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Karen De Coster attacks Gamers AGAIN!

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Telpeurion Posted: Tue, Sep 22 2009 5:22 PM

COPS HALT DRUG BUST TO PLAY WII

http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/36820.html

What starts out as another post about law enforcement abusing search warrants soon turns into a tirade against gamers, again! She attacks Wii Fit, which actually does function well as both a weight and exercise trainer, and calls it a "childish baby's toy". That must be worse than a baby's toy by itself! Sure a video game console is not going to help health connoisseur like De Coster get in shape, but the product (Wii Fit anyway) was never intended for persons such as her, it was for people who do not otherwise have the time, inclination, or money for expensive equipment and fitness centers. That is leaving aside that many physical rehabilitation clinics and hospitals use Wii Fit and other electronic systems in their programs... Hmmm, it must be because the doctors want to play while on the job! Truly, I cannot stress enough the disdain I feel when I read Karens' posts. One thing is for sure, I'd hate to grow up in her household. The only positive thing I can say is that at least she is not willing to impose her views on the rest of us... I think.


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You know when I saw that on LRC just now, I came over here to see if you posted about it like you did last time. Sure enough...

Whys it matter what she thinks? Is she not a fitness nut?  I dont think its surprising then that she disdains games and by extension, gamers.

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Daniel replied on Tue, Sep 22 2009 6:18 PM

Not all gamers. Only adult gamers.

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sicsempertyrannis:

You know when I saw that on LRC just now, I came over here to see if you posted about it like you did last time. Sure enough...

Whys it matter what she thinks? Is she not a fitness nut?  I dont think its surprising then that she disdains games and by extension, gamers.

It doesn't matter in the sense that I can avoid her if I so choose. However, in doing so I would only be doing myself a disservice as I think it is a good thing to know what other peoples' opinions are, if only for the fact that I can vocally oppose them. It is not really her views on video games, health, and fashion that have me riled up, it is her almost constant need to go off of her stated topic to take a jab at some non affiliated individual or group of individuals.

 

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No, she's right. Gaming is nothing but a gigantic time sink. If you have nothing better to do, then there is something wrong, especially if you spend a great deal of your time on gaming. I wasted so much time on games like World of Warcraft  due to the fact that my playtime helped to obscure underlying personal issues that I needed to address.

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No, she's right. Gaming is nothing but a gigantic time sink. If you have nothing better to do, then there is something wrong, especially if you spend a great deal of your time on gaming. I wasted so much time on games like World of Warcraft  due to the fact that my playtime helped to obscure underlying personal issues that I needed to address.

Word.  I love games, but there are hundreds of more productive things I can (and should) be doing.

I laughed when I read Karen's piece.

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filc replied on Tue, Sep 22 2009 6:45 PM

pwning nubs 4tw

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DarkCatalyst:

No, she's right. Gaming is nothing but a gigantic time sink. If you have nothing better to do, then there is something wrong, especially if you spend a great deal of your time on gaming. I wasted so much time on games like World of Warcraft  due to the fact that my playtime helped to obscure underlying personal issues that I needed to address.

Marginal utility! Anything can be a time sink. Anything. It is all up to each person. You can become addicted to anything, be it work, running around downtown Detroit (That means you DeCoster), movies, music, reading, and yes, video games! The question is, can someone play games all day without at least some kind of trade to keep their bellies full and electricity flowing? Sure there's the extreme case of 30 year olds living in their mother's basements, but that is an extreme, and their private problem. I am glad you solved your personal issues, but that was your issue with games, not with others'.

Gaming is recreation like anything else. All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy.

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DarkCatalyst:

No, she's right. Gaming is nothing but a gigantic time sink.

To me sitting on your ass and watching someone else play sports (without being the one playing or actually being at the game) is a waste of time.  It's all a matter of taste. I just hope Karen or someone else doesnt try and tell us what the 'libertarian' answer to leisure activities is, ala Rand.   Much as I might agree with Karen on some issues, I think she is a great example of whats wrong with LRC.  She comes across as nothing short of rude and arrogant, and she isnt the only one.  Is that how adults should speak?

