I assumed he was conveying the views of his creator, which, if indeed the case, would betray gross ignorance of Rand's work.
-Jon
To darkness I condemn you...
I'm suprised nobody has said Ron Paul so far, or at least Bob Barr.
Personally I'd mention all the ones that have been said so far: Milton Friedman and Ronald Reagan and Bob Barr of course.
"You don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows"
Bob Dylan
Huge difference between Paul and Barr. I think the nonsense about blaming minarchism on Paul has now passed.
If you find something evil that wobbles, push it. - Gary North
All your social contract theorists, especially Hobbes ( although Locke's labor theory is the basis of An-cap property rights)
The guy who thought it was a good idea to directly elect senators
Aristotle, Plato and Hegel
In government: Newt Gingrich
Democracy is nothing more than replacing bullets with ballots
If Pro is the opposite of Con. What is the opposite of Progress?
Hume and Kant. Anyone curious why, please look at how their metaphysical/epistemological/ethical theories are used in modern academia.
Jon Irenicus: That's really sad. It seems this guy falls in the category of morons who have not taken the time to appreciate and understand her philosophy. -Jon
That's really sad. It seems this guy falls in the category of morons who have not taken the time to appreciate and understand her philosophy.
who? alan moore?I think he raises a valid point. objectivists do possess a tendency to "defend the elite" in hopes that oneday they may perhaps themselves become it.
I dont think there is much more to it than that.
Which elite?
GilesStratton: I'm suprised nobody has said Ron Paul so far, or at least Bob Barr. Personally I'd mention all the ones that have been said so far: Milton Friedman and Ronald Reagan and Bob Barr of course.
bob barr isn't well known enough to have a negative influence.
ron paul, perhaps among some people. namely hispanics, feminists, people of other races,and what not.
he is kind of a caricature...
Jon Irenicus: Which elite? -Jon
who is john gault?
That's not exactly a bad thing to aspire to... Randians hold to a perfectionist ethic.
Jon Irenicus: That's not exactly a bad thing to aspire to... Randians hold to a perfectionist ethic. -Jon
yeah. and they're willing to bomb the hell out of other people and exploit as much of the poor as they want to, to get it.
http://www.aynrand.org/site/News2?page=NewsArticle&id=19681&news_iv_ctrl=1021
Then you mean Randroids, because it certainly isn't part of her philosophy.
Don't forget Johann Gottlieb Fichte.
Anton Sugar:ron paul, perhaps among some people. namely hispanics, feminists, people of other races,and what not.
There was this guy on this forum named Niccollo, I liked to call him Nicky, like I would if he was my son.
He would say stupid things like Paul has turned off hispanics and feminists, based upon his own collectivist perception of how Paul's message would reasonate with those groups. Ironically, like the newsletters, I never saw the blowback from anyone except caucasians, who have been over-socialized to be PC and totally fearful and moronic about anything they are told could be racist, sexist, etc. At the Rally for the Republic, there were blacks, muslims and hispanics. They didn't seem overly concerned about going to an event full of white supremacists [sic], that damn freedom message keeps bringing people together.
Except the guilty caucasians, who freaked out over the TV ad more than any hispanic probably did.
Anyway, Nicky got banned because he disrespected the people who run and maintain this place. And he couldn't spell Galt either. I really miss him. You would have liked him.
Jon Irenicus: Then you mean Randroids, because it certainly isn't part of her philosophy. -Jon
o rly?
Is that why she supports Israel on the basis of it being a gracious westernization of otherwise "primitive" societies? (her sentiments, not mine)
Pretty much, yes. If they're too dimwitted to see her own inconsistencies and errors, they are Randroids.
liberty student: Anton Sugar:ron paul, perhaps among some people. namely hispanics, feminists, people of other races,and what not. There was this guy on this forum named Niccollo, I liked to call him Nicky, like I would if he was my son. He would say stupid things like Paul has turned off hispanics and feminists, based upon his own collectivist perception of how Paul's message would reasonate with those groups. Ironically, like the newsletters, I never saw the blowback from anyone except caucasians, who have been over-socialized to be PC and totally fearful and moronic about anything they are told could be racist, sexist, etc. At the Rally for the Republic, there were blacks, muslims and hispanics. They didn't seem overly concerned about going to an event full of white supremacists [sic], that damn freedom message keeps bringing people together. Except the guilty caucasians, who freaked out over the TV ad more than any hispanic probably did. Anyway, Nicky got banned because he disrespected the people who run and maintain this place. And he couldn't spell Galt either. I really miss him. You would have liked him.
that's not what i've heard from daily conversations with actual hispanics who are immediately turned off to him once they hear "follow the law or you're out." Most seem to feel that his push to nationalize the language is ethnocentric too.
i don't particularly view ron paul as the ultimate voice of freedom either. The whole "freedom message" doesn't seem to apply to people born in another land, I guess.
Jon Irenicus: Pretty much, yes. If they're too dimwitted to see her own inconsistencies and errors, they are Randroids. -Jon
sounds like picking and choosing what you want to listen to, to me.
why not go with a better alternative for egoism? Try Max Stirner.
Sounds like taking her philosophy, and not her personal fetishes, at face value, to me. No philosophical system can be "closed". No, I'll stick with Rand and Aristotle, TYVM.
Jon Irenicus: Sounds like taking her philosophy, and not her personal fetishes, at face value, to me. No philosophical system can be "closed". No, I'll stick with Rand and Aristotle, TYVM. -Jon
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