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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="http://mises.org/Community/utility/FeedStylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>TT`s Lost in Tokyo : ostrom</title><link>http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/archive/tags/ostrom/default.aspx</link><description>Tags: ostrom</description><dc:language>en</dc:language><generator>CommunityServer 2008.5 SP2 (Build: 40407.4157)</generator><item><title>Third-World land theft and the tragedy of the commons: Mother Jones ponders, "Conservation: Indigenous people's enemy No. 1?" </title><link>http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/archive/2009/11/26/theft-and-the-tragedy-of-the-commons-mother-jones-ponders-quot-conservation-indigenous-people-s-enemy-no-1-quot.aspx</link><pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 10:50:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">944abf2b-d1be-4bf2-990d-438cb0e377e9:272899</guid><dc:creator>TokyoTom</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><wfw:commentRss xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/">http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/rsscomments.aspx?PostID=272899</wfw:commentRss><wfw:comment xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/">http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/commentapi.aspx?PostID=272899</wfw:comment><comments>http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/archive/2009/11/26/theft-and-the-tragedy-of-the-commons-mother-jones-ponders-quot-conservation-indigenous-people-s-enemy-no-1-quot.aspx#comments</comments><description>&lt;p&gt;The &lt;span style="text-decoration:underline;"&gt;Mother Jones&lt;/span&gt; magazine has been running a series of on-line articles which exemplify how progressives are exploring the ways in which various parts of the environmental/conservation agenda in developing countries have been counterproductive, adversely affected indigenous peoples, favored Western companies and played into the hands of local elites.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The articles are worth reviewing, as they reveal that enviros are starting to realize that protecting nature in the developing world requires protecting the property rights of indigenous communities.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;One such article, by &lt;b&gt;Mark Dowie&lt;/b&gt;, appeared in Mother Jones` on-line edition on November&amp;nbsp; 2. The headline reads, &lt;a href="http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2009/11/conservation-indigenous-peoples-enemy-no-1"&gt;&amp;quot;Conservation: Indigenous people&amp;#39;s enemy No. 1?&amp;quot;&lt;/a&gt;, the sub-header states, &lt;i&gt;&amp;quot;For centuries we&amp;#39;ve displaced people to save nature. A huge project in Africa offers a chance to turn that around.&amp;quot; &lt;/i&gt;Dowie, an award-winning investigative journalist, is an author of several books published by the MIT Press, including his most recent, &lt;a href="http://mitpress.mit.edu/catalog/item/default.asp?ttype=2&amp;amp;tid=11679"&gt;Conservation Refugees - The Hundred-Year Conflict between Global Conservation and Native Peoples&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Dowie`s thesis is that, until recently, conservationists have typically taken the approach that the best way to preserve tropical forests and other wild ecosystems, the right approach was to establish pristine reserves from which people were excluded, and describes the change in strategy in the context of a new series of parks that the government in Gabon, central Africa. Dowie notes that &lt;b&gt;the traditional approach - of establishing government-owned and -administered parks free of native residents - has a long, and long-forgotten history in the US&lt;/b&gt; (emphasis added):&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;But there was another, more historically significant opportunity
facing Gabon that day, one that Fay merely hinted at in his
presentation and Sanderson didn&amp;#39;t mention at all. It was the
opportunity their own industry, transnational conservation, had in
Gabon: to d&lt;b&gt;o right by the thousands of tribal people living inside
those emerald patches, by allowing them to remain in their homelands
and participate directly in the stewardship and management of the new
parks. They would then not be passive &amp;quot;stakeholders&amp;quot; relocated to the
margins of the park, the typical fate of indigenous peoples who find
themselves in conservation &amp;quot;hot spots,&amp;quot; but equal players in the
complex and challenging process of defending biological diversity. &lt;/b&gt;The
goal of such a policy would be the concurrent preservation of nature
and culture; Gabon just might come to signify a happy ending of &lt;b&gt;a
tense, century-long conflict between global environmentalism and native
people, millions of whom have been &lt;a href="http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2009/11/gms-money-trees"&gt;displaced&lt;/a&gt; from traditional homelands in the interest of conservation.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;It&amp;#39;s a century-long story of violence and abuse that began in Yosemite Valley in the mid 19th century,
when the Ahwahneechee band of Miwoks were chased about, caught on, then
forcefully expelled from a landscape they had cultivated for about 200
generations. &lt;/b&gt;Militias like the vicious Mariposa Battalion were sent
into Yosemite
to burn acorn caches and rout native people from remote reaches of the
Valley. &lt;b&gt;After the militias came the nature romantics who mythologized
the vacated valley as the wilderness it never was, then lobbied state
and federal governments to create a national park. They got their wish
in 1890, and the remaining Indians were removed &lt;/b&gt;from the area, with a
few allowed to remain temporarily, as menial laborers in a segregated
village of 20-by-20-foot shacks.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Yosemite&amp;#39;s Indian policy spread to Yellowstone, Grand Canyon, Mesa Verde,
Mount Ranier, Zion, Glacier, Everglades, and Olympic National Parks,
all of which expelled thousands of tribal people from their homes and
hunting grounds so the new parks could remain in an undisturbed &amp;quot;state
of nature.&amp;quot; &lt;/b&gt;Three hundred Shoshone
Indians were killed in a single day during the expulsion from
Yellowstone. &lt;b&gt;This was the birth of what would come to be known,
worldwide, as the Yosemite model of wildlife conservation. In Africa
it would be renamed &amp;quot;fortress conservation,&amp;quot; and like so many other
products from the North, the model would be exported with vigor to all
other continents. ...&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Teddy Roosevelt also proclaimed that &amp;quot;the rude, fierce settler who
drives the savage from the land lays all civilized mankind under a debt
to him&amp;hellip; It is of incalculable importance that America,
Australia, and Siberia should pass out of the hands of their red,
black, and yellow aboriginal owners and become the heritage of the
dominant world races.&amp;quot;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Our own history of theft from natives aside (which I have addressed tangentially in the context of &lt;a href="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/archive/2007/12/16/bison-markets-the-tragedy-of-the-commons-and-the-indian-war.aspx"&gt;the near-extirpation of the bison herds&lt;/a&gt; and the &lt;a href="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/archive/2008/07/23/destroying-the-salmon-the-socialized-commons-and-climate-change-part-ii.aspx"&gt;ongoing gross mismanagement and destruction of the salmon&lt;/a&gt;), what indigenous peoples in their right minds would not be opposed to the complicity of conservationists in continuing the process of the older colonial theft of their lands, even if the purpose was to &amp;quot;save&amp;quot; the land?&amp;nbsp; I won`t explore this now, but the record  of &amp;quot;development&amp;quot; is replete with many examples - old and new - of such kinds of theft, with local ownership replaced by government ownership and a resulting &amp;quot;tragedy of the commons&amp;quot;-type of race to plunder &amp;quot;government&amp;quot; lands for valuable resources - oil and gas, minerals and timber.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Dowie notes the natural rise of indigenous opposition to &amp;quot;conservation&amp;quot; projects:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;One consequence of creating a few million conservation refugees
around the world has been &lt;b&gt;the emergence of a vast and surprisingly
powerful movement of communities that have proven themselves stewards
of nature (otherwise conservationists would have no interest in their
land), but were turned by circumstance into self-described &amp;quot;enemies of
conservation.&lt;/b&gt;&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;In early 2004, a United Nations
meeting was convened for the ninth year in a row to push for passage of
a resolution protecting the territorial and human rights of indigenous
peoples. During the meeting, one indigenous delegate rose to state that
extractive industries, while still a serious threat to their welfare
and cultural integrity, were no longer the main antagonist of native
cultures. Their new and biggest enemy, she said, was &amp;quot;conservation.&amp;quot;
Later that spring, at a meeting in Vancouver, British Columbia,
of the International Forum on Indigenous Mapping, all 200 delegates
signed a declaration stating that &amp;quot;conservation has become the number
one threat to indigenous territories.&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;Then in February 2008, representatives of the International
Indigenous Forum on Biodiversity (IIFB) walked out of a Convention on
Biological Diversity (CBD) annual meeting, condemning the convention
for ignoring their interests. &amp;quot;We found ourselves marginalized and
without opportunity to take the floor and express our views,&amp;quot; read
their statement. &amp;quot;None of our recommendations were included in [the
meeting&amp;#39;s report]. So we have decided to leave this process&amp;hellip;&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;These are all rhetorical jabs, of course, and perhaps not entirely
accurate or fair. But they are based on fact and driven by experience,
and have shaken the international conservation community. So have a
spate of critical studies and articles calling international
conservationists to task for their historical mistreatment of
indigenous peoples.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The Mother Jones article looks like an excerpt from Dowie`s new book, which MIT describes as follows:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;&lt;span class="bodycopy"&gt;Since 1900, more than 108,000 officially
protected conservation areas have been established worldwide, largely
at the urging of five international conservation organizations. About
half of these areas were occupied or regularly used by indigenous
peoples. Millions who had been living sustainably on their land for
generations were displaced in the interests of conservation. In &lt;i&gt;Conservation Refugees,&lt;/i&gt; Mark Dowie tells this story.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This is a &amp;quot;good guy vs. good guy&amp;quot; story, Dowie writes; the indigenous
peoples&amp;rsquo; movement and conservation organizations have a vital common
goal&amp;mdash;to protect biological diversity&amp;mdash;and could work effectively and
powerfully together to protect the planet and preserve species and
ecosystem diversity. Yet for more than a hundred years, these two
forces have been at odds. The result: thousands of unmanageable
protected areas and native peoples reduced to poaching and trespassing
on their ancestral lands or &amp;quot;assimilated&amp;quot; but permanently indentured on
the lowest rungs of the economy.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class="bodycopy"&gt;The punch line of the book summary? &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;&lt;span class="bodycopy"&gt;When conservationists and native peoples
acknowledge the interdependence of biodiversity conservation and
cultural survival, Dowie writes, they can together create a new and
much more effective paradigm for conservation.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class="bodycopy"&gt;I am quite sympathetic with Dowie`s thinking, but it seems to me that he could make us of a little more intellectual framework, such as the Austrian awareness of the frequently negative role played by the state and the usefulness of property rights (as I noted in &lt;a href="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/archive/2009/05/24/capitalism-the-destructive-exploitation-of-the-amazon-and-the-tragedy-of-the-government-owned-commons.aspx"&gt;this earlier post about the destruction of the Amazon&lt;/a&gt;), and &lt;a href="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/search.aspx?q=ostrom"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Elinor Ostrom&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;`s research into successful management of open-access, common-pool resources by communities, including natives.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I left the following comments for Dowie at Mother Jones:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;div class="content"&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;Mark, great article. It`s good to hear
that the broader conservation community is waking up, but groups like
Survival International have always tried to protect indigenous
peoples`s rights.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;I`m afraid the headline is a bit of a distraction, because of course
the broader development effort as a whole has been much more
destructive, by even more widely putting power into the hands on
central elites, who often behaved kleptocratically.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;Regardless of the broader background, &lt;b&gt;it`s surprising that you
didn`t see fit to link your topic to the whole problem of the &amp;quot;tragedy
of the commons&amp;quot;, which is often tied to the nationalization of
resources, which deprives users of any control over the resources they
depend on. Elinor Ostrom has extensively studied this problem in
developing countries and elsewhere, and was awarded the Nobel Prize in
economics precisely for pointing out how &amp;quot;government&amp;quot; is often the
problem and not the solution:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://mises.org/Community/controlpanel/blogs/tokyotom/search.aspx?q=ostrom" title="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/search.aspx?q=ostrom"&gt;http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/search.aspx?q=ostrom&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I commend this effort by Dowie, and note some other interesting articles at Mother Jones:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div style="padding-left:30px;" class="content"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2009/11/gms-money-trees"&gt;GM&amp;#39;s Rainforest Racket:  People with some of the world&amp;#39;s smallest carbon footprints are being displaced&amp;mdash;so their forests can become offsets.&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;a href="http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2009/11/better-redd-dead"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div style="padding-left:30px;" class="content"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div style="padding-left:30px;" class="content"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2009/11/better-redd-dead"&gt;Better REDD Than Dead: The byzantine politics of paying countries to save trees.&lt;/a&gt;cial-reports/2009/11/climate-countdown&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Our best chance to fix global warming begins on December 7. Tick. Tick. Tick.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://mises.org/Community/aggbug.aspx?PostID=272899" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/archive/tags/development/default.aspx">development</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/archive/tags/ostrom/default.aspx">ostrom</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/archive/tags/commons/default.aspx">commons</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/archive/tags/Indians/default.aspx">Indians</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/archive/tags/theft/default.aspx">theft</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/archive/tags/Mark+Dowie/default.aspx">Mark Dowie</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/archive/tags/conservation/default.aspx">conservation</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/archive/tags/indigenous/default.aspx">indigenous</category></item><item><title>Bruce Yandle on the tragedy of the commons, evolution of cooperation &amp; property, and the struggle against government theft</title><link>http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/archive/2009/11/20/bruce-yandle-on-the-tragedy-of-the-commons-the-evolution-of-cooperation-and-property.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 10:45:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">944abf2b-d1be-4bf2-990d-438cb0e377e9:270932</guid><dc:creator>TokyoTom</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><wfw:commentRss xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/">http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/rsscomments.aspx?PostID=270932</wfw:commentRss><wfw:comment xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/">http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/commentapi.aspx?PostID=270932</wfw:comment><comments>http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/archive/2009/11/20/bruce-yandle-on-the-tragedy-of-the-commons-the-evolution-of-cooperation-and-property.aspx#comments</comments><description>&lt;p&gt;I`ve &lt;a href="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/search.aspx?q=yandle"&gt;often referred to&lt;/a&gt; &lt;b&gt;Bruce Yandle&lt;/b&gt;, a &amp;quot;free-market environmentalist&amp;quot; who is dean emeritus and Distinguished Professor&lt;i&gt;&lt;/i&gt; of Economics Emeritus at&amp;nbsp;Clemson University`s College of Business &amp;amp; Behavior Sciences, Distinguished Adjunct Professor of Economics &lt;a href="http://www.mercatus.org/PeopleDetails.aspx?id=17006"&gt;at the Mercatus Center&lt;/a&gt;, a faculty member with George Mason University&amp;#39;s Capitol Hill Campus, and a Senior Fellow &lt;a href="http://www.perc.org/bio.php?staff_id=14http://www.perc.org/bio.php?staff_id=14"&gt;at the Property and Environment Research Center&lt;/a&gt; (a free-market environmentalism think tank which has great links to his many works).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I`d like to draw attention attention to one short paper by Yandle which I find insightful in providing a perspective on the evolution of prperty rights and problems with resource management which arise from government owenership, even as he has short-shrifted the importance of community property mechanisms, which Nobel Prize-winner &lt;b&gt;Elinor Ostrom&lt;/b&gt; has so extensively researched and documented (as &lt;a href="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/search.aspx?q=ostrom"&gt;I keep noting&lt;/a&gt;).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Yandle`s paper, &lt;a href="http://www.thefreemanonline.org/featured/the-commons-tragedy-or-triumph/"&gt;The Commons: Tragedy or Triumph?&lt;/a&gt;, was published by the &lt;span style="text-decoration:underline;"&gt;Foundation for Economic Education&lt;/span&gt; in its April 1999 online edition of &lt;i&gt;Freeman&lt;/i&gt;. Here are portions I`d like to highlight:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt; The feeder is a commons, but not just for hummingbirds. Bees are
attracted to it as well, and oddly enough, they can drive off the
larger hummingbirds. So even if the dominant bird is able to deflect
competition from other members of the species, that is not enough to
protect the nectar, and the defense itself is costly in energy burned.
