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Why are libertarians just a bunch of white guys

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Cork replied on Sun, Nov 1 2009 3:15 PM

Jews aren't exactly stereotyped as associating with blacks/hispanics.

They hate Jews one way or the other.  They deny that even Ashkenazi Jews are 'white.'

Not that it matters.  They're a bunch of irrelevant nuts.

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Vitor replied on Sun, Nov 1 2009 3:17 PM

Fephisto:

Snowflake:

Mises, Rothbard, DiLorenzo, Murphy, Kinsella, Ayn Rand... Why are libertarians all white and all male?

At a superficial level, we may be weakened by lack of diversity. How do we account for this?

I have some answers. I just want to know what mises.org thinks.

The only non-white libertarian I can think of are de Soto (depends if you count him as 'hispanic') and Walter Williams.  So I don't have an answer for your question.  But then again, I personally could care less about the demographics of the movement.

If you mean Jesus Huerta de Soto, he is quite white as any one born from native european parents in an european country.

 

 

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Daniel replied on Sun, Nov 1 2009 3:27 PM

Snowflake:

Mises, Rothbard, DiLorenzo, Murphy, Kinsella, Ayn Rand... Why are libertarians all white and all male?

At a superficial level, we may be weakened by lack of diversity. How do we account for this?

I have some answers. I just want to know what mises.org thinks.

Ayn Rand a libertarian?

Anyway, Tom Woods is part Armenian.

Btw, here are pics from Austrian/libertarian events:

 

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Daniel replied on Sun, Nov 1 2009 3:39 PM

 

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Marko replied on Sun, Nov 1 2009 3:39 PM

Nobody cares. "White" is an irrelevant category in terms of which only the New Worlders think anyway. If you are a Greek (for example) every non-Greek is equally foreign to you, wether they be white Americans, black Americans, the Irish or the Japanese.

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Thanks for the photos daniel.

I guess the next step in the analysis would be statistics.

It would be nice if we could at least refute the claim that libertarian followers weren't all white men.

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Seriously, I'm sure you have better things to do...? is this some weird kind of liberal guilt you are feeling about the issue.?

As they say here in blighty, 'chin up'

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Juan replied on Sun, Nov 1 2009 4:05 PM
Daniel, what's the name of the black guy in your photos ? "Token" maybe ? =P

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Slavs are slavs when they're picked on as a racial or ethnic group. Same goes for Jews, Anglos, etc...

But if any of these people have good things happen to them, they are suddenly considered "white"

It's very arbitrary and stupid.

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Juan:
Daniel, what's the name of the black guy in your photos ? "Token" maybe ? =P

juan, you are giving away that they all look alike to you 

Stick out tongue 

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TG4f9zR5yzY&feature=player_embedded

if you fancy a chuckle; louis c.k. on 'being white'

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nirgrahamUK:

Seriously, I'm sure you have better things to do...? is this some weird kind of liberal guilt you are feeling about the issue.?

As they say here in blighty, 'chin up'

Kek. I just thought i'd start the discussion and see what popped out. Its a lame issue but its one libertarians are slammed with by uneducated liberals.

 

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. Where as the white child sees both sides as equally valid in terms of race and acts accordingly and is therefore more likley to drift twoards us.
Don't middle class whites also have an interest group that appeals to them (republicans)?. Vote-buying alone doesn't explain it, since virtually every social group gets lip service from the two political parties.

Irrelevant. Republicans do have the upper hand in this respect, why do you think that there are about 50 times more republicans than libertarians? I attempted to show that not only do African Americans have ro deal with seriouse "vote buying" but it seems to be engrained within the entire black community. You're African American, you owe pretty much all your rights and all you own to the democrates (or so the thought goes) while if you're white and middle class you can't say this about either of the parties and you can be more objective. It doesnt explain for all of this, but it does for a great deal

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Saan replied on Mon, Nov 2 2009 11:06 AM

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Where as the white child sees both sides as equally valid in terms of race and acts accordingly and is therefore more likley to drift twoards us.

The white child (women aside) is taught by the state to hate himself for being white and being a man.  The black, mexican ad infintum child is taught to hate himself because he is a man, but also taught to hate white men.  It's sickening and insidious.

This place is great because really no one gives a shit about  man, woman, black, white, Canadian, German, Spanish, Aregentinian, or any other group identity.  If your ideas are sound and you display, for lack of a better term. manners then you are not painted as some demon that only wants to rape and pillage. Rather refreshing. A venue were ideas can actually be explored instead of destroyed.

 

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Slavs are slavs when they're picked on as a racial or ethnic group. Same goes for Jews, Anglos, etc...

They are, technically speaking, all caucasian/caucasoid (Jews are a bit more complicated on the other hand, they're not necessarily caucasian.) 'White' is a social construct used by the PC group to practise reverse discrimination. It'll be inconvenient eventually because how are they to deal with south-east Asian 'exploiters'? Other than marketing purposes I don't really give a shit about how 'diverse' the movement is. The more people who buy into libertarian ideas the better. Their colour is irrelevant. If they all happen to be caucasian, or asian, or whatever, I don't care. Mimicry is the only way to succeed once libertarian ideas are adopted and eventually those who don't will fall behind.

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Saan:

The white child (women aside) is taught by the state to hate himself for being white and being a man.  The black, mexican ad infintum child is taught to hate himself because he is a man, but also taught to hate white men.  It's sickening and insidious.

True. This is where some of Rand's stuff is great to quote. Every time someone acts, identifies themselves, or labels others based upon the choices of their ansestors they have raped and made a mokery of their own judgement, reason, and beliefs. I hate to say my quote above but I do believe it is a misguided sense of community and loyalty that drives so many African Americans and most minorities to be so set upon Liberalism.

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Saan replied on Mon, Nov 2 2009 1:54 PM

The Late Andrew Ryan:
True. This is where some of Rand's stuff is great to quote.

I can't quote it, but I read her fiction in high school.  I've read the rest since, I think she is off in some places, but spot on others.  Like your entire post above.

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Technically, Europeans, Indians, and middle easterners are all caucasoids.  They are not all white, but they belong to the (controversial) caucasian race.

Jon Irenicus:
Other than marketing purposes I don't really give a shit about how 'diverse' the movement is. The more people who buy into libertarian ideas the better. Their colour is irrelevant. If they all happen to be caucasian, or asian, or whatever, I don't care. Mimicry is the only way to succeed once libertarian ideas are adopted and eventually those who don't will fall behind.

This ^^

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'White' is just a rather silly label which is meant to designate European caucasoids.

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1) Men are more assertive and adventure seeking.  Women, being less so, have a greater tendency to accept whatever is already popular (among men, firstly).

2) Geographical locations with bright skin colour have more libertarian heritage.

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