Really, I hate how the U.S' society is the only one so stuck up on how Marijuana is "harmful" "addictive" and a "gateway drug".
Seriously, why do people overreact so much over it? Its not even as bad a "drug" as Nicotine, Fast Food, Narcotics, Cocaine, Crack, Heroine, and Tobacco.
Its great stuff, its relaxing and it has many medical benefits. Legalize it.
What really gets me is how, if I went to Germany and smoked people would be like "Ah, ok, cool" where in the U.S people are like "ZOMG!!! YOUR GONNA GO DOWN THE WRONG PATH IN LIFE NOW!111!".
I'm sick of Democracy for Breakfast. Every day, same old Democracy. Democracy with toast. Democracy with Bacon. Democracy Benedict. Scrambled Democracy.. .where will it end?
No, really, I agree. The gateway drug stuff really has been oversold and carries "Everybody knows" status now. It's sick.
Let me assure you, it's exactly the same in Germany. It all depends on the people you hang out with, but if we talk about society in general, it's the same hypocrisy around here.
Australia and New Zealand on the other hand...they seem to be more relaxed about this. I've hardly met anybody who didn't smoke over there.
Democracy for Breakfast:Really, I hate how the U.S' society is the only one so stuck up on how Marijuana is "harmful" "addictive" and a "gateway drug". Seriously, why do people overreact so much over it? Its not even as bad a "drug" as Nicotine, Fast Food, Narcotics, Cocaine, Crack, Heroine, and Tobacco. Its great stuff, its relaxing and it has many medical benefits. Legalize it. What really gets me is how, if I went to Germany and smoked people would be like "Ah, ok, cool" where in the U.S people are like "ZOMG!!! YOUR GONNA GO DOWN THE WRONG PATH IN LIFE NOW!111!".
All the statists and Keynesians will look up and shout "Save Us!" and I'll wisper "No."
The Late Andrew Ryan: Democracy for Breakfast: Really, I hate how the U.S' society is the only one so stuck up on how Marijuana is "harmful" "addictive" and a "gateway drug". Seriously, why do people overreact so much over it? Its not even as bad a "drug" as Nicotine, Fast Food, Narcotics, Cocaine, Crack, Heroine, and Tobacco. Its great stuff, its relaxing and it has many medical benefits. Legalize it. What really gets me is how, if I went to Germany and smoked people would be like "Ah, ok, cool" where in the U.S people are like "ZOMG!!! YOUR GONNA GO DOWN THE WRONG PATH IN LIFE NOW!111!". Well I tend to be one of those "stuck up bastards" because I like being in my own mind (this applies to ALL mind altering drugs) I would find it personally shameful. However 1. I don't support kidnapping an murdering over it 2. I don't particularly mind it in others I just consider it a bad habit if they use it mildly. It really does depend who you talk to I have plenty of buddies who would love to smoke with you. There is no medical reason to outlaw marijuana, NONE
Democracy for Breakfast: Really, I hate how the U.S' society is the only one so stuck up on how Marijuana is "harmful" "addictive" and a "gateway drug". Seriously, why do people overreact so much over it? Its not even as bad a "drug" as Nicotine, Fast Food, Narcotics, Cocaine, Crack, Heroine, and Tobacco. Its great stuff, its relaxing and it has many medical benefits. Legalize it. What really gets me is how, if I went to Germany and smoked people would be like "Ah, ok, cool" where in the U.S people are like "ZOMG!!! YOUR GONNA GO DOWN THE WRONG PATH IN LIFE NOW!111!".
I hope you mean, that there is no "harmful" medical reasons. It all depends on control. Smoking Marijuana under control can be good. I just think its really shallow to judge it like this girl did unless you have actually smoked it. Its statist propaganda like DARE in action or Above The Influence that annoy the hell out of me.
