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Sacha Baron Cohen (Borat) Is soooo edgy!

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Dondoolee Posted: Tue, Mar 17 2009 12:07 AM

Did you see him boldly trick celebs and conservatives into real life interviews and then make fun of them!  Nobody except him makes fun of conservatives, celebs, and evangelicals it's too taboo. He is so brave and fresh.

  According to slate Ron Paul is one of his victims in his next movie

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fakename replied on Tue, Mar 17 2009 12:47 AM

Dondoolee:
Nobody except him makes fun of conservatives, celebs, and evangelicals it's too taboo. 

It's true (maybe because I used to be a conservative) that conservatives are always bashed while liberals are totally let go.  Why is this?  I think it is their ability to use a faux philosophical aura to appear more reasonable?  I mean, look at obama -he speaks well and is generally calm as opposed to crazy mccain with his "bomb iran" song.  Of course just like in the platonic cave -it is we austrians who humbly represent the true reason and the liberals are just the pale reflections of that.

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Cork replied on Tue, Mar 17 2009 12:57 AM

I would have to admit that I thought Borat was pretty funny.  But you're right: mocking religious conservatives is not very daring these days, and his next project sounds really stupid. 

That's why I like Trey Parker and Matt Stone.  They make fun of everyone across the political spectrum.

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he attacks liberals too.

like the time he interviewed 'feminists' and confused them with 'lesbians'

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bbnet replied on Tue, Mar 17 2009 6:47 AM

'Borat' star fools Ala. Guard, trains briefly

he rox, can't wait for new flick

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Byzantine replied on Tue, Mar 17 2009 12:42 PM

Simulating a homosexual hit on a distinguished 70-year old doctor is 1) way more rude than funny (if at all funny), and 2) a ridiculously exaggerated if not false homosexual caricature that would be roundly condemned if the skit were by conservatives taking a swipe at gays.

I saw a lot of the sketches from 'Borat' and I thought they were funny.  But my second impression was that if Cohen was attempting to skewer Americans (and a number of his fans said he was), then he was unsuccessful as they are shown to be an unfaillingly polite and tolerant people.

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Byzantine:
I saw a lot of the sketches from 'Borat' and I thought they were funny.  But my second impression was that if Cohen was attempting to skewer Americans (and a number of his fans said he was), then he was unsuccessful as they are shown to be an unfaillingly polite and tolerant people.

I found the whole thing to be far too smug to be at all funny.

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What is funny about his smug, conceited attitude and his lewd behaviour? I think he's just another high time preference idiot.

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eliotn replied on Tue, Mar 17 2009 1:36 PM

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I think he's just another high time preference idiot.

Hey Jon!

Awwww, come on, I am high time prefrence too, in regards to the computer.

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Even worse were all the idiots parroting "I eat your shit" or "very nice".

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Dondoolee:
According to slate Ron Paul is one of his victims in his next movie

 I look forward to seeing it!

 How could Ron Paul tell who seriously means the madness, or is just playing it, after having been in congress for so many years?

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Dondoolee:
conservatives are always bashed while liberals are totally let go.  Why is this?

despite appearances there isn't really any conflict between political parties.  liberals are the in-group, conservatives the out-group.  conservatives these days are mostly just liberals with a few out of date ideas.  They are out of date because over time the country moves slowly to the left.  Take any liberal and transport them 50 years into the future and you'll find that they espouse "conservative" ideals.

thus, people who want to get ahead note this and get on the winning side by trying to out-liberal each other.  People who are currently to the extreme left can rake in the accolades of being ahead of the curve when the center arrives at their station.

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Byzantine replied on Tue, Mar 17 2009 2:22 PM

ProudCapitalist:
How could Ron Paul tell who seriously means the madness, or is just playing it, after having been in congress for so many years?

Probably because he spends his free time long distance running instead of watching HBO.

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ladyattis replied on Tue, Mar 17 2009 2:29 PM

I never really liked most of Cohen's characters only because I think he's often off the mark with respect to satire. I think he needs to go and study the greats of satire before doing any more projects, but that's just me.

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Dondoolee replied on Tue, Mar 17 2009 2:30 PM

nazgulnarsil:

Dondoolee:
conservatives are always bashed while liberals are totally let go.  Why is this?

despite appearances there isn't really any conflict between political parties.  liberals are the in-group, conservatives the out-group.  conservatives these days are mostly just liberals with a few out of date ideas.  They are out of date because over time the country moves slowly to the left.  Take any liberal and transport them 50 years into the future and you'll find that they espouse "conservative" ideals.

thus, people who want to get ahead note this and get on the winning side by trying to out-liberal each other.  People who are currently to the extreme left can rake in the accolades of being ahead of the curve when the center arrives at their station.

 

I agree with you 100% there.  I wonder if it is cyclical, say in maybe another hundred years the left will progressive themselves back to supporting free trade and the conservatives will be the ones supporting whatever was the hip leftist economic philosophy of the time

 Let us look then and see, how they manage their concerns- they for whose cause we are to labor, devote ourselves, and grow enthusiastic

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John Ess replied on Tue, Mar 17 2009 3:45 PM

I haven't seen it, but the guy did the same type of trick to Chomsky and it was pretty funny.   Being a linguistics guy, too, I especially appreciated this video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOIM1_xOSro

He has the English chav (euro version of white trash) thing down perfectly.  It's funny that real chavs (like David Beckham) don't know he is making fun of them.

And RP certainly handled himself better than cranky old Andy Rooney ("I've got fifty books on the English language!")

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KglSPl7g14Q

This video, though, Pat Buchanan does pretty well.  Though Pat is a  hell of a smart person who is surprisingly on his feet when it comes to TV.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwEd_tcKBfU

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wrong link on the pat buchanen clip but i saw the clip with him on msnbc and i was laughing my ass off.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuUdVSFcMDQ

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Zlatko replied on Tue, Mar 17 2009 5:06 PM

His Ali G stuff is funny, but the rest is really bad.

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engine44 replied on Tue, Mar 17 2009 5:40 PM

Would it be anti-libertarian if Congressman Paul had just knocked the guy out?

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