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&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;scineram,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;For me, the excluded middle holds, even in cases for which
it is not be possible to establish which statement of a contradictory pair
holds. However, some people have argued that holding the view that one or the
other of a contradictory pair of statements about future events is true commits
one to the idea that future events are predetermined. And since Aristotle
believed in free will, he considered making an exception that allows a third value:
&amp;ldquo;not yet determined&amp;rdquo;. Here is that argument: &lt;a href="http://www2.drury.edu/cpanza/aristotleseabattle.html"&gt;http://www2.drury.edu/cpanza/aristotleseabattle.html&lt;/a&gt;.
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&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;In the paper Geoffrey refers
to, Roderick T. Long gives a reasoned interpretation of Aristotle
that avoids paradox.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;It is not clear to me that Aristotle
really thought that the Sea Battle was a problem for excluded middle. From what
I have read, that view is conjectural. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;(Ref: &lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/aristotle-logic/"&gt;http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/aristotle-logic/&lt;/a&gt;
(Scroll to 12. Time and Necessity: The Sea Battle, later paragraphs.) &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;jpg&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Did Aristotle Pioneer Multi-valued Logic?</title><link>http://mises.org/Community/forums/thread/43983.aspx</link><pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 14:46:15 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">944abf2b-d1be-4bf2-990d-438cb0e377e9:43983</guid><dc:creator>scineram</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://mises.org/Community/forums/thread/43983.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://mises.org/Community/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=71&amp;PostID=43983</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;What was his concern with excluded middle? I cannot see the problem with the sea battle.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Did Aristotle Pioneer Multi-valued Logic?</title><link>http://mises.org/Community/forums/thread/42001.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 05:42:05 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">944abf2b-d1be-4bf2-990d-438cb0e377e9:42001</guid><dc:creator>jpg</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://mises.org/Community/forums/thread/42001.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://mises.org/Community/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=71&amp;PostID=42001</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="http://mises.org/Community/Themes/mises2008/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Geoffrey Allan Plauche:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;I think it was a mistake to conclude a need for multivalued logic from Aristotle&amp;#39;s remark though. Roderick Long has a working paper that reconciles Leibniz&amp;#39;s Law with &amp;quot;Aristotle&amp;#39;s Fantasy&amp;quot; and also, in my opinion, incidentally serves to show multivalued logic to be unnecessary for resolving the alleged paradox.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Roderick T. Long, &amp;quot;Future Truth and Leibniz&amp;rsquo;s Law: An Aristotelean Sea Battle in a Heracleitean River &amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Contact me by email and I can send you the Word doc.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Geoffrey,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I will send you an email. I look forward to reading Long&amp;#39;s paper.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thank you for your reply.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Did Aristotle Pioneer Multi-valued Logic?</title><link>http://mises.org/Community/forums/thread/41930.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 18:56:42 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">944abf2b-d1be-4bf2-990d-438cb0e377e9:41930</guid><dc:creator>Geoffrey Allan Plauche</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://mises.org/Community/forums/thread/41930.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://mises.org/Community/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=71&amp;PostID=41930</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="http://mises.org/Community/Themes/mises2008/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;jpg:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Max Black, in an essay criticizing general semantics, credits Aristotle with &amp;quot;pioneering modern discoveries in multivalued logics&amp;quot; (Ref. Max Black, &lt;i&gt;Language and Philosophy&lt;/i&gt;, Cornell University Press 1949, p228-229).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Can anyone direct me to passages in Aristotle&amp;#39;s writings that substantiate this claim, or to any relevant on-line articles or discussions? &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Aristotle didn&amp;#39;t pioneer multivalued logics in any strict sense. Aristotelian logic is strictly two-valued, adhering to the laws of identity, contradiction and excluded middle.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;According to &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi-valued_logic"&gt;Wikipedia&lt;/a&gt; though a remark concerning future events served as the catalyst for others to develop multivalued logic.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;The first known classical logician who didn&amp;#39;t fully accept the &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_the_excluded_middle" class="mw-redirect" title="Law of the excluded middle"&gt;law of the excluded middle&lt;/a&gt; was &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aristotle" title="Aristotle"&gt;Aristotle&lt;/a&gt; (who, ironically, is also generally considered to be the first classical logician and the &amp;quot;father of logic&amp;quot;&lt;sup id="cite_ref-0" class="reference"&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi-valued_logic#cite_note-0"&gt;[1]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;), who admitted that his laws did not all apply to future events (&lt;i&gt;De Interpretatione&lt;/i&gt;, &lt;i&gt;ch. IX&lt;/i&gt;).
