Government is ingenious at making people think how necessary it is.
No one person single handedly could make a single govt program work but the mechanisms of market allow it to work successfully. but the money is political power which means the capability to use stolen money. the mutually beneficial deals consist of increasing political power of each other
the key part is that its efficiency doesnt appear in the quality of services, that is not the goal. it instead is visible at the skill of government to maintain itself and successfully justify its actions and increase political power. the interconnected net of bureaucrats and politicians all working toward a common goal, while being fueled by self interests, is the indicator of this.
So i think its a great argument to use against anti- free market guys. To point out that government relies on the same mechanisms, except the ends is different.
Comments?
nandnor:No one person single handedly could make a single govt program work but the mechanisms of market allow it to work successfully. but the money is political power which means the capability to use stolen money. the mutually beneficial deals consist of increasing political power of each other
A statist would probably use public roads and parks as an example. Both of those are somewhat successful.
The government works like a free market in reverse. That is, if you really insist on describing the nature of government in terms of a free market.
One produces and creates wealth, while the other loots and destroys wealth.
One regulates for integrity and honesty, while the other filters them out.
One uses rewards as an incentive, while the other uses punishment and fear.
And I can go on and on... If anybody can think of any trait of government that does not work in reverse (or backwards), then please be my guest and share with us because I simply can't think of any.
DD5 i have an example; my mother grew up the daughter of a factory worker. She would later go on to use public funding to get her through school. This allowed her to work hard and rise to the point of coordinator of the computer department at the county technical school (another publicly funded program). We have gained much wealth relative to our previous situation in the trailer park.
Hermes on the day of your death: DD5 i have an example; my mother grew up the daughter of a factory worker. She would later go on to use public funding to get her through school. This allowed her to work hard and rise to the point of coordinator of the computer department at the county technical school (another publicly funded program). We have gained much wealth relative to our previous situation in the trailer park.
Ok? Good for you.
"I used to see a mountain as a mountain.. Thereafter.. when I saw a mountain; lo! it was not a mountain.. yet now of final tranquillity: I see a mountain just as a mountain as I used to.." - Master Yuan; molon labe
So theft is okay as long as it benefits someone else?
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Daniel: So theft is okay as long as it benefits someone else?
Oh noes, theft is always ok, since it always benefits someone else!
Schools are labour camps.
eliotn: Daniel: So theft is okay as long as it benefits someone else? Oh noes, theft is always ok, since it always benefits someone else!
It is also impossible to conclude that the welfare of the beneficiary must necessarily improve due to the welfare policies of the state, as compared to what his welfare would have been in the abssnt of such policies.
I recommend to you Henry Hazlitt's "Economics in One Lesson". You are in desperate need of the "Lesson"
Oh you're that Adam fag.
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Hermes on the day of your death:She would later go on to use public funding to get her through school. This allowed her to work hard and rise to the point of coordinator of the computer department at the county technical school (another publicly funded program). We have gained much wealth relative to our previous situation in the trailer park.
And someone else has lost that much wealth. Do you understand this?
Byzantine: Hermes on the day of your death:She would later go on to use public funding to get her through school. This allowed her to work hard and rise to the point of coordinator of the computer department at the county technical school (another publicly funded program). We have gained much wealth relative to our previous situation in the trailer park. And someone else has lost that much wealth. Do you understand this?
Obviously he does not care, others could starve, he has his benefit....
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GilesStratton: Hermes on the day of your death: DD5 i have an example; my mother grew up the daughter of a factory worker. She would later go on to use public funding to get her through school. This allowed her to work hard and rise to the point of coordinator of the computer department at the county technical school (another publicly funded program). We have gained much wealth relative to our previous situation in the trailer park. Oh you're that Adam fag.
hahahahahah this is exactly what I thought, too!
nameless: GilesStratton: Hermes on the day of your death: DD5 i have an example; my mother grew up the daughter of a factory worker. She would later go on to use public funding to get her through school. This allowed her to work hard and rise to the point of coordinator of the computer department at the county technical school (another publicly funded program). We have gained much wealth relative to our previous situation in the trailer park. Oh you're that Adam fag. hahahahahah this is exactly what I thought, too!
I don't get it.
Daniel: nameless: GilesStratton: Hermes on the day of your death: DD5 i have an example; my mother grew up the daughter of a factory worker. She would later go on to use public funding to get her through school. This allowed her to work hard and rise to the point of coordinator of the computer department at the county technical school (another publicly funded program). We have gained much wealth relative to our previous situation in the trailer park. Oh you're that Adam fag. hahahahahah this is exactly what I thought, too! I don't get it.
Daniel,
I don't think I know the Adam they are referring to, but it was why I responded in one post: "Ok? Good for you.".... Hermes is trying to pick a fight I believe.
wilderness: Daniel, I don't think I know the Adam they are referring to, but it was why I responded in one post: "Ok? Good for you.".... Hermes is trying to pick a fight I believe.
Maybe, but it's entertaining me. Careful about switching over to ad hominum attacks, though. (It's not like we need to.)
DD5:If anybody can think of any trait of government that does not work in reverse (or backwards), then please be my guest and share with us because I simply can't think of any.
Not picking a fight. Just giving an example.
And I hardly think the people who pay the vast majority of our taxes are starving becuase of it. Talk about being emotive.
Long term; I can produce better and more with an education, public investment (done as well as possible) will actually create more wealth.
All my family has played the lotto for as long as i can remember. I went to college and said, "youd spend just as much and make a whole lot more on the stock/bond markets." I play those, and that contributes to the wealth of the marketplace.
And really, saying the proggressively minded want people to starve is like saying someone can be both a muslim and communist, or a Jew for Jesus, or a compassionate conservative.
Hermes on the day of your death: And really, saying the proggressively minded want people to starve is like saying someone can be both a muslim and communist, or a Jew for Jesus, or a compassionate conservative.
But a progressive and a theif seems to go hand and hand...
Peculiar....
Hermes on the day of your death: Long term; I can produce better and more with an education, public investment (done as well as possible) will actually create more wealth.
Bullshit. If that were true the Western welfare states wouldn't be running huge and unsustainable deficits.
Eliminate taxes, and net tax producers will find all sorts of ways to employ others to cater to their desires.
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