The feeder contents are never secure.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt; Hummingbirds have no way to stake a claim to the feeder. So far as
we can tell, hummingbird communities have no constitution that reflects
socially evolved rules for establishing a social order. Most likely, a
long process of adaptation and selection has generated a hummingbird
capable of living in a world where nourishment is a common-access
resource, a commons. Hummingbirds live a life of flight, engaging in a
constant search for nourishment to feed their high-energy lives and, at
times, fighting for temporary control over valuable resources.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="text-decoration:underline;"&gt;Human Commons&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt; We all know the tragedy of the commons story. Wonderfully written
by Garrett Hardin in 1968, the highly stylized rendering is about a
pasture devoid of rules, customs, or norms for sharing.&lt;sup&gt;[&lt;a href="http://www.fee.org/vnews.php?nid=4295#1"&gt;1&lt;/a&gt;]&lt;/sup&gt;
It is open to all comers. In this never-never-land, shepherds logically
add sheep to their flocks as long as doing so adds an increment of gain
for the particular flock. Uncoordinated in their effort, and unaware of
the effects of their individual actions on others, the unconcerned
shepherds collectively destroy the pasture. What could be a story of
plenty, if only the shepherds understood, turns into a story of
poverty. The passive shepherds are like hummingbirds. [Yandle has this wrong; Hardin posits competing shepherds who don`t talk w/ each other,and so look after only their narrow self-interests.]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt; As Hardin artistically puts it: &amp;ldquo;Therein is the tragedy. Each man
is locked into a system that compels him to increase his herd without
limit&amp;mdash;in a world that is limited. Ruin is the destination toward which
all men rush, each pursuing his own best interest in a society that
believes in freedom of the commons.&amp;rdquo;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt; Garrett Hardin&amp;rsquo;s words beautifully bundle aspects of an endless
human struggle to form communities, accumulate wealth, and improve
well-being. With that phrase&amp;mdash;tragedy of the commons&amp;mdash;the essence of the
challenge hits us squarely between the eyes: &lt;b&gt;When there are no property
rights&amp;mdash;formal or informal&amp;mdash;that limit use of a scarce natural resource,
human action leads inevitably to untimely resource depletion and
destruction.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt; &lt;b&gt;But people are not hummingbirds. People can build institutions that
take the edge off frantic commons behavior. People have unwritten and
written constitutions that help to establish social order. People can
and do accumulate wealth. People communicate, invent lines of kinship,
and develop customs, traditions, and rules of law that limit
anti-social behavior. People define, enforce, and trade property
rights. People can and do avoid the tragedy of the commons. Indeed,
instead of living with tragedies, people triumph over the commons. But
the triumphs are never perfect or complete. There is always another
commons to manage.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;&lt;span style="text-decoration:underline;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;The Ascent of Man&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt; I wish to put forward the notion that &lt;b&gt;encounters with the commons
form the fundamental stimulus that yields, instead of tragedy, what we
today call civilization.&lt;/b&gt; The ascent of man from a primitive existence
with no wealth accumulation to life as we know it is fundamentally a
story about triumph over, not tragedy of, the commons. Let me explain.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt; &lt;b&gt;Our very existence as human beings is defined by evolved
institutions for avoiding tragedies. We have names, which serve the
economic purpose of identifying us as parties to contracts and
agreements. Those names, first and last, form webs of communication
that reduce the social cost of assigning responsibilities and
liabilities. They enhance truth-telling and promise-keeping; they raise
the cost of engaging in anti-social behavior. They limit a tragedy of
the commons.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;&lt;b&gt; We have abstract symbols of ownership&amp;mdash;deeds, titles, and
contracts&amp;mdash;that define spheres of autonomous behavior. We speak of our
homes, our cars, our clothes, our families, and our pasture. Even
language has evolved to provide a possessive form that accommodates
triumph over the commons.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;&lt;b&gt; We write and observe contracts, wills, and marriage agreements that
define relationships, identify turf, and conserve wealth. We accept
evolved bodies of law and law-enforcement activities to assure the
integrity of our agreements. We carry papers that enable us to acquire
property, extinguish debt, cross borders, drive vehicles, and
communicate effectively with strangers. And we have locks, keys, walls,
fences, brands, and encryption devices, all this in an effort to avoid
a tragedy of the commons.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt; Property rights define who we are and what we have. Property rights
guard others from our unwanted advances and prevent us from
contributing to a tragedy of their commons.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;  Avoiding a tragedy of the commons is costly. The benefits must be large. ...&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt; The tragedy is found where for reasons having to do with power,
intolerance, or cost, human beings have not yet defined private
property rights. Or, as we shall see, where evolving property rights
encouraged by man the institution builder have been destroyed. What was
once a triumph can become a tragedy. ...&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt; What about fisheries? How can we avoid a tragedy of the commons
there? Long before the Europeans arrived on the scene in the Pacific
Northwest, Native Americans had figured it out. Small tribes in what is
now Washington State had salmon fishing rights. Don Leal tells us that
&amp;ldquo;in some cases, the tribe owned the rights; in others, families or
individuals or a combination owned the rights.&amp;rdquo;&lt;sup&gt;[&lt;a href="http://www.fee.org/vnews.php?nid=4295#5"&gt;5&lt;/a&gt;]&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt; And what happened when the Europeans arrived? You guessed it. Leal
tells the story this way: &amp;ldquo;Instead of recognizing the well-defined and
enforced fishing rights, the U.S. government allowed newcomers to place
nets across the mouth of the Columbia. This quickly depleted salmon
runs, so traps and weirs were banned&amp;mdash;only to be replaced by purse seine
boats powered by internal combustion engines. The race to catch salmon
moved to open waters. Ironically, from the country where private
property is considered sacrosanct came a socialistic legal system
driven by politics and military power.&amp;rdquo;&lt;sup&gt;[&lt;a href="http://www.fee.org/vnews.php?nid=4295#6"&gt;6&lt;/a&gt;]&lt;/sup&gt;
What had been private property was turned into a commons. What had been
an institution-builder triumph became a political tragedy. ...&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt; For centuries before anyone in the United States thought much about
environmental quality, our common law defined and protected the
environmental rights of ordinary people.&lt;sup&gt;[&lt;a href="http://www.fee.org/vnews.php?nid=4295#10"&gt;10&lt;/a&gt;]&lt;/sup&gt;
Enforced by judges in courts across the land, common law protected the
right of downstream property owners to receive water and air in
undiminished quality for reasonable use. At common law, rivers could
not be treated as open sewers if doing so imposed costs on downstream
rightholders. Industrial plants could not blow smoke and emissions onto
the land and property of ordinary people. The record is filled with
cases, here and in Canada, decided under English common-law traditions:
where farmers sued industrial plants and won; where citizens of one
state sued polluters in another state, and won; and where common-law
judges ordered polluters to clean up or shut down. There are also cases
where this did not happen, where judges turned away from
property-rights enforcement and behaved as policy makers. But when the
judges got it wrong, their decisions affected a small number of people,
not an entire nation. [I note &lt;a href="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/archive/2008/12/23/limited-liability-produces-both-pollution-and-political-meddling-block-on-environmentalism.aspx"&gt;Walter Block disagrees strongly&lt;/a&gt; and views this change in common law as leading to the rampant pollution that set the stage for federal legislation.] This, of course, changed with the advent of
legislation.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt; Prior to the passage of federal pollution-control statutes, every
major city in the United States had taken steps to define public
property rights to air quality. Many states, including California, had
taken a river-basin approach to the management of water quality, this
in addition to the use of common law. Multi-state compacts were
forming. By the 1960s, environmental quality was improving rapidly in
many locations. The property rights institution builders were on their
way to avoiding a tragedy of the commons. Common law was converting the
commons to private property.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;
 This was changed with the passage of &lt;b&gt;federal legislation that
effectively nationalized air and water quality in the United States.
What was becoming private property was made public property, almost a
commons. The new system of command-and-control regulation allowed
polluters to operate legally if they had a permit. With permits in
hand, new polluters could enter already crowded river basins. The new
regime provided political access to industries and municipalities that
hoped to postpone the day of reckoning in common law courts.&lt;/b&gt; ...&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt; This work sheds light on mankind&amp;rsquo;s struggle to avoid the tragedy of
the commons. It tells us that at very low levels of income, what might
be called stage one, human beings cannot afford to do much about
property-rights enforcement and the commons. They live in a world where
custom and tradition sustain them. As incomes rise and losses from the
commons expand, stage two is entered. Fences go up, and rules are set
for protecting the commons. Finally, in stage three, markets evolve
along with rules of law that define spheres of private and public
action. Private rights replace public control, and the triumph replaces
the tragedy of the commons. [Yandle ignores government mismanagement here, and how Western markets and Westernized leaders have seamrollered native institutions.] &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Life for mankind began on a commons where tragedies were
commonplace and the incentive to improve was powerful. Out of the
struggle to survive and accumulate wealth evolved markets, property
rights, and the rule of law&amp;mdash;a triumph on the commons.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;&lt;b&gt; But just as bees compete with hummingbirds in the struggle to
control access to nectar, institution builders who seek to support
markets and property rights compete with others who seek to
redistribute wealth. Actions to redistribute wealth blunt the incentive
to protect property rights and create wealth. This converts triumph to
tragedy.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;div id="refHTML"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://mises.org/Community/aggbug.aspx?PostID=270932" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/archive/tags/tragedy+of+commons/default.aspx">tragedy of commons</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/archive/tags/ostrom/default.aspx">ostrom</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/archive/tags/yandle/default.aspx">yandle</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/archive/tags/evolution/default.aspx">evolution</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/archive/tags/cooperation/default.aspx">cooperation</category></item><item><title>A few more comments to John Quiggin on climate, libertarian principles and the enclosure of the commons</title><link>http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/archive/2009/11/04/a-few-more-comments-to-john-quiggin-on-climate-and-libertarian-principles.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 05:41:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">944abf2b-d1be-4bf2-990d-438cb0e377e9:265879</guid><dc:creator>TokyoTom</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><wfw:commentRss xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/">http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/rsscomments.aspx?PostID=265879</wfw:commentRss><wfw:comment xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/">http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/commentapi.aspx?PostID=265879</wfw:comment><comments>http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/archive/2009/11/04/a-few-more-comments-to-john-quiggin-on-climate-and-libertarian-principles.aspx#comments</comments><description>&lt;p&gt;I note first that I am reminded by a pithy comment from someone else that, despite the length of &lt;a href="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/archive/2009/11/04/john-quiggin-plays-pin-the-tail-on-the-donkey-with-quot-libertarians-and-delusionism-quot.aspx"&gt;my previous post addressing &lt;b&gt;John Quiggin&lt;/b&gt;`s post on libertarian delusion&lt;/a&gt;, sometimes less is more. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://ozrisk.net/2007/10/09/bank-liquidity-management/#comment-28286"&gt;Writes commenter &amp;quot;ABOM&amp;quot;,&lt;/a&gt; in a comment made elsewhere and linked back in to Quiggin`s thread (done for the purported reason that Quiggin was deleting some of ABOM`s comments) (emphasis added):&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;I found it &lt;b&gt;ironic that JQ (an economist) was using a scientific
hypothesis (climate change) as a litmus test to determine whether
Austrians were &amp;ldquo;serious&amp;rdquo; economists.&lt;/b&gt; JQ (1) &lt;b&gt;assumes he knows about
climate science&lt;/b&gt; (he doesn&amp;rsquo;t) (2) &lt;b&gt;assumes anyone who questions climate
science is mad&lt;/b&gt; (they may not be) (3) &lt;b&gt;thinks anyone who questions the
govt&amp;rsquo;s solutions to the &amp;ldquo;problem&amp;rdquo; is also mad&lt;/b&gt; (even if you accept the
science, govt may not be the answer &amp;ndash; raising interest rates to their
&amp;lsquo;natural&amp;rsquo; level and a simple &amp;ldquo;depression&amp;rdquo; in consumption may be a
simpler solution) (4) isn&amp;rsquo;t allowing an open debate (he keeps censoring
me for some bizarre reason) and (5) to top it off accuses Austrians of
being part time scientists &amp;ndash; when he is the King of Part Time Amateur
Science ...&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Being verbose, this and a review of Quiggin`s post prompts me to write more.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I`m not sure I agree with ABOM`s initial comment; while Quiggin &lt;i&gt;might &lt;/i&gt;be implicitly using Austrian`s behavior regarding climate change to question whether they are &amp;quot;serious&amp;quot; economists, more straightforwardly he`s questioning why on climate they seem not to care to show it.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I failed to address the following points from John:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;1. &amp;nbsp; &amp;quot; it seems clear that, if mainstream climate science is correct,
neither anarcho-capitalism nor paleolibertarianism can be sustained.
