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The Fed is Ended - Now what?

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pairunoyd posted on Sun, Aug 2 2009 7:59 AM

Let's say that the Federal Reserve is done away with. Who will then man the printing presses for the new fiat? Obviously, the best solution is private money or money determined in the free market, but surely that wouldn't happen just because the Fed has been axed. Wouldn't the US govt simply replace Federal Reserve Notes with United States Reserve Notes? And if so, would they manage fiat any better? About the only reason the Federal Reserve has the power it does is because of the US govt (right?), so how is handing that power over to the US govt directly going to improve things?

 

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If they "get rid" of the fed and keep the fiat, then I would assume it would simply be a name-change and the fed would still be there. It would just be called the "3rd Bank of the United States" or some such.

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So if the Fed is ended and the US takes over printing fiat, what good is it? And is the Federal Reserve actually a better choice?

I'm beginning to think that if the US govt does lay waste to the Fed, that'll be it's chance to default on debts, esp foreign debts. Not saying it shouldn't default (vs hyperinflating), but that might be the excuse they need.

Could Rep. Paul's legislation be the beginning of this?

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That's an interesting site. Must one already have gold/silver to become a member or are you able to buy gold/silver onsite?

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the website doesnt look real... maybe its a placeholder and will eventually be real but....

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nirgrahamUK:

the website doesnt look real... maybe its a placeholder and will eventually be real but....

I heard about the Bank from this guy. If you listen to the full video, you'll hear him mention the bank. It's mentioned closer to the end. I think he's an honest man, but as always, do your own due diligence!!!

Personally, during these troubled times, I wouldnt trust a 3rd party to hold my metals. Well, someone else might "hold them", but they wouldnt know it, e.g. storage units. Once we get a better idea on how this current crisis is going to play out, then I might entrust a bank like the one I listed.

But can't you guys imagine a scenrio where the govt plays the good cop and exposes all this Fed corruption and as a result allows themselves the moral license to default on debt? I think they'll use the Fed as a scape goat, even though they were all in bed together.

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Also, look at the list of merchants that do bitniz with that bank. You can call them up and ask them about it. There's tons of them.

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pairunoyd:

Let's say that the Federal Reserve is done away with. Who will then man the printing presses for the new fiat? Obviously, the best solution is private money or money determined in the free market, but surely that wouldn't happen just because the Fed has been axed. Wouldn't the US govt simply replace Federal Reserve Notes with United States Reserve Notes? And if so, would they manage fiat any better? About the only reason the Federal Reserve has the power it does is because of the US govt (right?), so how is handing that power over to the US govt directly going to improve things?

Essentially what you are asking is "what will happen if we replace one central bank with another central bank?" The answer is obvious. We will still the same problems we did with The Fed. The point isw to get rid of central banking, particularly one that is FRB.

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