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Ill-tempered YT Marxist conflates morality with the state.

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Capital Pumper Posted: Sun, Sep 13 2009 4:47 PM

For all of you who love debating Marxists (eyes on you Laughing Man) here's a treat.

 

 

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ladyattis replied on Sun, Sep 13 2009 5:03 PM

Check out my response and his comments on my video. It's hilarious that the fellow conflates politics and economics with ethics (and morality).

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His comments on his own video are even more ridiculous.

Btw I love you videos. They killed the conservative inside of me.

 

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One: He believes that the United States is actually the world leader in capitalism? Since he is 'Hooray Communism!' I will presume he is a Marxist which is the most common form of Communists these days. Marx in the Communist Manifesto stated that Capitalism is 'Free trade, Free buying and selling' and yet we have government regulations, quasi-governmental owned 'private' corporations, minimum wages, licenses, permits, etc etc. Clearly we don't have 'free trade, free buying and selling' therefore even according to Marx we do not have a capitalist economy. 

Two: What he talks about in terms of the American Indians and Iraqi people is due to rent seeking behavior found in mercantilism.

Three: What's with the eye rubbing?

Four: Concerning racism, he believes that regulation of the market will cure racism, yet is against a market forcing individuals to pay for their racism. And no we wouldn't of seen the end to institutional racism because when has the market not been unregulated? In fact we have seen exactly what he is proposing for the last 100 years [ perhaps even beyond that ]

Fifth: 'We need the State and we need to use it towards our advantage' yet he is against totalitarianism. Who's advantage? Communists? There is obviously a 'disadvantaged' side, so what happened to the equal system [ Communism ] which he propounds? Are they less equal? Less deserving?

Six: He wonders why anarchists call people who agree with government as being in accordance with force...well the government is force. It is built on force and sustained by force.  He even said that he wants to use the state for his advantage..

Seven: Why is it against the incentive of the capitalist to act correctly...yet for government it is always their incentive? If anything the capitalist has more incentive because they can win profits as well as lose them based on how well they please their consumer base.

Eight: How does a corporation make money? By pleasing the great amount of people possible through goods and services.

Nine: Enslave entire nations? Really?

 

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He's an idiot. Yeah, that's crass, but I am so tired of encountering these people in my day to day life. I've often wondered what it would be like to be able to suspend my morality and sense of ethics whenever it suited me. For example, a close friend of mine is a devout Christian. He lives his faith in his daily life and is a good man. I one day asked him what he would do if a community of people (state, state county, whatever) decided to peacefully leave the union. He said that in no uncertain terms he would force them back because the union is an ideal we need to uphold. Would he use the military even if these people were peaceful and simply stopped complying with the federal government? Yes. I can't understand how people can have such a mental disconnect. Yeah, he had a completely public "schooling", but still... I know he's intelligent.

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