The problem with anarcho-capitalism and other views where property
rights are supposed to emerge, and be defended, spontaneously, and
without a state is obvious. If states do not create systems of rights
to carbon emissions, the only alternatives are to do nothing, and let
global ecosystems collapse, or to posit that every person on the planet
has right to coerce any other person not to emit CO2 into the
atmosphere.&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;First, the alternatives to states creating systems of rights
to carbon emissions (or imposing carbon taxes, funding energy alternatives etc.) are NOT simply to do nothing, or to assume that all individuals will be left to try to coerce everyone else. While I agree that an-caps typically do not stress the desirability of undoing statist actions that feed into the climate problem, of course this is something which can and should be done, as I have tried to point out. And there are many voluntary and organized responses now underway that address climate change: organizations that cater to people (and firms) who want to track and lower their carbon footprint or buy offsets, firms that are competing to monitor and control their carbon footprint, both to lower costs and to stay ahead of competitors in the marketplace for consumer favor, voluntary corporate-oriented carbon trading/offset programs underway, insurance companies and others projecting and publicizing risks, etc. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;Ancaps and other libertarians may be wrong, but they essentially conclude that the large information and transaction costs that society faces in dealing with climate change cannot be overcome by fiat, which clearly is not simple. Using government typically brings a whole host of problems. Viz., the knowledge problem, rent-seeking and -farming, bureaucratic mal-incentives, &amp;amp; enforcement.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ol&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt; 2.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;quot;For paleolibertarians, the fact that property rights must
be produced by a new global agreement, rather than being the inherited
&amp;lsquo;peculiar institutions&amp;rsquo; of particular societies seems equally
problematic.&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;Yes. But there`s also&amp;nbsp; the problem of justice in the original
allocation. Why should the new property rights in the atmosphere be allocated to corporations, as opposed to citizens?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;3.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;quot;For more moderate libertarians, who accept in principle that
property rights are derived from the state, I think the problem is more
that the creation of a large new class of property rights brings them
face to face with features of their model that are generally buried in
a near-mythical past.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:60px;"&gt;&amp;quot;To start with, there&amp;rsquo;s the problem of justice in the original
allocation. Until now, people [in] developed countries have been
appropriating the assimilative capacity of the atmosphere as if there
was always &amp;ldquo;enough and as good&amp;rdquo; left over. Now that it&amp;rsquo;s obvious this
isn&amp;rsquo;t true, we need to go back and start from scratch, and this process
may involve offsetting compensation which effectively reassigns some
existing property rights.&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;I don`t think moderate libertarians so much &amp;quot;accept in principle that
property rights are &lt;i&gt;derived from&lt;/i&gt; the state,&amp;quot; as they recognize that the state has codified, circumscribed and enforces such rights. Right now, there are simply NO &amp;quot;existing property rights&amp;quot; regarding climate, other than the shared right to exhaust CO2 (and other GHGs) into the atmosphere, and to engage in other activities that alter albedo. Starting from scratch in the sense you use it, especially the &amp;quot;compensation&amp;quot; aspect, means governments &lt;i&gt;taking &lt;/i&gt;property from some and giving it to others
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;4.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;quot;Then there is the problem that the emissions rights we are talking
about are, typically time-limited and conditional. But if rights
created now by modern states have this property, it seems reasonable to
suppose that this has always been true, and therefore that existing
property rights may also be subject to state claims of eminent domain.&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;&amp;quot;Property rights&amp;quot; are essentially a portfolio of formal and informal institutions that communities have devised, over long periods of trial and error. Most such &amp;quot;rights&amp;quot; - whether informal or state-recognized - are time-limited and conditional. That states have always and continue to alter, and take, property rights tells us nothing about the justice or efficacy of such actions - and you might have noticed that &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/search.aspx?q=ostrom"&gt;Elinor Ostrom&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/b&gt;and the progressives (some of whom I quoted in &lt;a href="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/archive/2009/11/04/john-quiggin-plays-pin-the-tail-on-the-donkey-with-quot-libertarians-and-delusionism-quot.aspx"&gt;my prior post&lt;/a&gt;) who want to &amp;quot;take back the commons&amp;quot; argue very strongly about both. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;Where our &lt;a href="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/search.aspx?q=fish"&gt;fisheries are collapsing&lt;/a&gt;, they are doing so chiefly because our governments have trampled native rights or community-developed practices in favor of bureaucratic management and the resulting tragedy of the commons. While the solution in such cases appears to be the re-creation of property rights that give fishermen a stake in preserving the resource they rely upon, such situations are hardly akin to the worldwide creation of CO2 emission rights, which present much more severe difficulties in allocating and enforcing.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ol&gt;
&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://mises.org/Community/aggbug.aspx?PostID=265879" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/archive/tags/Austrians/default.aspx">Austrians</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/archive/tags/ostrom/default.aspx">ostrom</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/archive/tags/commons/default.aspx">commons</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/archive/tags/Enviro+Derangement+Syndrome/default.aspx">Enviro Derangement Syndrome</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/archive/tags/climate+change/default.aspx">climate change</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/archive/tags/John+Quiggin/default.aspx">John Quiggin</category></item><item><title>John Quiggin plays Pin-the-tail-on-the-Donkey with "Libertarians and delusionism"</title><link>http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/archive/2009/11/04/john-quiggin-plays-pin-the-tail-on-the-donkey-with-quot-libertarians-and-delusionism-quot.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 17:59:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">944abf2b-d1be-4bf2-990d-438cb0e377e9:265713</guid><dc:creator>TokyoTom</dc:creator><slash:comments>1</slash:comments><wfw:commentRss xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/">http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/rsscomments.aspx?PostID=265713</wfw:commentRss><wfw:comment xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/">http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/commentapi.aspx?PostID=265713</wfw:comment><comments>http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/archive/2009/11/04/john-quiggin-plays-pin-the-tail-on-the-donkey-with-quot-libertarians-and-delusionism-quot.aspx#comments</comments><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;John Quiggin&lt;/b&gt;, a left-leaning Australian economist and professor at the University of Queensland, has noted &lt;a href="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/archive/2009/10/30/the-road-not-taken-ii-austrians-strive-for-a-self-comforting-irrelevancy-on-climate-change-the-greatest-commons-problem-rent-seeking-game-of-our-age.aspx"&gt;my recent post&lt;/a&gt; on the penchant for bloggers
and readers at the Mises Blog to attack climate science - are &amp;quot;&lt;b&gt;almost universally committed to delusional views on climate science&lt;/b&gt;&amp;quot;, &lt;a href="http://johnquiggin.com/index.php/archives/2009/11/02/libertarians-and-delusionism/comment-page-2/#comments"&gt;as he puts it&lt;/a&gt; - though these are not words fairly put into my mouth.&amp;nbsp; Like me, though, Quiggin wonders why wonders why libertarians focus on climate science at the near-exclusion of policy discussions, since (1)  he sees &amp;quot;plenty of political opportunities to use climate change to attack  subsidies and other existing interventions&amp;quot; and (2) he supposes that the environmental movement`s widespread shift &amp;quot;from profound suspicion
of markets to enthusiastic support for market-based policies such as
carbon taxes and cap and trade&amp;quot; seems like a big win for libertarians.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Quiggin previously commented on &amp;quot;&lt;a href="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/archive/2008/06/17/a-left-wing-economist-discusses-quot-libertarians-and-global-warming-quot.aspx"&gt;Libertarians and global warming&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot; last June; this seems to be a follow up.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Quiggins posits that Austrians/libertarians exhibit a &amp;quot;near-universal rejection of mainstream climate science,&amp;quot; and asserts that:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;we can draw one of only three conclusions&lt;br /&gt;
(a) Austrians/libertarians are characterized by delusional belief in
their own intellectual superiority, to the point where they think they
can produce an analysis of complex scientific problems superior to that
of actual scientists, in their spare time and with limited or no
scientific training in the relevant disciplines, reaching a startling
degree of unanimity for self-described &amp;ldquo;sceptics&amp;rdquo;&lt;br /&gt;
(b) Austrians/libertarians don&amp;rsquo;t understand their own theory and
falsely believe that, if mainstream climate science is right, their own
views must be wrong&lt;br /&gt;
(c) Austrians/libertarians do understand their own theory and correctly
believe that, if mainstream climate science is right, their own views
must be wrong&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;John concludes:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;&amp;quot;Overall, though I, think that acceptance of the reality of climate
change would be good for libertarianism as a political movement. It
would kill off the most extreme and unappealing kinds of &lt;i&gt;a priori&lt;/i&gt;
logic-chopping, while promoting an appreciation of Hayekian arguments
about the power of market mechanisms. And the very fact of uncertainty
about climate change is a reminder of the fatality of conceits of
perfect knowledge.&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;While John asks a good question and reveals some appreciation of markets, it`s clear that he is still pretty much groping in the dark when it comes to understanding libertarians` concerns about climate policy, indeed, even as to libertarian aims and concerns generally. He also overlooks various cognitive/psychological factors that appear to be at play. Naturally, I appreciate the opportunity for discussion.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;1. Before addressing his three possible conclusions, let me note that while &amp;quot;market-based policies such as
carbon taxes and cap and trade&amp;quot; may seem to John &amp;quot;like a big win for libertarians&amp;quot;, this is most definitely NOT the case for most libertarians in the context of climate change, as these &amp;quot;market-based policies&amp;quot; represent an enormous expansion of government that libertarians feel very strongly, based on past experience, will be profoundly porky, counterproductive and costly. In the face of the fight for favor in Washington and the choice of opaque cap-and-trade over a more open rebated carbon tax and other deregulatory options, there is good reason to believe that libertarians are right.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;2. Regarding conclusion (a), let me first note that John reveals the self-same &amp;quot;conceit of perfect knowledge&amp;quot; that he accuses Austrians/libertarians of having: the &amp;quot;acceptance of reality of climate change&amp;quot; would undoubtedly be good for everyone, but just what is that reality, and how can a layman of any stripe confirm himself that climate is changing and that man is responsible? The very fact that this &amp;quot;reality&amp;quot; is nearly impossible to confirm personally (even over the course of a lifetime) means that even those whom John considers as having &amp;quot;accepted reality&amp;quot; have basically just adopted a frame of reference, on the basis of the consistency of the AGW frame with other previously established mental frames, a reliance on authority, peer-group acceptance, etc. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;quot;Reality&amp;quot; in this case inevitably, for most people, has very large personal and social components; accordingly, both &amp;quot;acceptance&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;skepticism&amp;quot; of it may look like a group belief, which may help to explain why it is possible to perceive &amp;quot;a startling
degree of unanimity&amp;quot; of views on climate science, the contents of such views varying by group. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As for Austrians/libertarians, while I don`t think it is fair to conclude they (we) are characterized by delusional belief in
their own intellectual superiority, but that many do have a belief, not so much in the superiority of their intellect, but in the correctness of their views on political science and economics (this is common in other groups, of course). This may affect their views on climate science, for several reasons that I have noted to John previously, and may be related for some of them to his conclusions (b) and (c).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;3. Concerning conclusions (b) and (c), these are both over-generalizations; libertarians are a heterogenous bunch. But if I may generalize myself, to me there appears no conflict whatsoever between Austrian views, which are primarily about interpersonal relations and the role of government, and climate science. &amp;quot;Mainstream science&amp;quot; has nothing to do with these views, so if Austrians are wrong about &amp;quot;mainstream climate science&amp;quot;, this does not imply that any Austrian views
must be wrong. So Quiggins` (c) is wrong.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Quiggins`(b) - that Austrians may not understand their own theory and
may falsely believe that, if mainstream climate science is right, their own
views must be wrong - may be right for &lt;i&gt;some&lt;/i&gt; Austrians, but certainly not generally. Rather, what I suspect is going on is much more ordinary, as I previously noted to Quiggin as &lt;a href="http://crookedtimber.org/2008/06/15/libertarians-and-global-warming/#comment-244146"&gt;a comment on his related June post&lt;/a&gt;; that I need to repeat myself indicates that maybe John is having cognitive difficulties of his own (emphasis added):&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;John, thanks for this piece. As a libertarian who believes that
climate change IS a problem, I share some of your puzzlement and have
done considerable commenting
on this issue [see &lt;a href="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/archive/tags/Enviro+Derangement+Syndrome/default.aspx"&gt;this long list&lt;/a&gt;]. Allow me to offer a few thoughts on various factors at
work in the general libertarian resistance to taking government action
on climate change:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt; &amp;ndash; As &lt;b&gt;Chris Horner&lt;/b&gt; noted in your linked
piece, &lt;b&gt;many libertarians see &amp;ldquo;global warming [as] the bottomless well
of excuses for the relentless growth of Big Government.&amp;rdquo;&amp;nbsp; Even those who
agree that is &lt;span class="caps"&gt;AGW&lt;/span&gt;
is a serious problem are worried, for good reason, that government
approaches to climate change will be a train wreck &amp;ndash; in other words,
that the government &amp;ldquo;cure&amp;rdquo; will be worse than the problem.&lt;/b&gt; &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;&amp;ndash;
Libertarians have in general drifted quite far from environmentalists.
