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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="http://mises.org/Community/utility/FeedStylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>General</title><link>http://mises.org/Community/forums/27.aspx</link><description>Everything else.</description><dc:language>en</dc:language><generator>CommunityServer 2008.5 SP2 (Build: 40407.4157)</generator><item><title>Re: Best refutation of Keynes?</title><link>http://mises.org/Community/forums/thread/85895.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 18:54:08 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">944abf2b-d1be-4bf2-990d-438cb0e377e9:85895</guid><dc:creator>MatthewWilliam</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://mises.org/Community/forums/thread/85895.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://mises.org/Community/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=27&amp;PostID=85895</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="http://mises.org/Community/Themes/mises2008/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Sage:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.mises.org/books/dissent.pdf" style="font-weight:bold;" id="ctl00_ctl00_ContentPlaceHolder1_ContentPlaceHolder1_gvLiterature_ctl04_link" class="title"&gt;Dissent on Keynes: A Critical Appraisal of Keynesian Economics&lt;/a&gt;, edited by Skousen&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The two best chapters of this book are Herbener&amp;#39;s &lt;em&gt;Myths of the Multiplier and the Accelerator&lt;/em&gt; and Hoppe&amp;#39;s &lt;em&gt;The Misesian Case Against Keynes&lt;/em&gt;. They make for particularly&amp;nbsp;great reading.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Best refutation of Keynes?</title><link>http://mises.org/Community/forums/thread/85800.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 15:39:05 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">944abf2b-d1be-4bf2-990d-438cb0e377e9:85800</guid><dc:creator>McDuffie</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://mises.org/Community/forums/thread/85800.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://mises.org/Community/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=27&amp;PostID=85800</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;I haven&amp;#39;t studied Keynesianism in any great detail, outside of listening to the lectures I downloaded from mises.org, but I thought that the best refutation of Keynes was the empirical observation that we HAD stagflation in the early and mid seventies, which Keynesianism said was impossible.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Best refutation of Keynes?</title><link>http://mises.org/Community/forums/thread/68439.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 01:11:36 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">944abf2b-d1be-4bf2-990d-438cb0e377e9:68439</guid><dc:creator>Steve Bachman</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://mises.org/Community/forums/thread/68439.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://mises.org/Community/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=27&amp;PostID=68439</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Hazlitt&amp;#39;s &amp;quot;Failure of the &amp;#39;New Economics&amp;#39;&amp;quot; is great. I read while on vacation at the beach this past summer. It actually starts out kind of slow, but by the middle Hazlitt &lt;em&gt;really&lt;/em&gt; starts tearing into Keynes; I laughed out loud so many times while reading it that I started getting on my wife&amp;#39;s nerves.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;There&amp;#39;s also a nice little book by L. Albert Hahn called &amp;quot;The Economics of Illusion.&amp;quot; It&amp;#39;s brief and to the point, not as in-depth as Hazlitt&amp;#39;s work, but definitely worth reading.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Best refutation of Keynes?</title><link>http://mises.org/Community/forums/thread/68405.aspx</link><pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 21:33:27 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">944abf2b-d1be-4bf2-990d-438cb0e377e9:68405</guid><dc:creator>rstruzik</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://mises.org/Community/forums/thread/68405.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://mises.org/Community/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=27&amp;PostID=68405</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;h2&gt;you called?&lt;/h2&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;img src="http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l135/rstruzik/variety/keynes.gif" alt="" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;h5&gt;(haha, had to share)&lt;/h5&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Best refutation of Keynes?</title><link>http://mises.org/Community/forums/thread/68376.aspx</link><pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 17:42:51 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">944abf2b-d1be-4bf2-990d-438cb0e377e9:68376</guid><dc:creator>Jon Irenicus</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://mises.org/Community/forums/thread/68376.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://mises.org/Community/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=27&amp;PostID=68376</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Actually, Keynes was very much in line with the classical economists on distribution of wealth. They saw it as arbitrary and disconnected from production. It&amp;#39;s modern economists, including Austrians, who repudiated this nonsense.