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I visit LRC on a daily basis, and I enjoy much of the content that Lew provides. However, the cynicism and arrogance of some of the contributors is quite juvenile (similar to wasting time playing a video game). Perhaps the worst is Stephan Kinsella. He is constantly calling those people with whom he disagrees moronic. I find De Coster's commentary, most of the time, some of the best; but when she goes off on tangents such as this, I find it petty.

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richie2044:

I visit LRC on a daily basis, and I enjoy much of the content that Lew provides. However, the cynicism and arrogance of some of the contributors is quite juvenile (similar to wasting time playing a video game). Perhaps the worst is Stephan Kinsella. He is constantly calling those people with whom he disagrees moronic. I find De Coster's commentary, most of the time, some of the best; but when she goes off on tangents such as this, I find it petty.

Yeah DiLorenzo does it too.  His posts are frequently deleted.  I think after the Ron Paul movement the quality of the website went in the toilet, although his hits have gone way up since then so I suppose others would disagree.

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richie2044:
Perhaps the worst is Stephan Kinsella. He is constantly calling those people with whom he disagrees moronic.

Ah, go easy on Stephan.  He's trying his best.  I've had my run ins with him on some topics, but he's a good person.  And frankly, some people are morons.  Stick out tongue

I think you guys forget, these people aren't naturals at media and public relations.  They are not necessarily doing what they are doing because they are the best in the field, but that they carried torches through dark times when libertarian populism was still a long way off.  They do it, because there was no one else to do it.  I don't think too many people have become wealthy posting at LRC.

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sicsempertyrannis:
Yeah DiLorenzo does it too.

Mencken is an influence on DiLorenzo.  Have you ever read Mencken?  He was equivalent to the combined venom at LRC among all the contributors.

Man, the C4L is there is you guys want a website with sunshine and koolaid. Big Smile

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filc replied on Tue, Sep 22 2009 7:22 PM

Statism is a religion.

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kefka888 replied on Tue, Sep 22 2009 7:23 PM

             Any form of recreation could be considered a giant time sink. Recreation itself is subjective based on the tastes of the individual. If you find yourself addicted to a game then you could have just as easily found yourself addicted to any other form of recreation such as drugs, sports, fitness. This has no bearing on those of us who have no underlying personal issues and enjoy playing a game or two in our spare time.

Also, Karen goes out of her way to bash people who play games constantly. I don't see how this helps her articles in any way. I actually enjoyed the  article linked in the op until I read the last paragraph. It could have been a great last paragraph denouncing the authorities for abuse.

What if the authorities were instead using an actual bowling alley on the premises, would this have made it ok?

I don't see how posting in a blog is any more productive than killing zombies with my friends, but maybe that is because I'm a publicly schooled american zombie.

I would also like to add that Karen seems to have an agenda against the Wii itself.

http://karendecoster.com/the-makers-of-wii-are-geniuses.html

"Of course you can’t lose weight playing Nintendo Wii, any more than you can lose weight watching “Dancing with the Stars!"

This is totally false. I have lost weight using a combination of the wii fit strength training, an elliptical and better watching my diet. I also know that the wii is being used in many rehabilitation clinics for both recreational and therapeutic purposes.

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liberty student:

Man, the C4L is there is you guys want a website with sunshine and koolaid. Big Smile

No, but LRC didnt used to be so damned nasty and childish.

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filc replied on Tue, Sep 22 2009 7:31 PM

kefka888:

FF3 = best rpg of all time. Big Smile

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Oh, I certainly didn't mean to insult anybody or pass judgement on what someone chooses to do in his free time. "To each his own" ya know? I probably wouldn't have posted if I didn't quit WoW just a couple weeks ago. Sitting down and realizing I had 3 80's  and 3 characters in their 70's was a shocker.

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DarkCatalyst:
Sitting down and realizing I had 3 80's  and 3 characters in their 70's was a shocker.

Sell them.  My sister knows a guy who plays WOW with bots, and sells the high level characters on ebay.  He drives a $xxx,xxx sports car.  lol

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Saan replied on Tue, Sep 22 2009 8:13 PM

sicsempertyrannis:
No, but LRC didnt used to be so damned nasty and childish.

Agreed except for the childish part.  It has gotten way more inflammatory.  I don't think this is bad though, I would call it good timing.

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