Even though they still share a mistrust of big government,
environmentalists generally believe that &lt;span class="caps"&gt;MORE&lt;/span&gt;
government is the answer, while ignoring all of the problems associated
with inefficient bureaucratic management (witness the crashing of many
managed fisheries in the US), the manipulation of such managment to
benefit bureaucratic interests, special interests and insiders
(wildfire fighting budgets, fossil fuel and hard rock mining, etc.) and
the resultant and inescapable politicization of all disputes due to the
absence of private markets. &lt;b&gt;Libertarians see that socialized property
rights regimes can be just as &amp;ldquo;tragedy of the commons&amp;rdquo; ruinous as cases
where community or private solutions have not yet developed, and have
concluded that, without privatization, government involvement
inevitably expands. Thus, libertarians often see environmentalists as
simply another group fighting to expand government, and are hostile as
a result. &lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;&amp;ndash; &lt;b&gt;Libertarians are as subject to reflexive, partisan
position-taking as any one else. Because they are reflexively opposed
to government action, they find it easier to operate from a position of
skepticism in trying to bat down &lt;span class="caps"&gt;AGW&lt;/span&gt; scientific and economic arguments (and to slam the motives of those arguing that &lt;span class="caps"&gt;AGW&lt;/span&gt;
must be addressed by government) than to open-mindedly review the
evidence.&lt;/b&gt; This is a shame( but human), because&lt;b&gt; it blunts the libertarian
message in explaining what libertarians understand very well &amp;ndash; that
environmental problems arise when property rights over resources are
not clearly defined or enforceable, and also when governments
(mis)manage resources.&lt;/b&gt; &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I`ve discussed a number of times how we all easily fall into partisan cognitive traps, as &lt;a href="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/archive/2008/04/17/nick-kristof-on-politics-why-we-conclude-that-i-m-right-and-you-re-evil.aspx"&gt;summarized here.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;A related piece of the dynamic is that some libertarians may feel that if they agree that AGW may be a problem, that this will be taken - wrongly - by &lt;i&gt;others &lt;/i&gt;in the political arena as a conclusion that the libertarian message is no longer relevant.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;4. Some support for these points can be seen in&lt;b&gt; Edwin Dolan`&lt;/b&gt;s 2006 paper, &amp;quot;&lt;a href="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/archive/2008/02/13/edwin-dolan-applying-the-lockean-framework-to-climate-change.aspx"&gt;Science, Public Policy and Global Warming: Rethinking the Market Liberal Position&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot; (Cato), in which Dolan suggests that many libertarian climate skeptics are acting quite as
if they are &amp;quot;conservatives&amp;quot; of the type condemned by &lt;b&gt;Friedrich Hayek&lt;/b&gt;.&amp;nbsp;
Dolan&amp;nbsp;cites Hayek&amp;rsquo;s 1960&amp;nbsp;essay, &amp;ldquo;Why I am Not a Conservative&amp;rdquo; (1960),
in which&amp;nbsp;Hayek identified the following&amp;nbsp;traits that distinguish
conservatism from market liberalism:
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;&amp;bull; Habitual resistance to change, hence the term &amp;ldquo;conservative.&amp;rdquo;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;bull; Lack of understanding of spontaneous order as a guiding principle of economic life.&lt;br /&gt;&amp;bull; Use of state authority to protect established privileges against the forces of economic change.&lt;br /&gt;&amp;bull; Claim to superior wisdom based on self-arrogated superior quality in place of rational argument.&lt;br /&gt;&amp;bull; A propensity to reject scientific knowledge because of dislike of the consequences that seem to follow from it.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Further support is provided by J&lt;b&gt;onathan Adler&lt;/b&gt;, a libertarian law professor at Case Western who focusses on resource issues, and who has concluded that climate change is a serious concern, and that man is contributing to it. His February 2008 post, &amp;quot;&lt;a href="http://volokh.com/posts/1201968666.shtml"&gt;Climate Change, Cumulative Evidence, and Ideology&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot; (and the comment thread) is instructive:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;" class="firstinpost"&gt;&amp;quot;Almost every time I post something on climate
change policy, the comment thread quickly devolves into a debate over
the existence of antrhopogenic global warming at all. (See, for
instance, &lt;a href="http://volokh.com/posts/1201821183.shtml"&gt;this post&lt;/a&gt;
on &amp;quot;conservative&amp;quot; approaches to climate change policy.) I have largely
refused to engage in these discussions because I find them quite
unproductive. The same arguments are repeated ad nauseum, and no one is
convinced (if anyone even listens to what the other side is saying). ...&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;&amp;quot;Given my strong libertarian leanings, it would certainly be
ideologically convenient if the evidence for a human contribution to
climate change were less strong. Alas, I believe the preponderance of
evidence strongly supports the claim that anthropogenic emissions are
having an effect on the global climate, and that effect will increase
as greenhouse gases accumulate in the atmosphere. While I reject most
apocalyptic scenarios as unfounded or unduly speculative, I am
convinced that the human contribution to climate change will cause or
exacerbate significant problems in at least some parts of the world.
For instance, even a relatively modest warming over the coming decades
is very likely to have a meaningful effect on the timing and
distribution of precipitation and evaporation rates, which will, in
turn, have a substantial impact on freshwater supplies. That we do not
know with any precision the when, where, and how much does not change
the fact that we are quite certain that such changes will occur.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;&amp;quot;So-called climate &amp;quot;skeptics&amp;quot; make many valid points about the
weakness or unreliability of many individual arguments and studies on
climate. They also point out how policy advocates routinely exaggerate
the implications of various studies or the likely consequences of even
the most robust climate predictions. Economists and others have also
done important work questioning whether climate risks justify extreme
mitigation measures. But none of this changes the fact that the
cumulative evidence for a human contribution to present and future
climate changes, when taken as a whole, is quite strong. In this
regard, I think it is worth quoting something Ilya wrote below about
the nature of evidence in &lt;a href="http://volokh.com/archives/archive_2008_01_27-2008_02_02.shtml#1201922977"&gt;his post about 12 Angry Men&amp;quot;&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;People
often dismiss individual arguments and evidence against their preferred
position without considering the cumulative weight of the other side&amp;#39;s
points. It&amp;#39;s a very easy fallacy to fall into. But the beginning of
wisdom is to at least be aware of the problem.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;&amp;quot;The &amp;quot;divide
and conquer&amp;quot; strategy of dissecting each piece of evidence
independently can make for effective advocacy, but it is not a good way
to find the truth&amp;quot;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I&amp;nbsp; noted the following &lt;a href="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/archive/2008/02/06/quot-climate-change-cumulative-evidence-and-ideology-quot.aspx"&gt;in response to Adler&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;I think that there are many Austrians who understand WHY there might
be a climate change problem to which man contributes, as the atmosphere
is an open-access resource, in which there are no clear or
enforceable&amp;nbsp;property rights that&amp;nbsp;rein in externalities or that give
parties with differing preferences an ability to engage in meaingful
transactions that reflect those preferences.&amp;nbsp; 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;But, flawed human beings that we are, &lt;b&gt;we have difficulty truly
keeping our minds open (subconscious dismissal of inconsistent data&amp;nbsp;is
a cognitive rule)&amp;nbsp;and we easily fall into tribal modes of conflict that
provide us with great satisfaction in disagreeing with those evil
&amp;quot;others&amp;quot; while circling the wagons&lt;/b&gt; (and counting coup) with our
brothers in arms.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;Sadly, this is very much in evidence in the thread to your own post.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;5. &lt;b&gt;I have pulled together a post that indicates that a number of &lt;a href="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/archive/2009/11/03/a-libertarian-immodestly-makes-a-few-modest-climate-policy-proposals.aspx"&gt;libertarians are trying to engage in good faith on climate change&lt;/a&gt;, and which may also serve as a good introduction for interested readers to libertarian thinking on environmental issues.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;6. Finally, let me note that many of the problems that concern libertarians also concern progressives, chief of these being the negative effects of state actions on communities, development and on open-access (and hitherto local, indigenous-managed) commons.&amp;nbsp; This is the same concern that the Nobel Prize committee expressed when extending the prize in Economics to &lt;a href="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/archive/2009/10/16/elinor-ostrom-austrian-praise-for-the-nobel-laureate-and-a-reprise-of-my-posts-on-her-thoughts-on-how-human-communities-successly-manage-commons.aspx"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Elinor Ostrom&lt;/b&gt;,&lt;/a&gt; signalling their desire for a change in international aid policy.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You might find these remarks by &lt;b&gt;Nicholas Hildyard, Larry Lohmann, Sarah Sexton &lt;/b&gt;and &lt;b&gt;Simon Fairlie&lt;/b&gt; in &amp;quot;&lt;a href="http://www.thecornerhouse.org.uk/item.shtml?x=52004#index-01-00-00-00"&gt;Reclaiming the Commons&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot; (1995) to be pertinent; domestic cap-and-trade is an enclosure of the atmospheric commons, for the benefit of firms receiving grants of permits and costs flowing regressively to energy consumers, and internationally represents a vast expansion of state authority and bureaucracies, with attendant enclosure of local resources:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt; The creation of empires and states, business conglomerates and
civic dictatorships -- whether in pre-colonial times or in the modern
era -- has only been possible through dismantling the commons and
harnessing the fragments, deprived of their old significance, to build
up new economic and social patterns that are responsive to the
interests of a dominant minority. The modern nation state has been
built only by stripping power and control from commons regimes and
creating structures of governance from which the great mass of humanity
(particularly women) are excluded. Likewise, the market economy has
expanded primarily by enabling state and commercial interests to gain
control of territory that has traditionally been used and cherished by
others, and by transforming that territory - together with the people
themselves - into expendable &amp;quot;resources&amp;quot; for exploitation. By enclosing
forests, the state and private enterprise have torn them out of fabrics
of peasant subsistence; by providing local leaders with an outside
power base, unaccountable to local people, they have undermined village
checks and balances; by stimulating demand for cash goods, they have
impelled villagers to seek an ever wider range of things to sell. Such
a policy was as determinedly pursued by the courts of Aztec Mexico, the
feudal lords of West Africa, and the factory owners of Lancashire and
the British Rail as it is today by the International Monetary Fund or
Coca-Cola Inc.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt; Only in this way has it been possible to convert peasants into
labour for a global economy, replace traditional with modern
agriculture, and free up the commons for the industrial economy.
Similarly, only by atomizing tasks and separating workers from the
moral authority, crafts and natural surroundings created by their
communities has it been possible to transform them into modern,
universal individuals susceptible to &amp;quot;management&amp;quot;. In short, only by
deliberately taking apart local cultures and reassembling them in new
forms has it been possible to open them up to global trade.[FN L.
Lohmann, &amp;#39;Resisting Green Globalism&amp;#39; in W. Sachs (ed), Global Ecology:
Conflicts and Contradictions, Zed Books, London and New Jersey, 1993.]
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt; To achieve that &amp;quot;condition of economic progress&amp;quot;, millions have
been marginalized as a calculated act of policy, their commons
dismantled and degraded, their cultures denigrated and devalued and
their own worth reduced to their value as labour. Seen from this
perspective, many of the processes that now go under the rubric of
&amp;quot;nation-building&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;economic growth&amp;quot;, and &amp;quot;progress&amp;quot; are first ad
foremost processes of expropriation, exclusion, denial and
dispossession. In a word, of &amp;quot;enclosure&amp;quot;.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt; Because history&amp;#39;s best-known examples of enclosure involved the
fencing in of common pasture, enclosure is often reduced to a synonym
for &amp;quot;expropriation&amp;quot;. But enclosure involves more than land and fences,
and implies more than simply privatization or takeover by the state. It
is a compound process which affects nature and culture, home and
market, production and consumption, germination and harvest, birth,
sickness and death. It is a process to which no aspect of life or
culture is immune. ..,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;Enclosure tears people and their lands, forests, crafts,
technologies and cosmologies out of the cultural framework in which
they are embedded and tries to force them into a new framework which
reflects and reinforces the values and interests of newly-dominant
groups. Any pieces which will not fit into the new framework are
devalued and discarded. In the modern age, the architecture of this new
framework is determined by market forces, science, state and corporate
bureaucracies, patriarchal forms of social organization, and ideologies
of environmental and social management.

&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt; Land, for example, once it is integrated into a framework of
fences, roads and property laws, is &amp;quot;disembedded&amp;quot; from local fabrics of
self-reliance and redefined as &amp;quot;property&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;real estate&amp;quot;. Forests are
divided into rigidly defined precincts - mining concessions, logging
concessions, wildlife corridors and national parks - and transformed
from providers of water, game, wood and vegetables into scarce
exploitable economic resources. Today they are on the point of being
enclosed still further as the dominant industrial culture seeks to
convert them into yet another set of components of the industrial
system, redefining them as &amp;quot;sinks&amp;quot; to absorb industrial carbon dioxide
and as pools of &amp;quot;biodiversity&amp;quot;. Air is being enclosed as economists
seek to transform it into a marketable &amp;quot;waste sink&amp;quot;; and genetic
material by subjecting it to laws which convert it into the
&amp;quot;intellectual property&amp;quot; of private interests.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;
 People too are enclosed as they are fitted into a new society where
they must sell their labour, learn clock-time and accustom themselves
to a life of production and consumption; groups of people are redefined
as &amp;quot;populations&amp;#39;, quantifiable entities whose size must be adjusted to
take pressure off resources required for the global economy. ...&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;enclosure transforms the environment into a &amp;quot;resource&amp;quot; for national or
global production - into so many chips that can be cashed in as
commodities, handed out as political favours and otherwise used to
accrue power. ... &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;Enclosure thus cordons off those aspects of the environment that are
deemed &amp;quot;useful&amp;quot; to the encloser -- whether grass for sheep in 16th
century England or stands of timber for logging in modern-say Sarawak
-- and defines them, and them alone, as valuable. A street becomes a
conduit for vehicles; a wetland, a field to be drained; flowing water,
a wasted asset to be harnessed for energy or agriculture. Instead of
being a source of multiple benefits, the environment becomes a
one-dimensional asset to be exploited for a single purpose - that
purpose reflecting the interests of the encloser, and the priorities of
the wider political economy in which the encloser operates....&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt; Enclosure opens the way for the bureaucratization and enclosure of
knowledge itself. It accords power to those who master the language of
the new professionals and who are versed in its etiquette and its
social nuances, which are inaccessible to those who have not been to
school or to university, who do not have professional qualifications,
who cannot operate computers, who cannot fathom the apparent mysteries
of a cost-benefit analysis, or who refuse to adopt the forceful tones
of an increasingly &amp;quot;masculine&amp;quot; world.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt; In that respect, as Illich notes, &amp;quot;enclosure is as much in the
interest of professionals and of state bureaucrats as it is in the
interests of capitalists.&amp;quot; For as local ways of knowing and doing are
devalued or appropriated, and as vernacular forms of governance are
eroded, so state and professional bodies are able to insert themselves
within the commons, taking over areas of life that were previously
under the control of individuals, households and the community.
Enclosure &amp;quot;allows the bureaucrat to define the local community as
impotent to provide for its own survival.&amp;quot;[FN I Illich, &amp;#39;Silence is a
Commons&amp;#39;, The Coevolution Quarterly, Winter 1983.] It invites the
professional to come to the &amp;quot;rescue&amp;quot; of those whose own knowledge is
deemed inferior to that of the encloser.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt; Enclosure is thus a change in the networks of power which enmesh
the environment, production, distribution, the political process,
knowledge, research and the law. It reduces the control of local people
over community affairs. Whether female or male, a person&amp;#39;s influence
and ability to make a living depends increasingly on becoming absorbed
into the new policy created by enclosure, on accepting -- willingly or
unwillingly -- a new role as a consumer, a worker, a client or an
administrator, on playing the game according to new rules. The way is
thus cleared for cajoling people into the mainstream, be it through
programmes to bring women &amp;quot;into development&amp;quot;, to entice smallholders
&amp;quot;into the market&amp;quot; or to foster paid employment.[FN P. Simmons, &amp;#39;Women
in Development&amp;#39;, The Ecologist, Vol. 22, No.1, 1992, pp.16-21.]
