yet to read much of their work (a few articles from Rothbard, Mises and Hayek but thats about it). What would you recommend?

 

Hume: political essays

Hayek: constitution of liberty - his magnus opus, law legislation and liberty - a bit of a harder read, read the constitution first

finish off friedman.  and also try to get a hold of "the limits of state action" by Wilhelm von humbolt as this was the inspiration for j s mill

 

 

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bearing01 replied on Mon, Oct 12 2009 1:53 PM

Liberty in one lesson

http://www.lewrockwell.com/miller/miller31.1.html

I haven't read the book yet.  This was published today.

http://mises.org/books/inclined.pdf

If you read and learn any Austrian Economics,  you will find that the whole presmise is based on Liberty and freedom.

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Spideynw replied on Fri, Oct 23 2009 1:58 PM

Good to have you!

At most, 5% of the population would need to stop complying to bring down the government.

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Kierkeguardian:

I wanna learn more about liberty. So I joined.

What do you like? Political philosophy? History? Economics?

'It is difficult to imagine any normal person wishing to meet Marx for a third time.' - Alexander Gray, The Socialist Tradition

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