Juan:What is it that I don't agree with ? I'm sure there human rights violations everywhere. For instance in amerikkkan prisons. Maybe you should comment on those ?
But this is not a topic on American crimes. There're plenty of those already.
If I hear not allowed much oftener; said Sam, I'm going to get angry.
J.R.R.Tolkien, The Lord of the Rings
The topic's about China's threat/oppurtunity status globally; what its government does domesticly is largely irrelevant.
Keynes must've been a fan of Brave New World; why else would he write a book about its economics?
Well, most countries in the region consider China (and North Korea) a very possible threat. Of course, it's the job of the governments to be paranoid about each other.
I know the Vatican is active in China, but I think it's more of the same old western style of collaboration between governments and the Vatican that is centuries old. As the site I linked this article chaired by the neo-con. Bill Kristol states one of it's agenda is, "We aim to make the case and rally support for American global leadership." It's an arm of the American Empire. Here's the link from it's site. From the New York Sun:
"Pope Benedict XVI's elevation of Hong Kong's outspoken Bishop Joseph Zen to cardinal might be interpreted as a sign that the Vatican is taking a tough line toward Beijing, with which it broke diplomatic relations in 1949."
"I used to see a mountain as a mountain.. Thereafter.. when I saw a mountain; lo! it was not a mountain.. yet now of final tranquillity: I see a mountain just as a mountain as I used to.." - Master Yuan; molon labe
Wait till everyone realizes that the emperor has no clothes. I just hope Americans do it first.
this is how they think:
"• we need to accept responsibility for America's unique role in preserving and extending an international order friendly to our security, our prosperity, and our principles."
they are very active in plans for China
You will notice that Hong Kong has moved its gold reserves from London to HK. Why? Were they threatened by the PRC, or were they afraid of the British? Or some other reason.
economic development has not led to civil rights in say Singapore? - You're kidding right? Singapore is a very successful rule of law multicultural city. Not sure what your complaint is?
Will China become a peace loving and liberty loving country as it continues to grow richer? China is at war with whom? Not sure if they love peace but they have embraced it.
wilderness:they are very active in plans for China
You don't think that China doesn't have their own plans for US do you? Especially considering that they're our largest creditor...
to sum it up theres a chinese kid from my school, who just moved from china, i asked what he thinks about mao, and he said the school told him that he is a wise and glorious leader.
Eric:to sum it up theres a chinese kid from my school, who just moved from china, i asked what he thinks about mao, and he said the school told him that he is a wise and glorious leader.
We have FDR, they have Mao.
'It is difficult to imagine any normal person wishing to meet Marx for a third time.' - Alexander Gray, The Socialist Tradition
Natalie: wilderness:they are very active in plans for China You don't think that China doesn't have their own plans for US do you? Especially considering that they're our largest creditor...
I think it's more global than that. It's not solely elected, or communist appointed governmental leaders. There's government backed fascist corporations and banks. China's involvements for the U.S. is as much as the U.S. involvement for China - and the fascists are win-win on both accounts. So are any politicians that are on the in, too. Sure China could do a lot of damage to the U.S., and so could the U.S. to China. The U.S. government could wake-up one day and go to a gold standard, but they aren't. It would be economic security and that would rid that so-called credit factor. It's the net-tax producers and the net-tax consumers (includes not only politicians, but bailed-out corporations and those lobbying for governmental regulations to go their way, etc...). The latter I see as a libertarian notion of governmental aristocrats.
Governments cooperate often in today's political game.
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