Natalie: filc:What was the end excuse of WT7? The 9/11 comission conveniently ignored that building, that report was garbage any ways. Huh?
filc:What was the end excuse of WT7? The 9/11 comission conveniently ignored that building, that report was garbage any ways.
Huh?
Tell me, if someone replied to you on the subject of Austrian economics, with a one word statement linking to a Paul Krugman blog, how would you feel?
I saw that. It's on wiki as being brought down due to fallen debri also. Still the explanation skips over how:
I typically prefer not to really engage in the whole debate but, to be honest, I feel that in some cases the debunkers have done a good job at debunking alot of the myths of truthers, but on the other hand have also fallen short on disproving truthers on others. Not that truthers are right, just that historically speaking evidence shows that those 3 collapsed buildings were exemplars in the history of collapsed buildings. They stand out as being specifically different from all other accidentally collapsed buildings and conveniently share all attributes of a controlled demolished building.
Statism is a religion.
Seph:Tell me, if someone replied to you on the subject of Austrian economics, with a one word statement linking to a Paul Krugman blog, how would you feel?
Does he even know about Austrian economics?
If I hear not allowed much oftener; said Sam, I'm going to get angry.
J.R.R.Tolkien, The Lord of the Rings
filc:Still the explanation skips over how:
And still the Truthers have no remote clue how the World Trade Centers were designed and built. Which are the only buildings ever designed exactly like they were. When you can show me a third world 110-story building designed exactly the same get back to me. Maybe Truthers should do some actual research.
Why the Towers Fell (60min) (NOVA)
Actually they share NO attributes of a controlled demolition. Apparently Truthers think that any structure that falls in the path of gravity must be "controlled".
"Anarchism misunderstands the real nature of man. It would be practicable only in a world of angels and saints" - Ludwig von Mises
Natalie: Seph:Tell me, if someone replied to you on the subject of Austrian economics, with a one word statement linking to a Paul Krugman blog, how would you feel? Does he even know about Austrian economics?
Exactly my point....
You have no point.
Natalie: You have no point.
Well let me hit you over the head with it then.
Just as linking to a Paul Krugman article in an attempt to debunk Austrian economics would debunk nothing and reveal massive ignorance on the part of the 'debunker', so does linking to a typical 'debunking 9/11' video prove nothing, and reveal ignorance.
February 17 - 1600 - Giordano Bruno is burnt alive by the catholic church. Aquinas : "much more reason is there for heretics, as soon as they are convicted of heresy, to be not only excommunicated but even put to death."
Ah I love the arguments of truthers...
1) So is "government" 1 or all of the millions of "government" employees?
2) No government is too incompetent to execute any 911 "conspiracy".
Now we can listen to some logical Libertarians...
Bullshit! - 9/11 Conspiracy Theories (9min) (Penn & Teller: Bullshit!)
Seph:so does linking to a typical 'debunking 9/11' video prove nothing, and reveal ignorance.
Let me reveal my ignorance.
The Conspiracy Files: 9/11 (60min) (BBC)
The Conspiracy Files: 9/11 - The Truth Behind The Third Tower (60min) (BBC)
The 9/11 Conspiracies: Fact or Fiction (90min) (The History Channel)
Please if you want to learn nothing and stay ignorant do NOT watch these videos. The only way to stay an ignorant Truther is to ignore the truth.
Seph:Just as linking to a Paul Krugman article in an attempt to debunk Austrian economics would debunk nothing and reveal massive ignorance on the part of the 'debunker', so does linking to a typical 'debunking 9/11' video prove nothing, and reveal ignorance.
Yes, and all "truthers" are Einsteins. Thanks for proving my point.
Poptech:1) So is "government" 1 or all of the millions of "government" employees?
Don't forget about the teacher unions. They must be involved because there're a lot of teachers in New York ;)
Poptech:2) No government is too incompetent to execute any 911 "conspiracy".
But look at how "competent" the government is at keeping secrets:
Manhattan project - ok, kept it secret for a while, but the Soviets somehow got a bomb
Watergate
Iran-contra
Monica Lewinsky - only two people knew about it initially
Juan:Ah, I love the arguments of the nationalists.... 1) government would never attack its own people... 2) the government is too stupid to carry false-flag operations...As a matter of fact, false-flag operations are never possible because 'socialism can't calculate' - what a learned argument...
Is there an argument here?
Juan:Is there an argument here? I just listed two of the most ridiculous arguments that the nationalists, right wingers, 'patriots' and other pro-military types use.
As opposed to the venerated left-wing (aka radical & marxist) tradition of calling names and meaningless labels istead of saying something intelligent on the topic discussed.
Natalie: Juan:Is there an argument here? I just listed two of the most ridiculous arguments that the nationalists, right wingers, 'patriots' and other pro-military types use. As opposed to the venerated left-wing (aka radical & marxist) tradition of calling names and meaningless labels istead of saying something intelligent on the topic discussed.
The hypocrisy of an advocate of the official story talking about meaningless labels and intelligent speech, who hasn't read any of the material presented by the side of the argument she is trying to oppose...
But I'll still bite. I don't want this to turn into what it typically does when I debate advocates of the official conspiracy theory, that is, they copying and pasting appropriate sections from whatever website they deem good, while I labour to provide real responses to people more interested in propagating the official myth than debating. So PM me, you, or anyone who's interest is genuine..
tradition of calling names and meaningless labels
Juan:Nope. You haven't yet learned that libertarianism is not 'left' nor 'right'.
Here we go, making assumptions again.
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