libertarianpaternalist:Or as Micheal Shermer, editor of Skeptic Magazine, wrote in his book Why People Believe In Weird Things "Objectivism is the most unlikely of cults"
If you guys don't mind changing the topic a little bit -- I think we have beaten him too much with the monopoly thing :) -- I wonder why Objectivism is seen as a cult. I've only read Atlas Shrugged from Ayn Rand and it seemed more like offering a different perspective in the role of government and the individual. It didn't strike me as different as Progressivism and related philosophies that advocate it's demeaning for people to do charity, and they should instead advocate government to step in, raising everybody's taxes. I certainely didn't got her evil, cold-hearted accusations; she just seemed to advocate to let people alone to pursuit their values and that people should pursuit their values, and she even gave examples of charitable action in the John Galt speech. She uses the word selfish in a broaded sense, as it was my understanding of that particular book.
Anyway, I'm not aware of the activities from any Ayn Rand groups -- is it some network like the Freemasons with some rituals and stuff? maybe smoking dollar-signed cigarettes? :).
Equality before the law and material equality are not only different but are in conflict with each other; and we can achieve either one or the other, but not both at the same time. -- F. A. Hayek in The Constitution of Liberty
BlackSheep: libertarianpaternalist:Or as Micheal Shermer, editor of Skeptic Magazine, wrote in his book Why People Believe In Weird Things "Objectivism is the most unlikely of cults" If you guys don't mind changing the topic a little bit -- I think we have beaten him too much with the monopoly thing :) -- I wonder why Objectivism is seen as a cult. I've only read Atlas Shrugged from Ayn Rand and it seemed more like offering a different perspective in the role of government and the individual. It didn't strike me as different as Progressivism and related philosophies that advocate it's demeaning for people to do charity, and they should instead advocate government to step in, raising everybody's taxes. I certainely didn't got her evil, cold-hearted accusations; she just seemed to advocate to let people alone to pursuit their values and that people should pursuit their values, and she even gave examples of charitable action in the John Galt speech. She uses the word selfish in a broaded sense, as it was my understanding of that particular book. Anyway, I'm not aware of the activities from any Ayn Rand groups -- is it some network like the Freemasons with some rituals and stuff? maybe smoking dollar-signed cigarettes? :).
Her actions, unfortunately, spoke loader than her words. The exact details could probably be explained by someone who lived through it (I'm sure there are some old (ex-, neo-, post-, etc.) Objectivsts hanging out here ).
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Ha ha, I was an Objectivist for about 2 days until I found this site, It really is contradictory. Respect Individualism, but if a country is an enemy you can kill every last man, woman and child in that country because they somehow let the evils of that government exist. If there are any Iraqi objectivists we better watch out because they are going to kill every single american because we let our government exist.
Objectivist=libertarian terrorist(oxymoron)
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Yeah, it amazes me how collectivist Randroids (note: these aren't real Objectivists) become when it comes to national defence and the like.
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