http://ecireport.wordpress.com/2009/09/08/subjective-spin-doctor-michael-moore-calls-capitalism-evil
This makes me sad. I can't imagine how many people will be brainwashed by this new documentary =\
Democracy for Breakfast:This makes me sad. I can't imagine how many people will be brainwashed by this new documentary =\
Only the lowest common denominator. Keep appealing to intelligent people.
The more Moore produces, the more scrutiny he will generate.
If you find something evil that wobbles, push it. - Gary North
liberty student: Democracy for Breakfast:This makes me sad. I can't imagine how many people will be brainwashed by this new documentary =\ Only the lowest common denominator. Keep appealing to intelligent people. The more Moore produces, the more scrutiny he will generate.
My Government teacher showed 'Sicko' to the class in my last year of high school, and a lot of the students agreed with the documentary.
I hate how he doesn't include the "evil" that Government has done. Lets just say the Armenian Genocide, Bloody Sunday, Armritsar Massacre, Rape of Nanking, Tianammen Square never happened.
You'd think he'd run out of steam by now.
Democracy for Breakfast:My Government teacher showed 'Sicko' to the class in my last year of high school, and a lot of the students agreed with the documentary.
The purpose of public education is indoctrination.
A comrade of mine was shown Bowling for Columbine in English class. No matter what class you attend, you'll be bombarded by government propaganda (usually in the form of reading passages).
Maybe he should make a film in Russia, or China, or... Mozambique.
:-/
Living there of course...
People like Moore are professional propaganda prostitutes. If US actually becomes totalitarian, he'll make a living by making some fake movies about our socialist paradise :)
If I hear not allowed much oftener; said Sam, I'm going to get angry.
J.R.R.Tolkien, The Lord of the Rings
Can anyone explain why leftists don't just move to Cuba, North Korea, etc.? I realize it comes across as a right-wing cliche, but seriously, why won't they do so? If the (partially) free market US is sooooooo bad and socialism is soooooo good, then why not get on the first plane out of here?
It can't be hard to find another country with socialized health care, etc. And I doubt moving is that much more difficult or convenient than politically remaking the entire US.
As for the "documentary," if it's anything like Moore's other films then it's loaded with staged scenes, heavily edited footage and invented facts. The only halfway decent movie he ever made was Fahrenheit 9/11 and even that had its moments of idiocy.
I find it atrocious that he benefits so largely over the creativity capitalism allows vs what socialism would allow, and yet hates it.
"Anxiety is the dizziness of freedom." Soren Kierkegaard
Cork: Can anyone explain why leftists don't just move to Cuba, North Korea, etc.? I realize it comes across as a right-wing cliche, but seriously, why won't they do so? If the (partially) free market US is sooooooo bad and socialism is soooooo good, then why not get on the first plane out of here? It can't be hard to find another country with socialized health care, etc. And I doubt moving is that much more difficult or convenient than politically remaking the entire US.
In a similar vein, I've often wondered why someone doesn't look at the cost of:
Government healthcare/education/choose your poison/etc.
v.
A plane ticket to the U.K. (or if you're from the U.K., a plane ticket to Sweden and a language dictionary)
The somewhat smarter ones tell me to move to China. (Me, "You're proving my point..." Them, "?")
"Keynesianomics is a Ponzi scheme."
"You are correct in that Capitalism does not help with poverty, because it eliminates poverty altogether..."
"That wonderful strawman: greed."
Inequality bad.
Libertyandlife:I find it atrocious that he benefits so largely over the creativity capitalism allows vs what socialism would allow, and yet hates it.
He doesn't hate it, any more than Democrats hate Republicans or vice versa.
People need to be adult about what is going on around them. Hannity, Rush, Olbermann and Moore etc. are demagogues. They are actors, playing roles for adults who have the intellectual capacity of infants.
If Moore cared about capitalism, he would give away the proceeds from each film. If he cared about healthcare, he would put down the chocolate bars. He's laughing at the people who believe his films, but probably not as hard as he laughs at the people who get upset about his films.
In the game of polarity politics, all press is good press.
liberty student: He doesn't hate it, any more than Democrats hate Republicans or vice versa. People need to be adult about what is going on around them. Hannity, Rush, Olbermann and Moore etc. are demagogues. They are actors, playing roles for adults who have the intellectual capacity of infants. If Moore cared about capitalism, he would give away the proceeds from each film. If he cared about healthcare, he would put down the chocolate bars. He's laughing at the people who believe his films, but probably not as hard as he laughs at the people who get upset about his films. In the game of polarity politics, all press is good press.
