http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,25797913-661,00.html
Now according to Rothbardians this guy cannot be jailed because he "owned" the puppy.
I want to see the frothing-at-the-mouth lunatics try and defend a puppy having its ears and tail hacked off.
Hopefully there will not be many of you because you are a weight on the shoulders of sane libertarians.
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do we get free cheezeburger in socielism?
So you're saying jail is the only available method of punishment?
Maybe you also want to arrest all pet owners that sterilize their pets? Or how about the government owned facilities that routinely kill strays?
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If you're squeamish about this puppy, don't find out what ranchers do to male calves!
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Who was the owner?
Are you conflating aesthetics/etiquette and morality, Curlz? Why yes, yes you are. Don't do that again.
Natalie:Maybe you also want to arrest all pet owners that sterilize their pets?
No. Why would I want to do that? I'm a veterinary student so i'm likely to be doing those procedures myself.
Natalie:Or how about the government owned facilities that routinely kill strays?
They euthanase strays if they cannot be re-homed. This is preferable to releasing them on the street where they are likely to get hit by cars or starve.
The problem isn't killing. The problem is cruelty. Try and understand the difference.
Knight_of_BAAWA:Are you conflating aesthetics/etiquette and morality, Curlz? Why yes, yes you are. Don't do that again.
No. I'm saying that when a puppy has it's ears and tail hacked off it causes the puppy to agonise. Hence it is deserving of punishment.
And only jail and fines are punishment, hmmmmm? Is that what you're going to say next? Because if you are: you're sorely mistaken. And don't give me "well, that just means you think it's ok to do that to a puppy", because it doesn't.
Now that I've cut off your escape routes, I suggest you start thinking about other options. What else can humans do to punish someone?
Yeah, we libertarians believe that all puppies should be earless... Didn't you know?
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I suppose killing a dog isn't cruelty. Btw, should we also jail people who crush ants by stepping on them. crush spiders, or mass-kill termites in home-made gas chambers aka fumigation?
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Knight_of_BAAWA:And only jail and fines are punishment, hmmmmm?
I'm absolutely open to creative punishments. Instead of jail and fines we could cut the guy's ears off with no anaesthetic and put a device around his ankle which shocks him every time he thinks about animal cruelty.
Daniel:I suppose killing a dog isn't cruelty. Btw, should we also jail people who crush ants by stepping on them. crush spiders, or mass-kill termites in home-made gas chambers aka fumigation?
No. That would be ridiculous.
If you think cutting off a dog's ears and stepping on an ant is the same thing, you lack common sense.
Curlz31:I'm absolutely open to creative punishments. Instead of jail and fines we could cut the guy's ears off with no anaesthetic and put a device around his ankle which shocks him every time he thinks about animal cruelty.
Curlz31:If you think cutting off a dog's ears and stepping on an ant is the same thing, you lack common sense.
True.
So you favor the mass-killing termites, but not the mass-killing of dogs? If so, why?
the pathos is even more effective if the puppy is blind (for future reference).
for a libertarian response. I would choose to live in a community where this sort of behavior was contractually forbidden. the price to pay for breaking certain behaviors (hurting children/animals) would be death. don't want to sign a contract with a death penalty clause? live in a different community.
What is your plan? a righteous crusade? Where you violate people's property and privacy to chek if they are mutilating any puppies? great excuse for a totalitarian state you have there. think of the children.
Knight_of_BAAWA:Replacing one form of sadism with another is not a very good option, don't you think?
Curlz' doublethink is indicative of why nothing changes. You have people more obsessed with the Rothbardian position on the treatment of monkies, than eugenics and genocide against whole swathes of the human population.
Is it any wonder the statists are winning?
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Buy the dog if you think it is suffering abuse. Certainly you seem to care for it more then the owner.
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