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;
 Those who remain on the margins of the new mainstream, either by
choice or because that is where society has pushed them, are not only
deemed to have little value: they are perceived as a threat. Thus it is
the landless, the poor, the dispossessed who are blamed for forest
destruction; their poverty which is held responsible for
&amp;quot;overpopulation&amp;quot;; their protests which are classed as subversive and a
threat to political stability. And because they are perceived as a
threat, they become objects to be controlled, the legitimate subjects
of yet further enclosure. ...&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt; People who would oppose dams, logging, the redevelopment of their
neighbourhoods or the pollution of their rivers are often left few
means of expressing or arguing their case unless they are prepared to
engage in a debate framed by the languages of cost-benefit analysis,
reductionist science, utilitarianism, male domination -- and,
increasingly, English. Not only are these languages in which many local
objection -- such as that which holds ancestral community rights to a
particular place to have precedence over the imperatives of &amp;quot;national
development&amp;quot; -- appear disreputable. They are also languages whose use
allows enclosers to eavesdrop on, &amp;quot;correct&amp;quot; and dominate the
conversations of the enclosed. ...&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt; Because they hold themselves to be speaking a universal language,
the modern enclosers who work for development agencies and governments
feel no qualms in presuming to speak for the enclosed. They assume
reflexively that they understand their predicament as well as or better
than the enclosed do themselves. It is this tacit assumption that
legitimizes enclosure in the encloser&amp;#39;s mind - and it is an assumption
that cannot be countered simply by transferring what are
conventionbally assumed to be the trappings of power from one group to
another....&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt; A space for the commons cannot be created by economists,
development planners, legislators, &amp;quot;empowerment&amp;quot; specialists or other
paternalistic outsiders. To place the future in the hands of such
individuals would be to maintain the webs of power that are currently
stifling commons regimes. One cannot legislate the commons into
existence; nor can the commons be reclaimed simply by adopting &amp;quot;green
techniques&amp;quot; such as organic agriculture, alternative energy strategies
or better public transport -- necessary and desirable though such
techniques often are. Rather, commons regimes emerge through ordinary
people&amp;#39;s day-to-day resistance to enclosure, and through their efforts
to regain livelihoods and the mutual support, responsibility and trust
that sustain the commons.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt; That is not to say that one can ignore policy-makers or
policy-making. The depredations of transnational corporations,
international bureaucracies and national governments cannot be allowed
to go unchallenged. But movements for social change have a
responsibility to ensure that in seeking solutions, they do not remove
the initiative from those who are defending their commons or attempting
to regenerate common regimes -- a responsibility they should take
seriously.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Might there be good reason NOT to rush into a vast expansion of government world-wide?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://mises.org/Community/aggbug.aspx?PostID=265713" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/archive/tags/Austrians/default.aspx">Austrians</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/archive/tags/ostrom/default.aspx">ostrom</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/archive/tags/commons/default.aspx">commons</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/archive/tags/Enviro+Derangement+Syndrome/default.aspx">Enviro Derangement Syndrome</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/archive/tags/climate+change/default.aspx">climate change</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/archive/tags/John+Quiggin/default.aspx">John Quiggin</category></item><item><title>Positive sum games: Get yer Elinor Ostrom here! A reprise of posts on rolling up our sleeves to address real problems that "markets" (&amp; govt.) now aggravate</title><link>http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/archive/2009/10/17/positive-sum-games-get-yer-elinor-ostrom-here-a-reprise-of-tokyotom-posts-on-rolling-up-our-sleeves-to-address-real-problems-that-at-present-quot-markets-quot-aggravate.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 15:33:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">944abf2b-d1be-4bf2-990d-438cb0e377e9:261283</guid><dc:creator>TokyoTom</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><wfw:commentRss xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/">http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/rsscomments.aspx?PostID=261283</wfw:commentRss><wfw:comment xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/">http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/commentapi.aspx?PostID=261283</wfw:comment><comments>http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/archive/2009/10/17/positive-sum-games-get-yer-elinor-ostrom-here-a-reprise-of-tokyotom-posts-on-rolling-up-our-sleeves-to-address-real-problems-that-at-present-quot-markets-quot-aggravate.aspx#comments</comments><description>&lt;p&gt;I excerpt below, in chronological order, portions of &lt;a href="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/search.aspx?q=ostrom"&gt;my prior posts here&lt;/a&gt; that refer to &lt;a href="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/archive/2009/10/16/elinor-ostrom-austrian-praise-for-the-nobel-laureate-and-a-reprise-of-my-posts-on-her-thoughts-on-how-human-communities-successly-manage-commons.aspx"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Elinor Ostrom&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; (the political scientist who recently was awarded the Nobel prize in economics) and are indebted to her thinking.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt; Perhaps items 3 and 10 are most accessible for readers in a hurry to find links to her own work.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;1.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;a href="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/archive/2007/09/27/too-many-or-too-few-people-does-the-market-provide-an-answer.aspx"&gt;Too Many or Too Few People? Does the market provide an answer?&lt;/a&gt;, Sep 28 2007:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;Too many or too few? Good question, Dan.
I agree with you that the population question is like any other aspect
of the social order: best addressed by the market and by free societies.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;There are just a few small problems - even within the developed
world (and very clearly outside of it), there are many important
resources that are &lt;b&gt;unowned&lt;/b&gt; and thus not fully priced in the &amp;quot;market&amp;quot; economy. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;Unowned resources include almost all of Nature.&amp;nbsp; Primary
productivity (the amount of vegetation produced from photosynthesis)
has changed little, so as we&amp;nbsp;use technology and our organizational
abilities to divert more and more of it to feed us, this is&amp;nbsp;an
inevitable cost to other species, either directly or in the form of
altered environments that support less life (and less diversity of
life).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;In altering our environments to suit us, we are of course no
different from other life forms that compete for resources to live and
propagate, but with our technical and organizational abilities, mankind
has&amp;nbsp;clearly triumphed over the rest of nature (except perhaps evolving
microbes, to whom we represent an increasingly large and relatively
untapped food source). But at what cost? &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;Through the centuries we have wiped out many wild systems of food
and other resources - because they were never owned, and because our
improving technology enabled us to race each other to take the
resources before others (or from others, in the case of many native
peoples). Not only &lt;b&gt;Jared Diamond`s&lt;/b&gt; &amp;quot;guns, germs and steel&amp;quot;, but
also&lt;b&gt; forms of social organization have played deciding roles in the
competition between human societies for survival, growth and
dominance.&amp;nbsp; In this regard, societies that recognize and protect
property rights and utilize free markets have proven clearly superior
in the competition with&amp;nbsp;other societies to obtain and utilize available
resources.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;But our struggle has been not only to capture resources and to use
them before others do, but also to manage and protect them
effectively.&amp;nbsp; Evolving ownership systems have been a key means of
limiting wasteful &amp;quot;tragedy of the commons&amp;quot; struggles (see &lt;a href="http://www.thefreemanonline.org/featured/the-commons-tragedy-or-triumph/"&gt;Yandle&lt;/a&gt;; &lt;a href="http://mises.org/Community/controlpanel/blogs/tokyotom/archive/2007/10/11/draft.aspx"&gt;von Mises&lt;/a&gt;),
but even&amp;nbsp;where ownership systems have been implemented, we have
generally replaced complex natural systems with simpler systems
designed solely to feed us (and particularly so where, due to higher
consumptive demand, we have replaced common property systems with
private property systems (&lt;a href="http://mises.org/Community/controlpanel/blogs/tokyotom/archive/2007/10/12/building-property-rights-for-common-resources.aspx"&gt;Ostrom&lt;/a&gt;)).&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;Meanwhile, virtually all of the natural world - the world&amp;#39;s oceans,
atmosphere, tropical reefs, tropical forests and other great commons -
remain unowned and thus unmanaged and unregulated (or indigenous
occupants have been forced aside).&amp;nbsp; For example, the great cod fishery
off of the Grand Banks that fed Europe for centuries has now
disappeared, and other fishery stocks worldwide are crashing - to be
&amp;quot;replaced&amp;quot; by &amp;quot;farmed&amp;quot; fish that are fed to a substantial degree by
catching and grinding up fish stocks that humans prefer not to consume
directly, and in part by fish firms that are established by destroying
the mangroves that are estuaries to various fisheries.&amp;nbsp; The same is
true of the replacement of vast tracts of tropical forests with
soybeans or oil palm plantations, with the rapid increase in
atmospheric CO2 (and attendant risks to climate) and with the
correspondingly geolologically rapid increases in ocean acidification (and
threats to plankton, corals and shellfish).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;While populations in the developed economies are now relatively
stable, demand from our markets (as well as the burgeoning developing
markets) continues to strip out unowned (or mismanaged &amp;quot;public&amp;quot;)
resources from the oceans or undeveloped countries, aided by
kleptocratic elites who are happy to steal from the peoples they
supposedly represent in order to line their own pockets.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;As Dan points out,&amp;nbsp;property rights failures in poorer nations
contributes to population growth there by delaying the demographic
transitions that we have experienced.&amp;nbsp; &lt;b&gt;Developed economies face similar
problems with respect to &amp;quot;public&amp;quot;, state-owned&amp;nbsp;lands, for which
rent-seeking by and sweet deals to insiders are enduring problems and
sources of politcal conflict (as markets cannot work to allocate
resources).&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;Dan states that the stunningly rapid growth of human populations
from the Renaissance to the present (6+ billion now expected to nearly
double again soon)&amp;nbsp;&amp;quot;actually represents the rise of capitalism and
capital development ... [and]&amp;nbsp; shows ... the stunning capacity of
freedom to provide for the whole world.&amp;quot;&amp;nbsp; While partly correct, this
misses completely the question of &lt;b&gt;our massive impact, within a very
short period of geological time, on the environment in which we evolved
over millions of years, the fact this has occurred because&amp;nbsp;clear and
enforceable property rights have not been created in many of the
resources that have been consumed, and the corollary fact that
we&amp;nbsp;continue to lack the ability to manage our impact on our endowment
of natural resources.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;The market clearly does&amp;nbsp;NOT send accurate pricing signals with
respect to goods that are unowned or ineffectively owned; these goods
are either unpriced or underpriced, so the effect is overconsumption
until the point that the resource is greatly degraded, at which point
attention is turned to the next unowned resource. &lt;/b&gt;Thus, human
populations are responding to rather imperfect market signals.&amp;nbsp; And
&lt;b&gt;where resources are unowned, individuals and groups with differing
values and desires cannot adjust or realize those desires by means of
private, market transactions.&amp;nbsp; As a result, we are seeing&amp;nbsp;a&amp;nbsp;recourse to
the public and political arenas -&amp;nbsp;and the inevitable discordant debates
- as various parties seek to use either moral suasion or the levers of
government (locally, nationally and internationally) to advance what
they consider to be their own interests.&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp; (Of course, in a &amp;quot;tragedy of
the commons&amp;quot; situation, all resource users share an interest is the
future availability of a resource; the difficulty is in the prisoners&amp;#39;
dilemma negotiations at the primary user level about how to allocate
short-term pain in the interest of long-term gains, compounded in the
case of multinational resources by rent-seeking with each national
participant.)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;A cynic may say that our ongoing assault on nature&amp;nbsp;is only
&amp;quot;natural&amp;quot;,&amp;nbsp;presents no moral or philosophical issues and&amp;nbsp;that we hardly
owe any responsibilities to &amp;quot;nature&amp;quot; or even &amp;quot;future generations&amp;quot; -&amp;nbsp; so
let&amp;#39;s just all keep on partying, consuming for today, and patting
ourselves on the back at how marvelous our market systems are.&amp;nbsp; And
that we should keep on hurling invective at those evil &amp;quot;enviros&amp;quot; who
want to crash the party and drag us all back to the Stone Age.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;Perhaps I suffer from a want of sufficient cynicism.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;2. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;a href="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/archive/2007/10/12/building-property-rights-for-common-resources.aspx"&gt;Using the State to solve common resource problems?&lt;/a&gt;, Oct 12 2007:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;How exactly do you transfer commons into private ownership in a fair way, even for easily divided up stuff like land?&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Libertarians do not insist that open-access resources (or common
property resources/CPR) be divided up by creating individual property
rights; cooperative ownership&amp;nbsp; via formal agreements or informally
developed practices and customs (such those developed by Maine
lobstermen,&amp;nbsp;English angling clubs, indigenous peoples and Wikipedia and
online communities) may work better at solving the prisoners&amp;#39; dilemma
issues and are just as acceptable&lt;/b&gt;. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;But technological advances and greater demand often swamp CPR
regimes, so such regimes remain vulnerable if they are not accorded
legal protection. My understanding of the UK enclosures in this regard
is that they were actually a legislative theft of common property by
the powerful. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Can states play positive roles in solving problems? At least
internally, it is rather clear that the answer is that the state works
best by allowing, and providing judicial mechanisms to enforce, private
transactions, and works least well when it tries to specify detailed
and rigid &amp;quot;solutions&amp;quot; itself - since the government itself never has
perfect information, often plays favorites and once a regulatory regime
is put in place, parties have no ability to work out their differences
directly with each other, but are forever in the position of trying to
influence the state and in adversarial positions vis-a-vis each other.&amp;nbsp;
But states can also play a positive role by disseminating information
and by acting to facilitate deals between various resources users,
particularly in&amp;nbsp;cross-border/multi-state problems.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Elinor Ostrom&lt;/b&gt; is the guru of CPR regimes; anyone interested
should&amp;nbsp;look into her fascinating and highly-regarded work, particularly
her seminal &lt;b&gt;Governing the Commons&lt;/b&gt; (1990). &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;[She is a member of the American Academy of Arts and Sciences, the
National Academy of Sciences, and the American Philosophical Society,
and a recipient of a number of prestigious awards. Her other books
