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Bimetallism and market distortion question.

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No2statism posted on Mon, Jul 30 2012 1:32 PM

If a govt took 10% of all the silver bullion (by weight and purity) that came into its borders and 10% of all the gold bullon (by weight and purity) that left its borders (or vice versa[?]), and spent them as if they were equal... then would both, one, or neither of those distort the market as much as the same govt assigning bullion arbitrary value?  I was thinking both ways would distort the market a large amount, but I can't really pin point why I think that.

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Well, first, there would be market distortions because of the mere fact of confiscation of some of the supply of these commodities. That would tend to raise the prices or relative values of the metals, just as taxes raise prices (or costs actually, but whatever).

Second... well I'm not sure what you mean when you say if they spent the gold and silver if it were equal. There would clearly be a distortion (as well as coercion) if the government, bought 1 good X for 1 oz. gold and also bought another unit of the same good X for one oz. silver, since as far as I know, the market hasn't ever held the value of one oz. of silver to be equal with one oz. of gold.

Perhaps you could elaborate on what you mean by this.

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Right, so in that case, the distortion stems basically from the fact that coercion is used to stop market actors from trading only market value. And unless the State only confiscated an approximately equal amount of wealth (in gold and silver) and then only forced sales of goods equal in that value, the distortions might be even greater, not only to the prices of gold and silver, or the goods and services they purchase, but it would likely ripple out the distortions to all other goods and services. Of course, since it needs to coerce to maintain such a policy, we can assume that it wouldn't be equal in value. And on top of that, looking at the State's ability to manage finances (whether in the policies of the spending of the legislature or the central planning of the FED), we can also safely assume they couldn't manage even approximate equivalences in value even if they tried, but this may just be due to the fact that without economic liberty and the ability of a market to function and develop freely, it's practically impossible.

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Well, first, there would be market distortions because of the mere fact of confiscation of some of the supply of these commodities. That would tend to raise the prices or relative values of the metals, just as taxes raise prices (or costs actually, but whatever).

Second... well I'm not sure what you mean when you say if they spent the gold and silver if it were equal. There would clearly be a distortion (as well as coercion) if the government, bought 1 good X for 1 oz. gold and also bought another unit of the same good X for one oz. silver, since as far as I know, the market hasn't ever held the value of one oz. of silver to be equal with one oz. of gold.

Perhaps you could elaborate on what you mean by this.

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Thanks for answering: ) I meant those who sold to the state would have to accept whatever it offered as they do now... except they could only be offered gold and silver.

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Right, so in that case, the distortion stems basically from the fact that coercion is used to stop market actors from trading only market value. And unless the State only confiscated an approximately equal amount of wealth (in gold and silver) and then only forced sales of goods equal in that value, the distortions might be even greater, not only to the prices of gold and silver, or the goods and services they purchase, but it would likely ripple out the distortions to all other goods and services. Of course, since it needs to coerce to maintain such a policy, we can assume that it wouldn't be equal in value. And on top of that, looking at the State's ability to manage finances (whether in the policies of the spending of the legislature or the central planning of the FED), we can also safely assume they couldn't manage even approximate equivalences in value even if they tried, but this may just be due to the fact that without economic liberty and the ability of a market to function and develop freely, it's practically impossible.

The only one worth following is the one who leads... not the one who pulls; for it is not the direction that condemns the puller, it is the rope that he holds.

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