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Superfluous Posted: Fri, Nov 14 2008 8:03 PM

What do you guys think of this?

http://www.reason.com/news/show/130098.html

A new conservative movement that takes libertarian ideas seriously could use the inertia created by the nation's new progressivism to slingshot itself into the future on a platform of reduced government, lower taxes, and limited interventionism, while also respecting climate change (adjusting the tax code to encourage green reform without any expense to taxpayers) and reforming the immigration system (opening the borders as the market demands labor without sacrificing security).

The Republican Party has a chance to transform itself into something it has never been: a party of small government based on classical liberal principles. It doesn't have to be one of David Brooks' visions of the GOP. In fact, if the Republican Party wants to return to power it will recognize the flaws in both approaches, avoid them like Road Runner toying with Wile E. Coyote, and embrace libertarianism instead.

Anthony Randazzo is a research associate at the Reason Foundation.

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This sounds like a bunch of pseudolibertarian banter. You know, I'd be thrilled if a conservative were saying this, because it would show a tendency for conservatives to be less like Bush and more like Goldwater (or better yet: the Old Right). However, it is quite depressing when a self-styled libertarian advocates destructive economic policies like carbon taxes and controlled immigration. It is even more depressing when this "libertarian" calls this a "small government based on classical liberal policies."

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jtucker replied on Fri, Nov 14 2008 9:58 PM

Yeah, doesn't amount to anything. However, aren't we all expecting the GOP to talk a good game for the next four years? All to prepare for the next round of GOP-imposed military dictatorship.

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Wren replied on Sat, Nov 15 2008 1:16 AM

I'd rather Democrats be more libertarian than Republicans and their faux-libertarian values.  The GOP has done enough damage.  That's just my opinion, but who am I kidding, it really makes no difference either way.  The duopoly will always be statist and other parties fail.

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krazy kaju:

This sounds like a bunch of pseudolibertarian banter. You know, I'd be thrilled if a conservative were saying this, because it would show a tendency for conservatives to be less like Bush and more like Goldwater (or better yet: the Old Right). However, it is quite depressing when a self-styled libertarian advocates destructive economic policies like carbon taxes and controlled immigration. It is even more depressing when this "libertarian" calls this a "small government based on classical liberal policies."

This is exactly correct. It'd be great if the Republicans were suggesting moving towards libertarianism, but it's the other way around. As if libertarians haven't made enough concessions to Republicans already, so called "libertarians" are suggesting environmental legislation and interference in the market. However, the GOP simply isn't going to return to the small government party or anything like that, everybody saw how keen they were to shut Ron Paul out and when they included him it wasn't any better.

 

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MacFall replied on Sat, Nov 15 2008 10:00 PM

Superfluous:

What do you guys think of this?

I think that "libertarians" engaging in such political action constitutes a contradiction in terms.

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Twirlcan replied on Sun, Nov 16 2008 2:08 PM

I never trust anyone who announces a "Third Way".  I am sure this term has been used many times before by both the untrustworthy and the well-meaning.

The time I think of when I hear "Third Way" was the American government's policy in Vietnam in the 1950's where the Third Way was to be an independant Vietnam without Communism and without her former colonial masters (the French).   This sounds good on paper but it really meant that the US had to find a non-communist and non-French group of people to prop up.  The one we first settled on was Trinh Minh The, the leader of a Japanese trained Caodaist militia.  He did such pleasant things as set off bicycle bombs in Saigon in the middle of market places so that the French backed government would be discredited and then he would take over the fight against the communists.  Ultimately this did not work at all except for providing a backdrop for Graham Greene's "The Quiet American".

Reason's call for a third way based on state security with a libertarian veneer will probably lead to both the state of security, immigration and the environment all being worse off than before once the libertarian part of the plan is totally done away with.

Clinton , Blair and Petr Stoyanov (of Bulgaria) declared a neo-Liberal, globalisation "third way" as well but that has been doomed to the think tanks of World Federalists.

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Twirlcan:

I never trust anyone who announces a "Third Way".  I am sure this term has been used many times before by both the untrustworthy and the well-meaning.

The time I think of when I hear "Third Way" was the American government's policy in Vietnam in the 1950's where the Third Way was to be an independant Vietnam without Communism and without her former colonial masters (the French).   This sounds good on paper but it really meant that the US had to find a non-communist and non-French group of people to prop up.  The one we first settled on was Trinh Minh The, the leader of a Japanese trained Caodaist militia.  He did such pleasant things as set off bicycle bombs in Saigon in the middle of market places so that the French backed government would be discredited and then he would take over the fight against the communists.  Ultimately this did not work at all except for providing a backdrop for Graham Greene's "The Quiet American".

Reason's call for a third way based on state security with a libertarian veneer will probably lead to both the state of security, immigration and the environment all being worse off than before once the libertarian part of the plan is totally done away with.

Clinton , Blair and Petr Stoyanov (of Bulgaria) declared a neo-Liberal, globalisation "third way" as well but that has been doomed to the think tanks of World Federalists.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Federalist_Association

Those who are not regular Reason readers may not be aware of the way Reason Magazine titles its articles. It picks titles that are deliberately ironic and / or humorous.

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Twirlcan replied on Sun, Nov 16 2008 2:28 PM

ryanpatgray:

 

Those who are not regular Reason readers may not be aware of the way Reason Magazine titles its articles. It picks titles that are deliberately ironic and / or humorous.

 

Ahhh...

I am one of those who was not aware of this.  Thanks for the heads up.

 

 

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