include&amp;nbsp;&lt;span style="text-decoration:underline;"&gt;Rules, Games, and&amp;nbsp;Common-Pool Resources&lt;/span&gt; (1994); &lt;span style="text-decoration:underline;"&gt;The Commons in the New Millennium: Challenges and Adaptations&lt;/span&gt; (2003); &lt;span style="text-decoration:underline;"&gt;The Samaritan&amp;rsquo;s Dilemma: The Political Economy of Development Aid &lt;/span&gt;(2005); &lt;span style="text-decoration:underline;"&gt;Understanding Institutional Diversity&lt;/span&gt; (2005); and &lt;span style="text-decoration:underline;"&gt;Understanding Knowledge as a Commons: From Theory to Practice&lt;/span&gt; (2007).]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;Here is one link to get readers started:&amp;nbsp; Elinor Ostrom et al.,
Revisiting the Commons: Local Lessons, Global Challenges, Science 9
April 1999: &lt;a href="http://conservationcommons.org/media/document/docu-wyycyz.pdf"&gt;http://conservationcommons.org/media/document/docu-wyycyz.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;Technology seems to provide us ability to create property rights regimes in ocean fisheries. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://mises.org/Community/controlpanel/blogs/tokyotom/archive/2007/09/27/too-many-or-too-few-people-does-the-market-provide-an-answer.aspx"&gt;The
stickiest problems are those where the resource is located in a country
where we cannot ourselves create or enforce legal rights and in the
atmosphere, which no one owns and to which all have access.&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;
Unfortunately, many libertarians don&amp;#39;t even want to acknowledge, much
less discuss, these problems. Since they are&amp;nbsp;not&amp;nbsp;confined to any one
country, clearly we need to coordinate with others - for which
purposes&amp;nbsp;our state apparatus cannot be avoided.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;Reaching any kind of effective solution for problems of this type
will require much more focussed attention and bridge-building (abroad
and at home), and if libertarians do not want to be part of the
discussion, clearly they will have little influence on the results.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;3. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;a href="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/archive/2007/10/15/sophmoric-optimism.aspx"&gt;Sophomoric optimism?&lt;/a&gt;, Oct 16 2007:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;Our states are merely one subset of the wide&amp;nbsp;universe of formal and
informal institutions through which we cooperate with one another.&amp;nbsp;
States are not a market, to be sure, but then neither are corporations,
and there is a spectrum of ownership types&amp;nbsp;between the two.&amp;nbsp; We can
study all of these institutions and use that knowledge to direct how we
make use of them.&amp;nbsp; Such study has informed, for example, the deliberate
shifts in policy that have led to the ongoing (yet incomplete)
privatization&amp;nbsp;of the former USSR and of China.&amp;nbsp; &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;A &lt;a href="http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/abstract/284/5412/278"&gt;study of institutions governing common pool resources&lt;/a&gt; by guru &lt;b&gt;Elinor Ostrom&lt;/b&gt; makes the following point:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;quot;&lt;span&gt;Whether people are able to self-organize and manage CPRs also depends on the broader social setting within which they work. &lt;b&gt;National governments can help or hinder local self-organization.&lt;/b&gt; &lt;b style="mso-bidi-font-weight:normal;"&gt;&amp;quot;Higher&amp;quot;
levels of government can facilitate the assembly of users of a CPR in
organizational meetings, provide information that helps identify the
problem and possible solutions, and legitimize and help enforce
agreements reached by local users. National governments can at times,
however, hinder local self-organization by defending rights that lead
to overuse or maintaining that the state has ultimate control over
resources without actually monitoring and enforcing existing
regulations. &lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;b&gt;&amp;quot;Participants are more likely to adopt effective rules in
macro-regimes that facilitate their efforts than in regimes that ignore
resource problems entirely or that presume that central authorities
must make all decisions.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;b style="mso-bidi-font-weight:normal;"&gt;If local authority is not formally recognized by larger regimes, it is difficult for users to establish enforceable rules.&lt;/b&gt; &amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;Elinor Ostrom et al., &lt;span style="text-decoration:underline;"&gt;Revisiting the Commons: Local Lessons, Global Challenges&lt;/span&gt;, Science, 04/09/99 &lt;a href="http://conservationcommons.org/media/document/docu-wyycyz.pdf"&gt;http://conservationcommons.org/media/document/docu-wyycyz.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;Was &lt;b&gt;von Mises&lt;/b&gt; foolish to suggest we can use the state to reform our institutions?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;ldquo;It is true that where a considerable part of the costs incurred are
external costs from the point of view of the acting individuals or
firms, the economic calculation established by them is manifestly
defective and their results deceptive. But this is not the outcome of
alleged deficiencies inherent in the system of private ownership of the
means of production.&lt;b&gt; It is on the contrary a consequence of
loopholes left in this system. It could be removed by a reform of the
laws concerning liability for damages inflicted and by rescinding the
institutional barriers preventing the full operation of private
ownership.&lt;/b&gt;&amp;rdquo;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/archive/2008/01/21/poor-countries-need-capitalism-not-climate-change-welfare.aspx"&gt;http://mises.org/humanaction/chap23sec6.asp&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;And &lt;b&gt;Cordato&lt;/b&gt;, for suggesting that Austrians take particular &lt;span style="text-decoration:underline;"&gt;policy&lt;/span&gt; approaches to environmental issues?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&amp;quot;For Austrians then, public policy in the area of the
environment must focus on resolving these conflicts over the use of
resources that define pollution, not on obtaining an ultimately
unobtainable &amp;quot;efficient&amp;quot; allocation of resources. ... &lt;/b&gt;For &lt;b&gt;Austrians, whose goal is to resolve conflicts&lt;/b&gt;, the focus is on clarifying titles to property and rights enforcement.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://mises.org/story/1760"&gt;http://mises.org/story/1760&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;Sorry, but I cannot believe that we are&amp;nbsp;condemned always&amp;nbsp;to repeat
all mistakes, despite our rather constant human nature.&amp;nbsp; Rather, as &lt;b&gt;Yandle&lt;/b&gt; notes, &lt;b&gt;our very history as a species is about our success in evolving, devising and adopting ways to manage shared problem&lt;/b&gt;s.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;a href="http://www.fee.org/publications/the-freeman/article.asp?aid=4064"&gt;http://www.fee.org/publications/the-freeman/article.asp?aid=4064&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;This is a message of profound optimism, not cynicism --- said the fool.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;4.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;a href="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/archive/2007/10/15/reason-congratulations-to-al-gore.aspx"&gt;Ron Bailey of Reason congratulates Al Gore &lt;/a&gt;, Oct 15 2007:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;1.&amp;nbsp; You were right last year when you
said that &amp;quot;In the end, the debate over global warming and its obverse,
humanity&amp;#39;s energy future, &lt;b&gt;is a moral issue&lt;/b&gt;.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.reason.com/blog/show/113924.html"&gt;http://www.reason.com/blog/show/113924.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;2.&amp;nbsp; I share your understanding of the
economics and institutional problem and agree that a straightforward
explanation of these is important for very many.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;3.&amp;nbsp; However, &lt;b&gt;you forget what
evolutionary psychology, Ostrom and Yandle have explained to us so well
about how our innate moral sense drives and underpins mankind&amp;#39;s success
as a species by enhancing our ability to&amp;nbsp;cooperate and to overcome
commons issues.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Ostrom&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;a href="http://conservationcommons.org/media/document/docu-wyycyz.pdf"&gt;http://conservationcommons.org/media/document/docu-wyycyz.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Yandle&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;a href="http://www.fee.org/publications/the-freeman/article.asp?aid=4064"&gt;http://www.fee.org/publications/the-freeman/article.asp?aid=4064&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Our long history of developed rules and
institutions (informal and formal now overlapping) are based on our
moral sense and the effectiveness of these rules depends critically on
our moral investment in accepting their legitimacy - witness our views
on murder, theft, lying and &amp;quot;not playing by the rules&amp;quot; - and in
voluntarily complying with them.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Our moral sense reinforces our judgments
about when rules/institutions are not working and the need to develop
new ones in response to changing circumstances and new problems.&amp;nbsp; When
we see a problem that we think requires change, it is unavoidable that
we respond the the status quo, the behavior of people within it and the
need for change with a moral sense.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/b&gt; &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;This is simply a part of our
evolutionary endowment.&amp;nbsp; (Of course, other parts of our endowment
accentuate our suspicions of smooth talkers and help us catch free
riders and looters and to guard against threats from outsiders.)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;4.&amp;nbsp; Accordingly, while it&amp;#39;s unclear how
deliberate Gore&amp;#39;s&amp;nbsp;talk of &amp;quot;a moral and spiritual challenge&amp;quot; and
&amp;quot;lifting the global consciousness&amp;quot; is or whether this is a
productive&amp;nbsp;approach for some people, I think it is fairly clear that,
&lt;b&gt;in order to build consensus for a solution to the climate commons
problem (and other difficult commons problems) and to ensure that any
agreed solutions are actually implemented, we will need to bring our
moral senses to bear.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;In other words, it is RIGHT to worry
about climate change, but no meaningful/effective &amp;quot;solution&amp;quot; can be
reached or implemented unless it is FAIR and the parties involved have
sufficient TRUST (backed by information) in each other.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;5. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;a href="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/archive/2008/01/21/poor-countries-need-capitalism-not-climate-change-welfare.aspx"&gt;Not Climate Change Welfare, But Capitalism and Free Markets&lt;/a&gt;, Jan 22 2008:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt; &lt;b&gt;[F]ar from &amp;quot;forc[ing] rich countries to become poor&amp;quot;,
figuring out how to manage a global commons like the atmosphere, while
it may have the effect of imposing a cost on the release of carbon, is
basically aimed at privatising externalities, with the intention of
increasing the efficiency of private transactions and net wealth.&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Climate
change is, of course, just one of a broad range of pervasive problems
that occur when markets encounter resources that are not clearly or
effectively owned or managed.&amp;nbsp; &lt;a href="http://mises.org/Community/controlpanel/blogs/tokyotom/archive/2007/09/28/too-many-or-too-few-people-does-the-market-provide-an-answer.aspx"&gt;http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/archive/2007/09/28/too-many-or-too-few-people-does-the-market-provide-an-answer.aspx&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;3.&amp;nbsp; Most importantly, while Lockitch correctly diagnoses the illness
- poor countries need to &amp;quot;embrace free markets and private property
rights and attract the investment of profit-seeking entrepreneurs to
create wealth and drive economic growth&amp;quot; - he &lt;b&gt;simply fails to address what wealthy nations SHOULD be doing, if anything, to assist the cure.&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;b&gt;This,
of course, is the main dodge, because Lockitch fails to own up to the
true difficulties involved in trying to help the developing nations.&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Trying to build &amp;quot;soft&amp;quot; infrastructure in the form of rule of
law and property rights (ending kleptocracy and theft of &amp;quot;public&amp;quot;
resources) is tremendously difficult - perhaps a problem that is even
more difficult than the wealthy nations deciding how to share the pain
of GHG reductions&lt;/b&gt; (as I noted in comments to a post on Amazonian deforestation here: &lt;a href="http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/prometheus/archives/climate_change/001043lahsen_and_nobre_20.html"&gt;http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/prometheus/archives/climate_change/001043lahsen_and_nobre_20.html&lt;/a&gt;)&amp;nbsp; &lt;b&gt;Heck,
the wealthy&amp;nbsp;nations have a hard enough time doing the easiest things to
speed development of poorer nations, which is simply to open import
markets by removing domestic tariffs, import restrictions&amp;nbsp;and subsidies.&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp;
Rather, it seems that the richer nations have to feed their more
powerful elites first, while hamstringing competition from poorer
nations in products for which they should be able to exploit a
comparative advantage.&amp;nbsp; &lt;b&gt;If Lockitch was truly interested in
helping the poor of developing nations, you&amp;#39;d think he&amp;#39;d note how
enduring rent-seeking at home serves to keep the poorer nations down.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;And if the wealthy nations &lt;i&gt;should&lt;/i&gt; do something to help
poorer nations, which seems implicit in Lockitch&amp;#39;s analysis (if not
conventional aid, then aid to build soft, governance infrastructure),
then can&amp;#39;t some of those efforts easily dovetail with efforts to
establish carbon pricing in the wealthy countries?&amp;nbsp; Why couldn&amp;#39;t aid
budgets be funded&amp;nbsp;by carbon taxes at home, for example?&amp;nbsp; And can&amp;#39;t
demand for &amp;quot;carbon credits&amp;quot; help to establish incentives to improve
governance infrastructure in poorer nations?&amp;nbsp; In other words,
&amp;quot;mitigation&amp;quot; (efforts to limit climate change) in&amp;nbsp;developed
nations&amp;nbsp;need not conflict with any efforts to help poorer
nations&amp;nbsp;&amp;quot;adapt&amp;quot; to climate change or otherwise become wealthier.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;4.&amp;nbsp; Lockitch asserts that the concern of enviros for the world&amp;rsquo;s
poor is &amp;quot;feigned&amp;quot;, but this is a cheap and unproductive ad hominem -
and one that can easily be turned around.&amp;nbsp; &lt;b&gt;While some enviros may not
understand the institutional sicknesses that hinder development, this
illness has been fed much more by governments and corporations at home
than by enviros, many of who have been involved in the long,
hard&amp;nbsp;effort to build local infrastructure and to protect traditional
private and community property rights.&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;On the other hand, &lt;b&gt;just what is it that evidences that
Lockitch himself - or other skeptics - have any &amp;quot;real&amp;quot; concern for the
world&amp;#39;s poor?&amp;nbsp; Does the wheel of this concern ever hit the road, or is
it simply spinning noisily, to welcoming nods from&amp;nbsp; domestic special
interests who benefit from the continuation of climate externalities?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;A key insight of Austrian economics relating to the environment is that&lt;/b&gt; man does not harm the environment per se, but that&amp;nbsp;&lt;b&gt;social
welfare or efficiency problems arise because of interpersonal conflict
associated with irresolvable inefficiencies - inefficiencies that
cannot find a solution in the entrepreneurial workings of the market
process&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp;because of institutional defects associated with the
lack of clearly defined or well enforced property rights.&amp;nbsp; (See &lt;b&gt;Roy
Cordato&lt;/b&gt;, &lt;a href="http://mises.org/Community/story/1760"&gt;http://mises.org/story/1760&lt;/a&gt;).&amp;nbsp;
It is both ironic and disappointing that many&amp;nbsp;Austrians and others
similarly minded, rather than focussing on the difficult task of
conflict resolution in the case of the climate, seem to prefer the
emotional rush of conflict itself over analysis and bridge- and
consensus-building.&amp;nbsp; But this is nothing new (and is certainly