But he didn&amp;#39;t create a system of multi-valued logic to explain this
isolated remark. The later logicians until the coming of the 20th
century followed Aristotelian logic, which includes or implies the law
of the excluded middle.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The 20th century brought the idea of multi-valued logic back. The Polish logician and philosopher &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jan_%C5%81ukasiewicz" title="Jan Łukasiewicz"&gt;Jan Łukasiewicz&lt;/a&gt; began to create systems of many-valued logic in 1920, using a third value &amp;quot;possible&amp;quot; to deal with Aristotle&amp;#39;s &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Problem_of_the_futures_contingents" class="mw-redirect" title="Problem of the futures contingents"&gt;paradox of the sea battle&lt;/a&gt;. Meanwhile, the American mathematician &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emil_Post" class="mw-redirect" title="Emil Post"&gt;Emil L. Post&lt;/a&gt;
(1921) also introduced the formulation of additional truth degrees with
n&amp;gt;=2,where n are the truth values. Later Jan Łukasiewicz and &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_Tarski" title="Alfred Tarski"&gt;Alfred Tarski&lt;/a&gt; together formulated a logic on n truth values where n&amp;gt;=2 and in 1932 &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Reichenbach" title="Hans Reichenbach"&gt;Hans Reichenbach&lt;/a&gt; formulated a logic of many truth values where n&amp;rarr;infinity. &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurt_G%C3%B6del" title="Kurt G&amp;ouml;del"&gt;Kurt G&amp;ouml;del&lt;/a&gt; in 1932 showed that &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intuitionistic_logic" title="Intuitionistic logic"&gt;intuitionistic logic&lt;/a&gt; is not a finitely-many valued logic, and defined a system of &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=G%C3%B6del_logics&amp;amp;action=edit&amp;amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="G&amp;ouml;del logics (page does not exist)"&gt;G&amp;ouml;del logics&lt;/a&gt; intermediate between &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_logic" title="Classical logic"&gt;classical&lt;/a&gt; and intuitionistic logic; such logics are known as &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intermediate_logics" class="mw-redirect" title="Intermediate logics"&gt;intermediate logics&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;I think it was a mistake to conclude a need for multivalued logic from Aristotle&amp;#39;s remark though. Roderick Long has a working paper that reconciles Leibniz&amp;#39;s Law with &amp;quot;Aristotle&amp;#39;s Fantasy&amp;quot; and also, in my opinion, incidentally serves to show multivalued logic to be unnecessary for resolving the alleged paradox.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Roderick T. Long, &amp;quot;Future Truth and Leibniz&amp;rsquo;s Law: An Aristotelean Sea Battle in a Heracleitean River &amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Did Aristotle Pioneer Multi-valued Logic?</title><link>http://mises.org/Community/forums/thread/41647.aspx</link><pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 02:04:10 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">944abf2b-d1be-4bf2-990d-438cb0e377e9:41647</guid><dc:creator>jpg</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://mises.org/Community/forums/thread/41647.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://mises.org/Community/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=71&amp;PostID=41647</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Max Black, in an essay criticizing general semantics, credits Aristotle with &amp;quot;pioneering modern discoveries in multivalued logics&amp;quot; (Ref. Max Black, &lt;i&gt;Language and Philosophy&lt;/i&gt;, Cornell University Press 1949, p228-229).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Can anyone direct me to passages in Aristotle&amp;#39;s writings that substantiate this claim, or to any relevant on-line articles or discussions? &lt;/p&gt;
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