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Is there a Ron Paul for the U.K?

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seetheowl Posted: Tue, Jan 27 2009 9:58 AM

I've been looking around for a British politician that shares the same\similar views as Ron Paul. So far no luck.

Anyone know any?

 

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Physiocrat replied on Tue, Jan 27 2009 10:04 AM

None to my knowledge. There's a few who are quite good on "civil liberties", such as Norman Baker, but no-one with a hardcore liberty platform. Even the Libertarian Party in the UK, yes it does actually exist, is a horribly wet organisation. The most well known voice for liberty in the UK is Sean Gabb, the Director, I think, of the Libertarian Alliance. Fortunately he knows Austrian economics so kind of understands the present situation though I'm not sure where he stands on 100% reserves. We need a standard bearer fo AE in the Uk or in the immortal words of Frazer in Dad's Army, "We're all doomed".

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The Libertarian Party in the U.K. is appaling, it's best to be avoided.

The British are far too keen on government for a Ron Paul type to succeed, I can't wait to get out of this hellhole.

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Sphairon replied on Tue, Jan 27 2009 10:13 AM

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The British are far too keen on government for a Ron Paul type to succeed, I can't wait to get out of this hellhole.

Where do you intend to go? I've been thinking of alternatives to Europe as well, but it's either tyranny or poor living conditions. Rural Montana, maybe, but I'm not that good a farmer.


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There is a lot more capitalism in Asia than there is in Montana.  I'm thinking Asia or Africa.

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Sphairon:

GilesStratton:
The British are far too keen on government for a Ron Paul type to succeed, I can't wait to get out of this hellhole.

Where do you intend to go? I've been thinking of alternatives to Europe as well, but it's either tyranny or poor living conditions. Rural Montana, maybe, but I'm not that good a farmer.

Well, I don't live in the U.K. just study here. But as for leaving Europe, not likely. Despite all it's flaws, I'm a big fan of Europe, at least where I've lived (with the exception of the U.K.).

 

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sirmonty replied on Tue, Jan 27 2009 10:23 AM

Sphairon:

GilesStratton:
The British are far too keen on government for a Ron Paul type to succeed, I can't wait to get out of this hellhole.

Where do you intend to go? I've been thinking of alternatives to Europe as well, but it's either tyranny or poor living conditions. Rural Montana, maybe, but I'm not that good a farmer.

Become a cattle rancher.

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Retrolives replied on Tue, Jan 27 2009 10:28 AM

I'm sorry to say it, but if the libertarian revolution doesn't happen in the States I don't think it'll happen anywhere. I'm in Ireland and we've been the first ccountry in the European Monetary Union to start to nationalise the banks. Its looking really bad here. Socialism has completely won the hearts of the people and I'm convinced its not going to be stopped. The only positive note is that nobody trusts the politicians.

As far as I know there may be less than five Austrians in all of Ireland, all of whom are my friends. The United States is our only hope. Otherwise, I'm moving to the increasingly less regulated China. Surprise

 

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Byzantine replied on Tue, Jan 27 2009 10:28 AM

Move to the US.  Thanks to our immigration policy, when the ball drops there'll be a million little enclaves to choose from.  Big Smile  Me, I'm going to hunker down with the Lebanese Christians.

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Retrolives replied on Tue, Jan 27 2009 10:29 AM

I'm doing my best to spread the good word though! Its all about the division of labour.

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Retrolives:
As far as I know there may be less than five Austrians in all of Ireland, all of whom are my friends.

You need to hook up with the Irish anti-EU forces.  Those are substantial.  Expand your tent and recruit.

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GilesStratton:

The Libertarian Party in the U.K. is appaling, it's best to be avoided.

The British are far too keen on government for a Ron Paul type to succeed, I can't wait to get out of this hellhole.

And there was thinking you were a redneck in the South!

I have to concur about our libertarian party, and the libertarian alliance etc.

Although when it comes to political liberties we have a number of allies on the left who for some reason think that we can have political freedom without economic freedom...

The difference between libertarianism and socialism is that libertarians will tolerate the existence of a socialist community, but socialists can't tolerate a libertarian community.

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seetheowl replied on Fri, Jan 30 2009 4:26 AM

its pretty depressing there's not one strong figure speaking out for free markets. Every major party has supported bailouts in some form or another :(

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Sigh, I go to college of the University of Massachusetts Amherst, there are Marxists a plenty here. Its enough to make one loose all faith in humanity.

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Conza88 replied on Fri, Jan 30 2009 9:42 AM

Found one. He's fairly close-ish. And I'd say, by far the closet? Anyway, he's done MASSIVE work against the Lisbon Treaty.

Nigel Farage

British politician, and leader of the eurosceptic United Kingdom Independence Party. He is also a member of the European Parliament for South East England. He co-chairs the European Parliament's Eurosceptic Independence and Democracy group.

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_type=&search_query=farage

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Conza88:

Nigel Farage

British politician, and leader of the eurosceptic United Kingdom Independence Party. He is also a member of the European Parliament for South East England. He co-chairs the European Parliament's Eurosceptic Independence and Democracy group.

Seconded.

 

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sirmonty replied on Fri, Jan 30 2009 9:48 AM

Lol that guy gave a big 'fuck you' to the Prince.  That is awesome.

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Physiocrat replied on Fri, Jan 30 2009 10:01 AM

Conza88:

Found one. He's fairly close-ish. And I'd say, by far the closet? Anyway, he's done MASSIVE work against the Lisbon Treaty.

Nigel Farage

British politician, and leader of the eurosceptic United Kingdom Independence Party. He is also a member of the European Parliament for South East England. He co-chairs the European Parliament's Eurosceptic Independence and Democracy group.

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_type=&search_query=farage

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I used to be a UKIP member and they're useless. They're united in one thing only- leaving the EU. It's a melting pot of old school nationalist socialists, lots of disaffected conservatives and a few libertarians. Further Nigel Farage is an ego monkey who's gone native know he's an MEP. He's a great debater and says some bang on things put he doesn't himself practice it.

On the plus side he does smoke a pipe.

 

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sirmonty replied on Fri, Jan 30 2009 10:07 AM

Physiocrat:

On the plus side he does smoke a pipe.

I'm sold.  I wish our leaders in the US were fellow pipe smokers. 

 

EDIT:  Idk a whole lot about political parties in the UK, but from what I do know if I had to choose one it would probably be the UKIP.  That or the Scottish Independence Party just for the fact that Sean Connery and  William Wallace would want it that way. Stick out tongue

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GilesStratton:
The British are far too keen on government for a Ron Paul type to succeed, I can't wait to get out of this hellhole.
I would consider moving to the Carribean. i here it's freer than the US in the touristy areas. How about: Hong Kong? Singapore? Switerland?
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