I went to the G20 riots tonight they were absolutely insane.
But I was wondering if anyone was going to be going down sept 25, or friday as their are more protests.
If anyone is interested beyond that I got some stories, but my main question was re: whether or not any other people will be down there or not.
Be safe Eric.
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I was, I backed off when they told me to some of my friends weren't as lucky.
When I was 15 or so, I went to an anti-war rally for the Gulf War. It was about 50 of us, and we marched what seemed like 10 clicks then made asses of ourselves outside the local air cadet building.
But since then, I have avoided doing any protesting.
1. It is dangerous
2. It's never wise to attract attention of the state
3A. Protesting the state, presumes the state has power. I believe that the way to defeat the state is to secede (establish alternative institutions) not to stand around and yell at cops in riot gear and shake my fist at politicians. When they show up, and no one protests because the G20 is irrelevant, that's when we have won.
3B. Protesting something like the G20 is a media circus, with lots of provocateurs. None of these protests every change anything and good people get hurt.
As I said, I did my activism thing once. I understand the call to it. I understand the passions behind it.
But mobs are dangerous, and the return on the risk seems very small to me.
So please be safe. Your efforts are needed in the future, and getting a brain injury from a club, or ending up on a no-fly list, are things that are not easily undone, if at all.
I kind of went to check things out for the most part as I've never been to a real rally like this before. Re: 3a I hear you most protesters were people saying how we need democracy yada yada.
Alot of the protesters were anarchists, primitivists as many of them had green flags, so I mean really the g20 makes anarchy look worse, as many of the people who were with me were strawmanning anarchy all night, lol
But thanks for your advice, it is duly noted.
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Eric: ...many of them had green flags...
...many of them had green flags...
that's interesting cause the current Iranian revolution has been called the "Green revolution" (they have green flags and such). Colour revolution
idk why they would have green flags at the G20 - do you?
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I agree with Liberty Student, besides these protesters are portrayed as 'anti-capitalistic' by the MSM.
If you must go, bring a vid cam and capture images of our glorious police state in action.
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like this:
Isn't this when self-defense is called for? I was thinking anybody that was standing up for justice had every right to jump in and stop these military men from taking this person.
edit: And by the way, this is why waiting for the next of kin or some authority from some other person not within geographical proximity isn't coherent to justice in my opinion. If anybody has every been around dangerous people you would know it's not the time to think about who to contact, but on how to defend liberty. And I consider helping out another person being initially aggressed against within my natural rights. I can volunteer. It is of my liberty to do so. And in this instance it appears any person coming to this person's aid would have stood for justice.
I really thought these videos were isolated incidents but they really are not. Btw I wasn't really protesting I was just checking things outs, but yea, lol
wilderness: And in this instance it appears any person coming to this person's aid would have stood for justice.
And in this instance it appears any person coming to this person's aid would have stood for justice.
I wouldn't hold my breath, for that to happen anytime soon. Its become customary for protesters to remain idle in the face of moral transgression. Justice to them is indignation, and expressing that indignation is sophomoric ways. It makes me think what goes in the contemporary protester's head, after he's dispersed from the scene of "activism".
On side note: get a load of the YT comments.
You know what really would frighten them, if the protestors just marched in a perfect square grid. That would show them the resistance has organization and they can't just send camo-clad goons to abduct people out of the crowd.
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wilderness: like this: Isn't this when self-defense is called for? I was thinking anybody that was standing up for justice had every right to jump in and stop these military men from taking this person. edit: And by the way, this is why waiting for the next of kin or some authority from some other person not within geographical proximity isn't coherent to justice in my opinion. If anybody has every been around dangerous people you would know it's not the time to think about who to contact, but on how to defend liberty. And I consider helping out another person being initially aggressed against within my natural rights. I can volunteer. It is of my liberty to do so. And in this instance it appears any person coming to this person's aid would have stood for justice.
One kid walked up to the car, then he stopped, and than held his hands up. For a quick second, you can see one government cop pointing a rifle at the kid.
yeah, the Military State is here. it's only going to grow more balls, excuse the language, but it's true unless what we all want - liberty minded - get a wave of change to happen. so the military or at least dressed like them - initiated the aggression. i read on the youtube comments somebody saying this person that was taken has a record but these guys didn't identify themselves and rationale their actions. It was beastly. Drive in, pull out a gun, and shove the person in the car - all quickly. If other people tried to stop them - would they really explain themselves or would they have simply shot at the people or tried to do bodily harm. That's the problem when individuals are given artificially power over others. They go into situations with this full-authority mentality and don't have to reason with anybody. They feel they are in power and can do whatever they want. And it is granted to them with consent. So they don't need to identify themselves and explain anything. They can simply dive in, and take a person off to who knows where. Even if this person was a criminal (that the military or whoever it was that did the taking of said person), the problem I see is they can initiate aggression upon a person without full disclosure of their actions. It is brute force. It's like a bear running through my yard and me trying to say stop - you can't reason with these type of brute mentalities.
ah, i see it now. i didn't at first. somebody was going to help him and that government cop pointed a gun at him. thanks for the heads up
apparently they declared martial law in Pittsburgh, they are shooting pepper spray in the dorms, and are going nuts. Both Duquene and Carlow were forced to leave but Pitt and CMU are still here lol.
Daniel: wilderness: like this: Isn't this when self-defense is called for? I was thinking anybody that was standing up for justice had every right to jump in and stop these military men from taking this person. edit: And by the way, this is why waiting for the next of kin or some authority from some other person not within geographical proximity isn't coherent to justice in my opinion. If anybody has every been around dangerous people you would know it's not the time to think about who to contact, but on how to defend liberty. And I consider helping out another person being initially aggressed against within my natural rights. I can volunteer. It is of my liberty to do so. And in this instance it appears any person coming to this person's aid would have stood for justice. One kid walked up to the car, then he stopped, and than held his hands up. For a quick second, you can see one government cop pointing a rifle at the kid.
I guess we're disappearing people now. :(
Clayton -
ClaytonB: I guess we're disappearing people now. :( Clayton -
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I really cannot stand to watch this kind of stuff. I don't think I could responsibly handle being in such a situation. Regardless of the protesters beliefs this kind of military action apon citizen's makes me sick to my stomach.
Does it make me a terrorist if I advocate self defense? What about organized self defense amongst many?
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