I am starting to re-think the advocacy of legalizing Marijuana. Its best if it remains in a sort of gray area legally, or you're just giving the state a new thing to sin tax. I'm also a bit amused that alot of the legalize weed people have no problem with all the anti-smoking, anti-tobacco laws. I guess some vices are cooler than others?
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sicsempertyrannis:I am starting to re-think the advocacy of legalizing Marijuana. Its best if it remains in a sort of gray area legally, or you're just giving the state a new thing to sin tax. I'm also a bit amused that alot of the legalize weed people have no problem with all the anti-smoking, anti-tobacco laws. I guess some vices are cooler than others?
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Snowflake: Big businesses typically fire you if you ever test positive for illegal drugs. As a result, I can't smoke pot. It needs to be legalized for reasons other than its direct cost.
Big businesses typically fire you if you ever test positive for illegal drugs. As a result, I can't smoke pot. It needs to be legalized for reasons other than its direct cost.
Absent its illegality, that may not change. Businesses may not want drug users working for them for liability reasons. Drug decriminalization doesnt mean the world is going to become some sort of libertarian drug paradise.
sicsempertyrannis:Absent its illegality, that may not change. Businesses may not want drug users working for them for liability reasons. Drug decriminalization doesnt mean the world is going to become some sort of libertarian drug paradise.
You can throw in caffeine, too. It's one of the most abused substances. It's insane! Ban caffeine, legalize ganja!
What I cant understand is how pot is a illegal dopping, anything that you smoke harms your lungs,even if just a little.
Democracy for Breakfast: The Late Andrew Ryan: Democracy for Breakfast: Really, I hate how the U.S' society is the only one so stuck up on how Marijuana is "harmful" "addictive" and a "gateway drug". Seriously, why do people overreact so much over it? Its not even as bad a "drug" as Nicotine, Fast Food, Narcotics, Cocaine, Crack, Heroine, and Tobacco. Its great stuff, its relaxing and it has many medical benefits. Legalize it. What really gets me is how, if I went to Germany and smoked people would be like "Ah, ok, cool" where in the U.S people are like "ZOMG!!! YOUR GONNA GO DOWN THE WRONG PATH IN LIFE NOW!111!". Well I tend to be one of those "stuck up bastards" because I like being in my own mind (this applies to ALL mind altering drugs) I would find it personally shameful. However 1. I don't support kidnapping an murdering over it 2. I don't particularly mind it in others I just consider it a bad habit if they use it mildly. It really does depend who you talk to I have plenty of buddies who would love to smoke with you. There is no medical reason to outlaw marijuana, NONE I hope you mean, that there is no "harmful" medical reasons. It all depends on control. Smoking Marijuana under control can be good. I just think its really shallow to judge it like this girl did unless you have actually smoked it. Its statist propaganda like DARE in action or Above The Influence that annoy the hell out of me.
Unless you're talking about someone who's under an extreme amount of pain, I think you're going to have to explain yourself.
sicsempertyrannis: I am starting to re-think the advocacy of legalizing Marijuana. Its best if it remains in a sort of gray area legally, or you're just giving the state a new thing to sin tax.
I am starting to re-think the advocacy of legalizing Marijuana. Its best if it remains in a sort of gray area legally, or you're just giving the state a new thing to sin tax.
Democracy, I'm not sure, are we talking about the prohibition of marijuana or are you just critical of a value judgement of 'society'?
Adding my own personal contribution, I would say that as a marijuana smoker (which I am assuming you are) you are indeed going down the wrong path in life, you choose to be mentally disabled - to lose grasp of reality, all for a quick high. There is nothing more precious than reason, and the purposeful suppression of reason seems absurd to me.
I'm sick of statists in general. Especially the scam artists who try to weave apologia for it.
To darkness I condemn you...
JackSkylark: Democracy, I'm not sure, are we talking about the prohibition of marijuana or are you just critical of a value judgement of 'society'? Adding my own personal contribution, I would say that as a marijuana smoker (which I am assuming you are) you are indeed going down the wrong path in life, you choose to be mentally disabled - to lose grasp of reality, all for a quick high. There is nothing more precious than reason, and the purposeful suppression of reason seems absurd to me.
