Ixtellor: Since you edited my response. NO. I have repeated time and time again, its a belief, hypothesis, theory, feeling.
Since you edited my response.
NO.
I have repeated time and time again, its a belief, hypothesis, theory, feeling.
I was using an ellipsis, which, if I am not mistaken, is used in writing to signify an intentional ommission. You also did not specify that it was simply your belief. You only mentioned that you were saying what anarchist detractors were saying. And even if it is your belief, is it that absurd to ask you to justify your beliefs in an academic forum?
Ixtellor:Name a society that wasn't burdened by political domination or some form of "State". Name any society, where the NAP was in practice or reality.
The Kapauku Papuans of the 20th century. Anglo-saxons in Britain during the Dark Ages. High Middle Ages/Rennaissance merchants under the Law Merchant in international arenas.
All of these are actually from a single book, The Enterprise of Law, by Bruce Benson. Its a great read actually. I would recommend it to all AnCaps and even to trollish Keynesians.
Ixtellor:Cavemen: I was under the impression they were mostly based on clans with either the strongest or wisest making decisions for the group. But I admit any anthropology classes I took was a forever ago. So enlighten me.
It would be an Appeal to Tradition (logical fallacy) to assume that because political domination is par for the course for humanity today that it has always been so. Paleolithic societies were not organized along the same lines that modern societies are. The strongest or the wisest may have been a de facto leader, but this does not necessarily mean they wielded unlimited power. There is strong evidence that these leaders were merely the first among equals. Also, nobody was forced to work or do anything at spearpoint. Its most likely that all recognized that only by working together would they survive, and out of their own self interest, aided the group.
Ixtellor:Why did you choose to quote me accuratly now and not before? Before I was stating a fact, thanks to your editing, now you admit its my belief.
You were quoted accurately before. You may feel it was taken out of context. I can't admit that its your belief, because I would have to know for certain if it was. Only you have that knowledge.
Ixtellor:(Oh and the fact that some anarchists think raping, killing, eating, and selling your baby or doing the same to anyone who goes on your property is an inheriant right)[Hint: these anarchists are closer than you might imagine, they are not an abstract example I just thought up]
Outside of these forums you might be able to get away with this, but here, where anarchist principles are clearly defined, you are committing an equivocation. You know full well that anarcho-capitalists here don't condone eating and raping babies. You are equating the "anarchy" advocated by anarcho-capitalists with the "anarchy" of mainstream opinion (i.e. complete and utter chaos). Furthermore, you know better.
nirgrahamUK:i'd like to get a better idea of how the forum works, and why etc. so this is just a gentle request. im interested why/how/who locked the Children NAP thread.
im interested why/how/who locked the Children NAP thread.
It was devolving into a bitchfest again, and the decision has been made for bitchfests to be cut off as soon as possible. The quickest method to get the attention of everyone is to lock the thread. And it will happen every time a bitchfest happens. Capisce?
February 17 - 1600 - Giordano Bruno is burnt alive by the catholic church. Aquinas : "much more reason is there for heretics, as soon as they are convicted of heresy, to be not only excommunicated but even put to death."
Ixtellor: To answer your question. I believe man is inheriently selfish. Or from Mises: "every conscious action is intended to improve a person's satisfaction" I think I would amend it (my belief). "every consious action is intended to improve a person's satisfaction with the easiest (change the words but semantics)means necessasary"
To answer your question. I believe man is inheriently selfish. Or from Mises:
"every conscious action is intended to improve a person's satisfaction" I think I would amend it (my belief).
"every consious action is intended to improve a person's satisfaction with the easiest (change the words but semantics)means necessasary"
This doesn't really make sense as the action is the means. Perhaps you mean: "Every conscious action an actor takes is thought to be the easiest way to acheive their desired ends."
In which case I would say your ammendment is wholly redundant.
Ixtellor:So in regards to anarchy. I think some men will decide that using guns/violence to force others to do their bidding is an easier way to achieve their satisfaction.
Fine, but now you're simply describing how government agents act.
Ixtellor:All it takes is one leader of a well outfitted, armed, and financed PDA to create major havok, if not succeed in recreating an authoritarian dictotatorship.
If there was only one well armed PDA, this would be true. But if you oppose this monopoly on force, what makes the US government any better?
Oh I know! I pissed myself into a coma when I found out there was an anarcho-baby eater under my bed.
Thanks for clarifying. With that said, this thread is closed.
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