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Hutt, Reisman, Hayek and Rothbard have also written good refutations of Keynes, in the forms of either books or articles (Reisman devotes a section of his &lt;i&gt;Capitalism&lt;/i&gt; to Keynes, Rothbard a section of MES.)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Best refutation of Keynes?</title><link>http://mises.org/Community/forums/thread/68358.aspx</link><pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 13:51:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">944abf2b-d1be-4bf2-990d-438cb0e377e9:68358</guid><dc:creator>eliotn</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://mises.org/Community/forums/thread/68358.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://mises.org/Community/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=27&amp;PostID=68358</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;I would say that a good refutation of Keynes is to completely refute the idea of GDP, and the national income, which some ideas are based on.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Refute the concept that unemployment is bad, it just means that people don&amp;#39;t want to work for the given deal.&amp;nbsp; Of course, unemployment caused by government policy (because it prevents a mutually agreed upon trade) is bad.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Show that the only link between unemployment and inflation is that government can reduce unemployment temporarily by inflating the currency, with disasterous results.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Best refutation of Keynes?</title><link>http://mises.org/Community/forums/thread/68353.aspx</link><pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 11:03:46 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">944abf2b-d1be-4bf2-990d-438cb0e377e9:68353</guid><dc:creator>nazgulnarsil</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://mises.org/Community/forums/thread/68353.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://mises.org/Community/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=27&amp;PostID=68353</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;you don&amp;#39;t need a whole book.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;the entire thrust of the general theory of money employment and interest is fallacious.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;quot;THE outstanding faults of the economic society in which we live are
its failure to provide for full employment and its arbitrary and
inequitable distribution of wealth and incomes.&amp;quot; -chapter 24&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;that&amp;#39;s his reasoning for abandoning classical economics and starting a brave new world of scientism.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;it firstly assumes that a healthy economy would have full employment which is completely absurd, of course there will always be some people out of work.&amp;nbsp; secondly that income inequality is a problem.&amp;nbsp; income inequality simply reflects the fact that some people actually are millions of time as productive as others.&amp;nbsp; steve jobs is several million times more productive than an assembly line worker.&amp;nbsp; Keynes was a product of his time.&amp;nbsp; Liberal thought was thrusting inexorably towards the welfare state, and in order to justify redistributionism you have to villify the ultra-productive.&amp;nbsp; &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;simultaneously vilifying and relying upon the productive member of society, reminds me of a teenager yelling at his parents about how unfair life is.&amp;nbsp; guess what? people aren&amp;#39;t equal, tough.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Best refutation of Keynes?</title><link>http://mises.org/Community/forums/thread/68320.aspx</link><pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 05:25:06 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">944abf2b-d1be-4bf2-990d-438cb0e377e9:68320</guid><dc:creator>Sage</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://mises.org/Community/forums/thread/68320.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://mises.org/Community/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=27&amp;PostID=68320</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;h5&gt;Out of these three books, which is the best refutation of Keynes?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/h5&gt;
&lt;h5&gt;&lt;a id="ctl00_ctl00_ContentPlaceHolder1_ContentPlaceHolder1_gvLiterature_ctl03_link" class="title" href="http://www.mises.org/books/critics.pdf" style="font-weight:bold;"&gt;The Critics of Keynesian Economics&lt;/a&gt; edited by Hazlitt&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/h5&gt;
&lt;h5&gt;&lt;a id="ctl00_ctl00_ContentPlaceHolder1_ContentPlaceHolder1_gvLiterature_ctl04_link" class="title" href="http://www.mises.org/books/dissent.pdf" style="font-weight:bold;"&gt;Dissent on Keynes: A Critical Appraisal of Keynesian Economics&lt;/a&gt;, edited by Skousen&lt;/h5&gt;
&lt;h5&gt;&lt;a id="ctl00_ctl00_ContentPlaceHolder1_ContentPlaceHolder1_gvLiterature_ctl08_link" class="title" href="http://www.mises.org/books/failureofneweconomics.pdf" style="font-weight:bold;"&gt;Failure of the &amp;#39;New Economics&amp;#39;&lt;/a&gt;, by Hazlitt&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/h5&gt;
&lt;h5&gt;Or is there something else that&amp;#39;s even better?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/h5&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>