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Massacre at Fort Hood and its repurcussions

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Capital Pumper Posted: Fri, Nov 6 2009 5:01 AM

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A nationalist rallying point never fails to bring out people's true colours. I see this incident is already being used as pretext to dehumanize an entire group of people. A couple of people I'm acquainted with have labeled the shooter as "another Muslim fanatic". They try to justify their call to arms sentiment of indignation through special pleading, "they've dehumanized themselves!" It's a wonder people churn out such rhetoric, when the historical consequences of the us vs them mentality are crystal clear.

 

 

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How about this:  we stay over here, they stay over there, and then things like adjustment disorder, inter-tribal conflict, and imperialist wars are reduced if not eliminated.

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12-13 dead, 30 wounded. 

Sounds to me like a slow Tuesday for the Predator crowd in the Pashtun valleys.

At least all of those killed at Ft. Hood were either soldiers pure and clean, or had taken it upon themselves to work at a military installation.

As much as I feel for the families of the victims, and am saddened by the violence in general, I have to say that this strike was probably more legitimate in the context of the war than most of the strikes being carried out in Iraq and Afghanistan by both sides.  It's certainly a lot more legitimate than both the US's use of air power or the truck bombs in marketplaces.

 

 

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EinarFridgeirs:

12-13 dead, 30 wounded. 

Sounds to me like a slow Tuesday for the Predator crowd in the Pashtun valleys.

Nicely put!

Military robots are one kind of "enemy combatant" I have no qualms about "dehumanizing".

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Saan replied on Fri, Nov 6 2009 9:44 AM

EinarFridgeirs:
At least all of those killed

That's how the Soldiers think of Hadji. Are you like a Soldier?

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Saan replied on Fri, Nov 6 2009 9:47 AM

EinarFridgeirs:

As much as I feel for the families of the victims, and am saddened by the violence in general, I have to say that this strike was probably more legitimate in the context of the war than most of the strikes being carried out in Iraq and Afghanistan by both sides.  It's certainly a lot more legitimate than both the US's use of air power or the truck bombs in marketplaces.

 

If it was a military strike, it was brilliant.

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DD5 replied on Fri, Nov 6 2009 9:49 AM
Why isn't anybody talking about the need for more gun control for military personnel?
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Giant_Joe replied on Fri, Nov 6 2009 12:01 PM

DD5:
Why isn't anybody talking about the need for more gun control for military personnel?

I'm stealing this quote from you.

The appeal to "charity" is a truly ironic one. First, it is hardly "charity" to take wealth by force and hand it over to someone else. -Rothbard

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Daniel replied on Fri, Nov 6 2009 3:06 PM

I like this one too: "So when are we getting gun control for the army?"

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Marko replied on Fri, Nov 6 2009 6:05 PM

It is strange to see all this hulaboo around Ft. Hood but in earlier similar incidents there was barely a yawn. Where was all this coverage when the recruiting office in Little Rock got shot up etc?

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Daniel replied on Fri, Nov 6 2009 6:16 PM

Marko:

It is strange to see all this hulaboo around Ft. Hood but in earlier similar incidents there was barely a yawn. Where was all this coverage when the recruiting office in Little Rock got shot up etc?

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What does this say about the Iraq war? Simply put that it is so horrible that men are willing to kill their peers and compatriots to resist it, substituting a lesser hell for a greater one.

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Laughing Man:
What does this say about the Iraq war? Simply put that it is so horrible that men are willing to kill their peers and compatriots to resist it, substituting a lesser hell for a greater one.
Maybe if they had just asked him: "dude is it cool if you go to the mideast for a while" he would have said no and this whole thing would be averted.

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Snowflake:
Maybe if they had just asked him: "dude is it cool if you go to the mideast for a while" he would have said no and this whole thing would be averted.

The military doesn't ask, it demands.

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Some military thug killed some other military thugs.  OMG, SUrPRISE!

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Marko replied on Fri, Nov 6 2009 7:49 PM

Daniel:

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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31048825/

One soldier dead, one wounded. By one Abdulhakim Mujahid Muhammad just a few months ago.

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tmeyer replied on Fri, Nov 6 2009 8:26 PM

Those who pursue power need an excuse to pursue it. They need an enemy to "protect" the people from. And of course, most people value their "security" over their freedom. Whenever the state tells the people that they need to be protected, history will be ignored.

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Stephen replied on Fri, Nov 6 2009 8:43 PM

Snowflake:

Laughing Man:
What does this say about the Iraq war? Simply put that it is so horrible that men are willing to kill their peers and compatriots to resist it, substituting a lesser hell for a greater one.
Maybe if they had just asked him: "dude is it cool if you go to the mideast for a while" he would have said no and this whole thing would be averted.

And maybe he should have never joined if he couldn't hack it. Shouldn't you be ready to be sent into combat if you join the army? Duh!

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Stephen replied on Fri, Nov 6 2009 8:51 PM

Saan:

EinarFridgeirs:
At least all of those killed

That's how the Soldiers think of Hadji. Are you like a Soldier?

I think he is, only he's fighting for good instead of evil, and w/ the keyboard instead of the sword.

Hey, that sounds like something a politically correct democratic socialist would ask. Are you a politically correct democratic socialist?

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Stephen:
And maybe he should have never joined if he couldn't hack it. Shouldn't you be ready to be sent into combat if you join the army? Duh!

Right, hearing about hell for several years then being told you are going there is something one can prepare for.

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