Here's an article from Wednesday 17th September 2008.
Can anybody make any sense out of these comments?
I'm at a loose end trying to figure out what is going on inside the heads of these guys.
I found the last comment I've quoted particularly disturbing, for obvious reasons.
I don't even know how to describe how depressing it is to read anything as absurd as that cack.
Basically, they are insanely stupid and their version of history consists of Marxist propaganda. Too bad. Not everyone is rational.
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Mr Jones:"The war against Iraq was a massive opportunity to create a coherent anti-capitalist movement"
Imposing the Shock Doctrine on unwilling populations?
At the start of the war in Iraq I was involved in many different groups opposed to it and the tendency of most of them was to be "anti-capitalist". But what was funny was that the people who tried to bring that underlying opinion up from the anti-war left were the ones that made it more incoherant.
How it works is this:
Communist groups like the RCP, PLP, and the other three letter names (years ago my friends and I formed a bogus communist group called the Socialist Labor Communists. We released communiques that were taken from encyclopedias about fish) try to get themselves all elected to the various organising commitee jobs for the protests. This is easy for them since they are always 35 year old grad students and never really attend class or have a job. All they have to do is grow their facial hair and decide which bit of drab clothing goes with their "workmans cap" so they are a natural choice for the job.
But then they try to claim that all participants of the march are really RCP, PLP or whatever and then the other participants tend to be turned off when they find out that a fat man who is in self imposed exile in Paris is using their participation to claim that now is the time to start the dictatorship of the proletariat.
I once had a picture of me in the PLP (people's labor party) newspaper standing around in the cold that said "PLP MEMBERS WAIT TO CONFRONT THE RACIST POLICE" but I was really standing in line to buy a pretzel from a cart. The pretzel vendor was omited from the photograph.
Anyway they tried to creat a movement out of what would have been fertile ground but only commies could miss shooting fish in a barrel.
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Twirlcan:I once had a picture of me in the PLP (people's labor party) newspaper standing around in the cold that said "PLP MEMBERS WAIT TO CONFRONT THE RACIST POLICE" but I was really standing in line to buy a pretzel from a cart. The pretzel vendor was omited from the photograph.
But this is the left everywhere. Everywhere, the left relies on the most bogus economic ideas. It's precisely why the left and anti-capitalists are not our allies, in any sense.
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liberty student: But this is the left everywhere. Everywhere, the left relies on the most bogus economic ideas. It's precisely why the left and anti-capitalists are not our allies, in any sense.
I agree with you except for the "in any sense" part. Much of the left does have dodgy (at best) ideas about economics but I have found them to be quite welcoming to the anarchist ideal of non aggression. Anyone with that as a value can be people that can at least sit down and talk in a reasonable manner.
I have even been able to reason with the "No War But Class War" people...but only a few of them.
But I totally understand your point of view. It's quite disheartening to see so much of that effort of theirs wasted on ideas that will make life worse for so many.
Mr Jones: "... the belief that the market is god is over. It must now be regulated."
This reminds me of what George Reisman wrote awhile back: Basically, collectivists will not be satisfied that slavery fails if there is even the slightest modicum of freedom to take the blame.
the communist version of history relies upon classes but capitalism eliminates the upper class and lower class. under capitalism everyone is middle class by the traditional definition (makes something and trades it).the real upper class are people who lived entirely off the labor of others. the real lower class were people whose labor was taken from them and only given enough back to keep on laboring. to compare capitalism to this and say that business owners are stealing labor from their workers is ignorant. the whole point of capitalism is that people enter into mutually beneficial arrangements voluntarily. the working class poor of america have a higher standard of living than middle class communists.
By the way, Daniel Cohn-Bendit, the genius who claims that "the belief that the market is god is over. It must now be regulated", has recently made headlines with his boorish behavior towards Czech president Václav Klaus:- Vaclav Klaus: Nobody has ever spoken to me here in this tone. You aren't on the barricades of Paris. I have never heard anything so insolent in this hall!- Cohn-Bendit: Naturally, it's the first time that you have met me in this hall...- Vaclav Klaus: What if I were to ask you how the Green Party is financed? We'd learn some interesting things.- Cohn-Bendit: I didn't ask you how you received financing, but what your political relations were with Declan Ganley. It's strange that you associate this with the issue of financing.- Vaclav Klaus: The way Daniel Cohn-Bendit is speaking to me is exactly the way the Soviets used to speak.- Pöttering: To compare the European Union to the USSR is inadmissible!- Vaclav Klaus: I was speaking of the manner of in which he intervenes in the discussion...- Cohn-Bendit: We do not intervene with tanks.We do not intervene with tanks. Keep that in mind.
I eagerly await the day that the guilotine (in a more modern rendition) is prepared for the arrogant eurocrats. BTW, why must the dragon always be taken as a symbol of evil? Such a glorious beast. Rather, it is more like dealing with a rat infestation...
To darkness I condemn you...
Mr Jones: "The market is massively inefficient"
...I think my brain just pulled a muscle.
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