Awesome.
Well, I saw a preview on Youtube and I gotta say I agree with the message. He just needs to change the title to "Fascism".
liberty student: If Moore cared about capitalism, he would give away the proceeds from each film. If he cared about healthcare, he would put down the chocolate bars. He's laughing at the people who believe his films, but probably not as hard as he laughs at the people who get upset about his films.
I'm tempted to be an anti-capitalist author myself. Cha-ching!
liberty student: Libertyandlife:I find it atrocious that he benefits so largely over the creativity capitalism allows vs what socialism would allow, and yet hates it. He doesn't hate it, any more than Democrats hate Republicans or vice versa. People need to be adult about what is going on around them. Hannity, Rush, Olbermann and Moore etc. are demagogues. They are actors, playing roles for adults who have the intellectual capacity of infants. If Moore cared about capitalism, he would give away the proceeds from each film. If he cared about healthcare, he would put down the chocolate bars. He's laughing at the people who believe his films, but probably not as hard as he laughs at the people who get upset about his films. In the game of polarity politics, all press is good press.
H.P. Lovecraft had to say about a newspaper of his times "Its articles written in the sensation seeking style perfectly suited to its readers and their highly immature brains"... are you related to Lovecraft by chance? Jokes set aside that's good writing, couldn't agree more.
Given the hysterical greeting Moore received at the Venice Movie Festival I am inclined to say he mostly works for the European market these days. Our leftists idolize him, and I am not making this up: he is probably held in higher regard than Messiah Obama. But far from him to move to Europe... very ironical considering he would be able to milk governments for "art subsidies" to make his movies!
Yes, it's time for the Dr Goebbels show!
I wouldn't be surprised if he genuinely hated "capitalism". It seems the vast majority of artists on all levels (from very local and obscure to all but their girl friends to globally popular, from high brow to low brow) hate "capitalism"; it has been that way for some time. It may be so deeply ingrained in many of these types of people it would be next to impossible to convince them otherwise. It seems to be part of the culture; my hunch, it will probably be one of the last things that would change as far as the general view of markets is concerned. It seems to have somehow got far too entrenched in that culture to expect anything else.
Note I said "I wouldn't be surprised"; If Moore, Olbermann, Rush, and maybe even the Daily Show, etc were ALL essentially Squealer writing "four legs good, two legs better" I wouldn't be too surprised about that either.
I also would not go as far as to say "adults with the intellectual capacity of infants". While that may be some of their crowd, Moore and company probably appeal a great deal to adults who are not as focused on the grand political, economical, or philisophical points as you. These people are there for adults to "seek general info". Kind of like how I would consult my mechanic for reparing the car. I may end up with a rip off car and a shady mechanic, it is however a field of lower importance to me, and nothing I wish to be an expert in or probably ever will be an expert in. I may be somewhat of an idiot and apathetic about cars, but I don't think that would make me a general all around idiot.
The problem for me is when masses of people get to dictate how yet another portion of my life operates after watching a piece of 9th rate intellectual quality. This makes me worried if Moore is shown in public schools.
Let us look then and see, how they manage their concerns- they for whose cause we are to labor, devote ourselves, and grow enthusiastic
-Max Stirner, The Ego and His Own
Of course they hate capitalism. And I'm sorry to say we do need the government.
Without the government, where would all the thieves, lay abouts, morons, busy bodies, derranged and degenerate, and the just generally useless find employment?
xahrx: Of course they hate capitalism. And I'm sorry to say we do need the government. Without the government, where would all the thieves, lay abouts, morons, busy bodies, derranged and degenerate, and the just generally useless find employment?
Good point. While Hazlitt claims that those people will be employed elsewhere as the funds now supporting them are freed, I suppose the productivity of our top notch politicians will not even justify subsitence level wages ;) That reminds me of a German politician, the ex-leader of the Young Socialists, who dropped out of university after just 13 years without a degree, just to become full-time politician of the Social-Democratic Party. He's my new favorite (OK, I really like our minister for economic affairs, too, who said he's now going "back to the roots" with his new post because he was doing some work in his family's business 10 years ago or so).
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