tempting, given our tribal nature)(&lt;a href="http://mises.org/Community/controlpanel/blogs/tokyotom/archive/2007/12/17/holiday-joy-quot-watermelons-quot-roasting-on-an-open-pyre.aspx"&gt;http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/archive/2007/12/17/holiday-joy-quot-watermelons-quot-roasting-on-an-open-pyre.aspx&lt;/a&gt;).&amp;nbsp; &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;No one owns the world&amp;#39;s atmosphere, so all are entitled to
their opinions about managing it.&amp;nbsp; And clearly the world continues to
struggle with the rapid exploitation of other unowned, &amp;quot;public&amp;quot; or
poorly defined&amp;nbsp;or protected physical resources, in the face of growing
populations, growing markets and technological advances that lower the
costs of access to the commons.&amp;nbsp; I suggest that rather than ad
hominems, we would be better served by&amp;nbsp;frankly acknowledging problems
of this nature and starting to build shared understandings.&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp; The writings of &lt;b&gt;Elinor Ostrom &lt;/b&gt;are a good place to start:&amp;nbsp; &lt;a href="http://www.conservationcommons.org/media/document/docu-7e8akm.pdf"&gt;http://www.conservationcommons.org/media/document/docu-7e8akm.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;In honestly engaging on these issues, &lt;b&gt;it is perfectly
appropriate - nay, essential - to be aware of the self-interests of
various participants and to caution against the problems of
rent-seeking, &amp;quot;rent-farming&amp;quot; by politicians, and frequently unaligned
incentives of bureaucracies&lt;/b&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;5.&amp;nbsp; Finally, this is a quibble, but&amp;nbsp;Lockitch is wrong to assert thay &lt;b&gt;developing&lt;/b&gt; &lt;b&gt;nations need&lt;/b&gt; to &amp;quot;industrialize&amp;quot;.&amp;nbsp; What they need to do is to &lt;b&gt;better govern themselves by protecting investments,&amp;nbsp;markets and human rights, and then getting out of the way of their people.&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp;
What results will be these countries&amp;#39; own path, which will naturally
differ from Western industrialization (leapfrogging it in some ways).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;6.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;a href="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/archive/2009/02/05/rob-bradley-cheers-on-coal-but-are-all-those-who-want-to-better-manage-commons-and-environmental-impacts-quot-malthusian-quot-idiots-or-only-in-the-case-of-coal.aspx"&gt;Rob Bradley cheers on coal, but are all those who want to better manage commons and environmental impacts &amp;quot;Malthusian&amp;quot; idiots, or only in the case of coal?&lt;/a&gt;, Feb 5 2009:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Rob Bradley&lt;/b&gt; has a &lt;a href="http://masterresource.org/?p=669&amp;amp;cpage=1#comment-238"&gt;new post up at MasterResource&lt;/a&gt;, cheering on big&amp;nbsp;(and now &amp;quot;clean&amp;quot;) coal,&amp;nbsp;which has apparently received assurances&amp;nbsp;from the &lt;b&gt;Obama&lt;/b&gt; administration - after being bad-mouthed by NASA scientist &lt;a href="http://mises.org/Community/controlpanel/blogs/tokyotom/archive/2008/06/28/big-coal-is-very-concerned-about-how-jim-hansen-is-quot-cheapening-the-dialogue-quot.aspx"&gt;Jim Hansen&lt;/a&gt;, Steven Chu and Obama himself - that, despite&amp;nbsp;pressures from the &lt;b&gt;&amp;quot;Malthusian anti-energy crusade&amp;quot;&lt;/b&gt; regarding climate change impacts, the recent &lt;a href="http://mises.org/Community/controlpanel/blogs/tokyotom/archive/2008/12/26/quot-clean-coal-quot-leaves-a-big-mess-which-faceless-employee-manager-or-shareholder-committed-this-tort.aspx"&gt;massive TVA fly-ash spill&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://mises.org/Community/controlpanel/blogs/tokyotom/archive/2008/12/08/bush-s-advent-message-on-appalachian-coal-quot-every-valley-shall-be-raised-up-every-mountain-and-hill-made-low-quot.aspx"&gt;opposition&lt;/a&gt; to&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://mises.org/Community/controlpanel/blogs/tokyotom/archive/2008/03/03/are-those-who-homes-and-health-are-injured-by-mountain-top-removal-in-w-va-and-e-tennessee-snivelling-evil-enviros.aspx"&gt;destructive mountaintop removal practices&lt;/a&gt; in Appalachia,&amp;nbsp;coal will remain profitable during Obama&amp;#39;s term and central to US energy supplies.&amp;nbsp; Hooray!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;But I wasn&amp;#39;t quite clear on all of Rob&amp;#39;s message, so I asked him a &lt;a href="http://masterresource.org/?p=669&amp;amp;cpage=1#comment-238"&gt;few questions in the comment thread&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:60px;"&gt;Rob, are the &lt;b&gt;John Baden&lt;/b&gt;s, &lt;b&gt;Terry Anderson&lt;/b&gt;s, &lt;b&gt;Bruce Yandle&lt;/b&gt;s, &lt;b&gt;Elinor Ostrom&lt;/b&gt;s
and others who want to find ways to manage our commons better - by
improving ownership, incentives and pricing signals - also part of a[n
evil]&amp;nbsp;&amp;ldquo;Malthusian crusade&amp;rdquo;?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:60px;"&gt;I just wanna make sure I know who to hate.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:60px;"&gt;As for that big fly-ash breach/spill in
Tennessee, I&amp;rsquo;m glad that you didn&amp;rsquo;t point out how this was a result of
government ownership of TVA, with the added benefit that costs will be
borne not only by direct and indirect victims, but by taxpayers as
well. No sense in pointing out how government is so often in the way,
particularly if it detracts from our &amp;ldquo;we hate enviros!&amp;rdquo; message. Last
thing we ever want to do is to reach a shared understanding with
enviros of the institutional underpinnings of problems, since that
means our funders might lose some of their fairly purchased,
government-given special privileges.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;While it&amp;#39;s&amp;nbsp;clear that &amp;quot;free-market&amp;quot; Rob cares little about whether the coal industry &lt;span style="text-decoration:underline;"&gt;continues
commercial activities that shift the environmental costs and risks
(including potential costs arising from GHG emissions)&amp;nbsp;to others&lt;/span&gt;,
I forgot to ask Rob whether, as a hearty cheerleader for those poor
coal underdogs, he also supports their position that&amp;nbsp;the government
should subsidize their change in business model by (a) &lt;a href="http://www.greentechmedia.com/articles/picking-a-fight-with-the-doe-545.html" class="null"&gt;having Uncle Sam pay the bulk of capital costs for IGCC&lt;/a&gt; (integrated gas combined cycle plant) [something like $1 billion for the first one with CCS],&amp;nbsp;(b) giving them &lt;a href="http://www.futurecoalfuels.org/documents/050406_palmer.pdf" class="null"&gt;a further break (reduced royalties) on the sweet deals they&amp;nbsp;already have&lt;/a&gt;
for stripping coal from public lands and (c) - now that the federal
government is getting into the busy of running the financial sector -
making sure that power producers that want to use coal have easy access
to credit, by twisting the arms of those uppity Wall Street financiers
who with their fancy &lt;a href="http://mises.org/Community/controlpanel/blogs/tokyotom/archive/2008/02/14/voluntary-action-on-climate-change-wall-street-s-new-quot-carbon-principles-quot.aspx%20"&gt;new &amp;quot;Carbon Principles&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Enhanced Due Diligence&amp;quot;&lt;/a&gt; seem a bit too reluctant to extend credit for coal-fired power plants.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;Here&amp;#39;s hoping Rob weighs in further.&amp;nbsp; I want to make sure I&amp;#39;m not
messing up when I try to distinguish the &amp;quot;white hats&amp;quot; from the &amp;quot;black
hats&amp;quot;.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; From what I can tell so far, seeking to manipulate government
policy for your own benefit is evil - as long as you&amp;#39;re not a coal
firm - and we call the evil ones &amp;quot;Malthusians&amp;quot;.&amp;nbsp; Right?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;7.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;a href="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/archive/2009/05/11/more-stupid-from-tierney-this-time-on-quot-kuznets-curve-quot-and-the-dynamics-of-quot-quot-wealthier-and-greener-quot.aspx"&gt;More stupid from Tierney; this time on &amp;quot;Kuznets curve&amp;quot; and the dynamics of &amp;quot;wealthier and greener&amp;quot;&lt;/a&gt;, May 12 2009: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;Tierney seems to believe that the Kuznets curve means that greater
wealth magically makes for a cleaner environment. &amp;nbsp;To the contrary, &lt;b&gt;it
is the hard work of people, expressing their desires to protect their
own property and to realize other preferences regarding shared
resources, to increase wealth&amp;nbsp;by finding means (property rights
institutions, litigation and government regulation) to&amp;nbsp;end tragedy of
the commons-type situtations, who improve their environment.&lt;/b&gt; &lt;b&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;span style="font-weight:normal;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;That is, working to close externalities leads to both wealthier and greener societies. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight:normal;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight:normal;"&gt;(I`ve &lt;a href="http://mises.org/Community/controlpanel/blogs/tokyotom/search.aspx?q=kuznets"&gt;remarked on the Kuznets curve before&lt;/a&gt;; interestingly, conservatives seem to misunderstand it more than liberals.)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight:normal;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight:normal;"&gt;So
I tried to offer a more libertarian understanding, which I`ve taken the
liberty of memorializing here (with typo correction and emphasis and
further links added):&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div style="padding-left:60px;" class="comment_intro"&gt;&lt;span class="comment_author fn"&gt;&lt;a href="http://mises.org/Community/controlpanel/blogs/tokyotom" rel="external nofollow" class="url"&gt;TokyoTom&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="comment_meta comment-meta commentmetadata"&gt;&lt;a href="http://timetochooseagain.wordpress.com/2009/04/21/richer-and-greener-yes-thats-the-way-it-goes/#comment-254"&gt;April 22, 2009 at 6:28 am&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;p style="padding-left:60px;"&gt;Andrew, food for thought on enviro Kuznets:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:60px;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://mises.org/Community/controlpanel/blogs/tokyotom/search.aspx?q=kuznets" rel="nofollow"&gt;http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/search.aspx?q=kuznets&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://mises.org/Community/controlpanel/blogs/tokyotom/archive/2008/01/22/poor-countries-need-capitalism-not-climate-change-welfare.aspx" rel="nofollow"&gt;http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/archive/2008/01/22/poor-countries-need-capitalism-not-climate-change-welfare.aspx&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://mises.org/Community/controlpanel/blogs/tokyotom/archive/2007/09/27/too-many-or-too-few-people-does-the-market-provide-an-answer.aspx" rel="nofollow"&gt;http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/archive/2007/09/27/too-many-or-too-few-people-does-the-market-provide-an-answer.aspx&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:60px;"&gt;Unfortunately, Tierney simply fails to understand that &lt;b&gt;the enviro
Kuznets curve does not tell us that problems relating to environmental
cost-shifting or to the over-exploitation of unowned commons are best
resolved by ignoring them and simply hoping for the best. Rather, it
affirms that as people become more wealthy, they care more about
protecting the environment and put more elbow grease into achieving
improvements - via improved property rights protection, improved
information disclosure, greater consumer pressure and even through
greater regulation (which is the path the West has largely followed),
and reaching agreements with others sharing the relevant resource).&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:60px;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;In other words, the work relating to global, regional and various
national commons (atmosphere, seas, forests, water, etc.) is still
ahead of us. Libertarians can advocate for property rights (and
privatization of public lands) as ways to have a more efficient (and
just) path on the curve, or they provide implicit support for powerful
and dirty industries by standing by and waiting until citizen pressure
groups force government to act in heavy-handed ways.&lt;/b&gt;


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&lt;p style="padding-left:60px;"&gt;&lt;span class="comment_author fn"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="comment_meta comment-meta commentmetadata"&gt;&lt;a href="http://timetochooseagain.wordpress.com/2009/04/21/richer-and-greener-yes-thats-the-way-it-goes/#comment-258"&gt;April 22, 2009 at 2:11 pm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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Andrew. I suggest that you start with &lt;a href="http://www.thefreemanonline.org/featured/the-commons-tragedy-or-triumph/%20"&gt;this short article by Yandle&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;p&gt;I have plenty more links on my blog to him, &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href="http://mises.org/Community/controlpanel/blogs/tokyotom/search.aspx?q=anderson"&gt;Terry Anderson&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;, &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href="http://mises.org/Community/controlpanel/blogs/tokyotom/search.aspx?q=mises"&gt;Mises&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;, &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href="http://mises.org/Community/controlpanel/blogs/tokyotom/search.aspx?q=cordato"&gt;Cordato&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;, &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href="http://mises.org/Community/controlpanel/blogs/tokyotom/search.aspx?q=block"&gt;Block&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;, &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href="http://mises.org/Community/controlpanel/blogs/tokyotom/search.aspx?q=Rothbard"&gt;Rothbard &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;and others on Austrian approaches to environmental issues, fisheries, and climate. &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href="http://mises.org/Community/controlpanel/blogs/tokyotom/search.aspx?q=bailey"&gt;Ron Bailey&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; (at &lt;i&gt;Reason&lt;/i&gt;) has good posts on fisheries; leading enviro groups all agree that more privatization is desirable:&lt;a href="http://mises.org/Community/controlpanel/blogs/tokyotom/archive/2009/01/15/for-crashing-fisheries-coalition-of-mainline-us-enviro-groups-calls-for-property-rights.aspx" rel="nofollow"&gt;http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/archive/2009/01/15/for-crashing-fisheries-coalition-of-mainline-us-enviro-groups-calls-for-property-rights.aspx&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Commons remain commons either because government ownership
prevents privatization (as in the Amazon, US public lands and most
fisheries management) or because full privatization is difficult. There
are many examples of the latter case that involve semi-privatization
and commons management,&lt;/b&gt; like traditional forestries, fisheries and water rights. &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href="http://mises.org/Community/controlpanel/blogs/tokyotom/search.aspx?q=ostrom"&gt;Elinor Ostrom&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; is the expert on commons; I have plenty of links to her too. ...&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;P&lt;b&gt;eople and firms invest all the time in doing
things in response to incentives, both positive and negative; viz. they
also try to reduce costs, including the costs their activities impose
on others if those they injured have rights of recourse. The effort to
reduce costs is one of the chief factors driving technological advances.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;S&lt;b&gt;urely you`re not suggesting that the best way to encourage
wealthier societies is to free people from responsibility for the
damages they cause others? That`s hardly a Lockean or libertarian view.
A &amp;ldquo;Laissez Faire approach&amp;rdquo; leaves government out, in favor of voluntary
transactions and enforecment of property rights, including rights not
to be injured. The regulatory state has in fact been a boon to the most
powerful producers, by giving them rights to pollute, often
grandfafthering dirty plants, while forcing the highest costs on more
nimble and cleaner producers. &lt;/b&gt;If you^re interested in learning
about libertarian approaches to the environment, again, I suggest you
look at Rothbard, Cordato, Block and others, whom I link to on my blog.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You seem to make reference to the enviro Kuznets curve, and how
wealthier societies bring pollution dow, while completely missing the
dynamics. &lt;b&gt;Wealthier societies clean up because they insist on
bringing an end to tragedy of the commons-type exploitation of
resources. A society that focusses on property rights typically has a
lower curve than societies that fail to enforce property rights (needed
for Coasean bargaining) in favor of government regulatory approaches.