You ever smoked? There's different kinds of marijuana strains and they will give you different feelings. I've never lost grasp of reality or reason at all. Just got hungry, music sounded a bit better, thinking of new creative ideas was easier, and I was more aware of my surroundings, not less.. Comparing it to mental disability is nonsense.
I dunno maybe you think a marijuana high and a man whos drunk is the same thing? Just wondering how you got to that conclusion.
What do you think happens when someone ingests something like magic mushrooms? If your answer is the same "they're choosing to be mentally disabled"- well then you'll have to ask why so many people who've taken something like magic mushrooms have said that its changed their lives around? Well because something like mushrooms can remove all the emotional blocks in your head- and turns out to be very therapeutic. Hard to explain to someone who hasn't tried it or throws all of these things in the category of "Drugs are all bad".
Marko: sicsempertyrannis: I am starting to re-think the advocacy of legalizing Marijuana. Its best if it remains in a sort of gray area legally, or you're just giving the state a new thing to sin tax. Taking that to its conclusion you would also have to favour tobacco and alcohol becoming gray areas rather than be subject to sin taxation.
With all the taxes levied on (especially) tobacco nowadays, it might lower the costs some.
And all meant by my comment is the situation with 'medical' marijuana in California is nearly the right amount of 'gray'. The medical reasons people are getting it for are so flimsy that pot is almost defacto legal in some part of California. In some cities in norcal there is little to no enforcement. Now, make it all legal and watch costs rise and quality fall as the state moves in with their own cartels, sin taxes, etc etc. You think the BATFE (who would presumably get jurisdiction) still wouldnt kick in your door over the 'unauthorized' weed being grown in your closet?
Seph: Democracy for Breakfast: The Late Andrew Ryan: Democracy for Breakfast: Really, I hate how the U.S' society is the only one so stuck up on how Marijuana is "harmful" "addictive" and a "gateway drug". Seriously, why do people overreact so much over it? Its not even as bad a "drug" as Nicotine, Fast Food, Narcotics, Cocaine, Crack, Heroine, and Tobacco. Its great stuff, its relaxing and it has many medical benefits. Legalize it. What really gets me is how, if I went to Germany and smoked people would be like "Ah, ok, cool" where in the U.S people are like "ZOMG!!! YOUR GONNA GO DOWN THE WRONG PATH IN LIFE NOW!111!". Well I tend to be one of those "stuck up bastards" because I like being in my own mind (this applies to ALL mind altering drugs) I would find it personally shameful. However 1. I don't support kidnapping an murdering over it 2. I don't particularly mind it in others I just consider it a bad habit if they use it mildly. It really does depend who you talk to I have plenty of buddies who would love to smoke with you. There is no medical reason to outlaw marijuana, NONE I hope you mean, that there is no "harmful" medical reasons. It all depends on control. Smoking Marijuana under control can be good. I just think its really shallow to judge it like this girl did unless you have actually smoked it. Its statist propaganda like DARE in action or Above The Influence that annoy the hell out of me. Unless you're talking about someone who's under an extreme amount of pain, I think you're going to have to explain yourself.
It relaxes you, makes food taste better, and makes you appreciate music more. Your thoughts become more analytical.
Thats pretty ignorant. You can't compare it to being mentally disabled. Your probably thinking of a burnout. A burnout is someone who smokes everyday for a long period of time, and in that case they can't stop smoking. After a month, the "burnout" wears off. However, burnouts generally need to gain access to other drugs when they longer get their high. In which case, that is the person, not the Marijuana doing it to them. I am going to school, and get good grades most of the time, because I have the will to stay in school. A lot of the people that you consider "mentally disabled" are the ones who don't have the will to go to school, and would rather party instead.
Please don't judge unless you have smoked it.
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