Our own curve remains too high, because wealthier investors prefer to
use regulation to shift costs to the rest of society.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;8.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;a href="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/archive/2009/05/10/libertarians-to-lefty-enviros-without-community-based-property-rights-sustainable-fisheries-are-impossible.aspx"&gt;Libertarians to lefty-enviros: without community-based property rights, sustainable fisheries are impossible&lt;/a&gt;&lt;b&gt;, &lt;/b&gt;May 11 2009:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.perc.org/articles/article652.php"&gt;Elinor Ostrom&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp;has
also been a leader in documenting the ways that a community of users
(NOT the dread and sloppily misused &amp;quot;soc-ial-ism&amp;quot;) may effectively
manage a shared resource.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;Readers might be interested in the &lt;b&gt;World Bank&lt;/b&gt;`s Oct 2008 report, &lt;a href="http://www.globefish.org/files/Sunken%20Billions%20Report%20Advance%20Edition_659.pdf"&gt;&amp;quot;The Sunken Billions; The Economic Justification for Fisheries Reform&amp;quot;&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.perc.org/fisheriesforum.php"&gt;With support from the World Bank, PERC is in the middle of hosting a conference&lt;/a&gt;
on approaches to sustainable fisheries (and on ending the massive
over-harvesting and wasted subsidies and mal-investment under current
regulatory approaches).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;I also urge readers to look at what the organization &lt;b&gt;Defying Ocean&amp;#39;s End&lt;/b&gt; (co-founded by &lt;b&gt;Conservation International&lt;/b&gt;, &lt;b&gt;The Nature Conservancy&lt;/b&gt;, &lt;b&gt;Natural Resources Defense Council&lt;/b&gt;, &lt;b&gt;The Ocean Conservancy&lt;/b&gt;, &lt;b&gt;Wildlife Conservation Society&lt;/b&gt;, &lt;b&gt;The World Conservation Union&lt;/b&gt;, and &lt;b&gt;World Wildlife Fund&lt;/b&gt;)&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://../../blogs/tokyotom/archive/2009/01/14/for-crashing-fisheries-coalition-of-mainline-us-enviro-groups-calls-for-property-rights.aspxhttp://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/archive/2009/01/14/for-crashing-fisheries-coalition-of-mainline-us-enviro-groups-calls-for-property-rights.aspx"&gt;has to say about protecting fish&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:60px;"&gt;&amp;quot;Most of the solutions that have been
implemented or proposed to fix the world&amp;#39;s fisheries center on
command-and-control measures: regulators or courts telling fishermen
how to fish through the imposition of controls on effort (e.g., fishing
vessel length, engine horsepower, gear restrictions, etc.).
Prescriptions like these work against strong economic incentives for
maximizing catch, which are not addressed by such measures, and are of
course usually resisted by fishermen. Often, prescriptions create
incentives for &amp;quot;work-arounds&amp;quot; and set up a cat-and-mouse game between
fishermen and regulators - for example, if regulators impose a
restriction on vessel size, fishermen may purchase two vessels to
maintain high catch levels. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:60px;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&amp;quot;As in most natural resource
problems, more effective solutions will address the fundamental drivers
of unsustainable fisheries. In this case, the key necessary reform will
be to designate secure catch privileges. It is important to understand
that such privileges can be allocated to different kinds of entities in
different ways, and indeed, they should be tailored to specific
fisheries and communities to fit with local customs, traditions,
values, and social structure.&amp;quot;&lt;/b&gt; &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;I`ve linked a number of my other posts on fisheries &lt;a href="http://mises.org/Community/controlpanel/blogs/tokyotom/search.aspx?q=fish"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;9.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;a href="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/archive/2009/08/28/the-tragedy-of-the-panicked-enviro-ii.aspx"&gt;The tragedy of the panicked enviro II; understanding the &amp;quot;tragedy of the commons&amp;quot;&lt;/a&gt;, Aug 29 2009:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;Sure,
the Western
world has managed to create many environmental problems, but we`ve
largely cleaned up our own messes, haven`t we?&amp;nbsp; &lt;b&gt;While it by no means
excuses our own faults, far worse environmental problems have been
created and are still stewing in Russia and other state-directed
economies, and it`s no coincidence that the vast pollution being
created in China and India are tied to governement-owned enterprise and
an inability of injured people to sue for damages or to stop harmful
activities.&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp; And the great waves of extinctions created as man spread
around the globe tens of thousands of years ago can hardly be laid at
the foot of either the Western world or of private property rights (nor
can the collapse of earlier civilizations).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;The
&amp;quot;tragedy of the commons&amp;quot; is NOT a &amp;quot;simplistic market morality&amp;quot;, but a
description of cooperation problems and incentives relating to shared,
open-access resources.&amp;nbsp; The tragedy of the commons and problems of
cooperation - and theft - are not even limited to mankind, but permeate
nature.&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp; This perceptive article by &lt;b&gt;Bruce Yandle&lt;/b&gt; touches on competition
in nature, and links &lt;b&gt;the ascendance of man to our evolution of
relatively enhanced cooperation&lt;/b&gt;:
&lt;a href="http://www.thefreemanonline.org/featured/the-commons-tragedy-or-triumph/"&gt;http://www.thefreemanonline.org/featured/the-commons-tragedy-or-triumph/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;The
&amp;quot;tragedy of the commons&amp;quot; paradigm is useful to analyze, but the
paradigm doesn`t &amp;quot;seek to moderate&amp;quot; anything, and is just as useful in
looking at the ways Western nations still contribute to environmental
problems around the world (as I point out here:
&lt;a href="http://mises.org/Community/controlpanel/blogs/tokyotom/archive/2007/09/28/too-many-or-too-few-people-does-the-market-provide-an-answer.aspx%20"&gt;http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/archive/2007/09/28/too-many-or-too-few-people-does-the-market-provide-an-answer.aspx&lt;/a&gt;) as it is in examining:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;- environmental devastation in Haiti (which has little or no property rights, and vast free-for-all &amp;quot;government&amp;quot; holdings),&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;-
deforestation in Indonesia and the Amazon:
&lt;a href="http://mises.org/Community/controlpanel/blogs/tokyotom/archive/2009/05/24/capitalism-the-destructive-exploitation-of-the-amazon-and-the-tragedy-of-the-government-owned-commons.aspx"&gt;http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/archive/2009/05/24/capitalism-the-destructive-exploitation-of-the-amazon-and-the-tragedy-of-the-government-owned-commons.aspx&lt;/a&gt;,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;- pollution in China: &lt;a href="http://mises.org/Community/controlpanel/blogs/tokyotom/search.aspx?q=china"&gt;http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/search.aspx?q=china&lt;/a&gt;, and&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;-
crashing fisheries around the world as a result of government of marine
resources (producing free-for-alls and fleet subsidies) and a
free-for-all for other unowned or unprotected resources:
&lt;a href="http://mises.org/Community/controlpanel/blogs/tokyotom/search.aspx?q=fish"&gt;http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/search.aspx?q=fish&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;You
say: &amp;quot;The rate of exploitation and the decline
of resources, water, energy, fisheries, soil, minerals, etc., all
occured under a free market, private property paradigm.&amp;quot;&amp;nbsp; This is
clearly demonstrably wrong, and draws entirely the wrong lessons. While
private property is certainly no panacea, neither are they what is
wrong.&amp;nbsp; Very often, is is governments that have been and are wrong,
though there is certainly some learning going on.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;While
&lt;b&gt;Garrett Hardin&lt;/b&gt;`s &amp;quot;The Tragedy of the Commons&amp;quot; certainly represents a
hypothetical situation, it is actually a very powerful analytical tool
for understanding and fashioning solutions to countless &amp;quot;real life&amp;quot;
problems. See &lt;b&gt;Elinor Ostrom&lt;/b&gt; et al., Revisiting the Commons: Local Lessons, Global Challenges, Science, 04/09/99 &lt;a href="http://conservationcommons.org/media/document/docu-wyycyz.pdf"&gt;http://conservationcommons.org/media/document/docu-wyycyz.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&amp;quot;In real life,
corporations own, or vie to own, resources or access to them for the
purpose of extraction and profit and they seek to maximize profits
through economies of scale, that is industrial extraction methods,
drift netting, blowing up mountains, tossing mining waste into clear,
pristine lakes.&lt;/i&gt;&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;What
you describe here is a conflict between preferences over how resources
are used.&amp;nbsp; Do you prefer a free-for-all, or a situation where those who
use a resource can protect it, negotiate with others who wish to see
other values preserved, and who are responsible for negative
consequences caused to others (not always a part of some property
rights systems), or perhaps a situation where governments make all
resource exploitation decisions?&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&amp;quot;The money is in the resource and when the resource is
exhausted they will move on to the next one.&amp;quot;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;The
money is never in the &amp;quot;resource&amp;quot;, but in the ways that people can use
it or otherwise value it (and of course people also value pristine
environments).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;10.&amp;nbsp; &lt;a href="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/archive/2009/08/28/tragedy-of-the-panicked-enviro-iii-learning-from-elinor-ostrom-about-cooperative-action.aspx"&gt;Tragedy of the panicked enviro III: learning from Elinor Ostrom about cooperative action&lt;/a&gt;, Aug 29 2009:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;Let me add some further nuance to Mr. Worstall`s comment by saying
that Hardin`s fertile observations have fuelled extensive further
research on common property problems, with &lt;b&gt;Elinor Ostrom&lt;/b&gt; being recognized as a leading light.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;Here is one general bibliography on commons research: &lt;a href="http://www.indiana.edu/%7Eworkshop/wsl/tragedy.htm"&gt;http://www.indiana.edu/~workshop/wsl/tragedy.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;Ostrom
has refined Hardin`s work in the following way (quoting from &lt;a href="http://www.scottlondon.com/reviews/ostrom.html"&gt;a review
of Ostrom`s 1990 ground-breaking and extensively researched book&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;b&gt;GOVERNING THE COMMONS, &lt;/b&gt;The Evolution of Institutions for Collective Action):&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:60px;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Ostrom uses the term &lt;b&gt;&amp;quot;common pool resources&amp;quot;&lt;/b&gt; to denote natural
resources used by many individuals in common, such as fisheries,
groundwater basins, and irrigation systems. Such resources have long
been subject to overexploitation and misuse by individuals acting in
their own best interests. &lt;b&gt;Conventional solutions typically involve
either centralized governmental regulation or privatization of the
resource. But, according to Ostrom, there is a third approach to
resolving the problem of the commons: the design of durable cooperative
institutions that are organized and governed by the resource users
themselves.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:60px;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;&amp;quot;The central question in this
study,&amp;quot; she writes, &amp;quot;is how a group of principals who are in an
interdependent situation can organize and govern themselves to obtain
continuing joint benefits when all face temptations to free-ride,
shirk, or otherwise act opportunistically.&amp;quot;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:60px;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;The
heart of this study is an in-depth analysis of several long-standing
and viable common property regimes, including Swiss grazing pastures,
Japanese forests, and irrigation systems in Spain and the Philippines.
&lt;b&gt;Although Ostrom insists that each of these situations must be evaluated
on its own terms, she delineates a set of eight &amp;quot;design principles&amp;quot;
common to each of the cases. These include clearly defined boundaries,
monitors who are either resource users or accountable to them,
graduated sanctions, and mechanisms dominated by the users themselves
to resolve conflicts and to alter the rules. The challenge, she
observes, is to foster contingent self-commitment among the members&lt;/b&gt; ....&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:60px;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Throughout the book, she stresses the dangers of overly
generalized theories of collective action, particularly when used
&amp;quot;metaphorically&amp;quot; as the foundation for public policy. &lt;b&gt;The three
dominant models &amp;mdash; the tragedy of the commons, the prisoners&amp;#39;s dilemma,
and the logic of collective action &amp;mdash; are all inadequate,&lt;/b&gt; she says, for
they are based on the free-rider problem where individual, rational,
resource users act against the best interest of the users collectively.
These models are not necessarily wrong, Ostrom states, rather t&lt;b&gt;he
conditions under which they hold are very particular. They apply only
when the many, independently acting individuals involved have high
discount rates and little mutual trust, no capacity to communicate or
to enter into binding agreements, and when they do not arrange for
monitoring and enforcing mechanisms to avoid overinvestment and overuse.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:60px;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Ostrom
concludes that &lt;b&gt;&amp;quot;if this study does nothing more than shatter the
convictions of many policy analysts that the only way to solve common
pool resource problems is for external authorities to impose full
private property rights or centralized regulation, it will have
accomplished one major purpose.&amp;quot;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;A
profile of Ostrom, who is a member of the National Academies of Science
and and Editor of its Proceedings, is here:
&lt;a href="http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=1748208"&gt;http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=1748208&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;Her work can be found here: &lt;a href="http://scholar.google.co.jp/scholar?q=Ostrom,+Elinor&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;btnG=Search"&gt;http://scholar.google.co.jp/scholar?q=Ostrom,+Elinor&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;btnG=Search&lt;/a&gt; and&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;here: &lt;a href="http://de.scientificcommons.org/elinor_ostrom"&gt;http://de.scientificcommons.org/elinor_ostrom&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;One
thing worth noting is that the historical and ongoing records are &lt;b&gt;rife
with examples - such as our crashing local fisheries - where government
intervention has done more harm than good.&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp; In these cases and in
others, Ostrom introduces an analytical approach that is acceptable
widely across the political spectrum, even if differences in opinion
will remain.&amp;nbsp; See, for example, this discussion at libertarian-leaning
George Mason U:&amp;nbsp; &lt;a href="http://www.theihs.org/bunnygame/"&gt;http://www.theihs.org/bunnygame/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;div id="refHTML"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://mises.org/Community/aggbug.aspx?PostID=261283" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/archive/tags/tragedy+of+commons/default.aspx">tragedy of commons</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/archive/tags/ostrom/default.aspx">ostrom</category></item><item><title>Not Climate Change Welfare, But Capitalism and Free Markets</title><link>http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/archive/2008/01/22/poor-countries-need-capitalism-not-climate-change-welfare.aspx</link><pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 21:26:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">944abf2b-d1be-4bf2-990d-438cb0e377e9:13167</guid><dc:creator>TokyoTom</dc:creator><slash:comments>1</slash:comments><wfw:commentRss xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/">http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/rsscomments.aspx?PostID=13167</wfw:commentRss><wfw:comment xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/">http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/commentapi.aspx?PostID=13167</wfw:comment><comments>http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/archive/2008/01/22/poor-countries-need-capitalism-not-climate-change-welfare.aspx#comments</comments><description>... is what poor countries need. So corrrectly argues Keith Lockitch of the Ayn Rand Institute , in a new article that responds to the agreement, by the delegates of industrialized nations at the December climate change conference in Bali, to activate...(&lt;a href="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/archive/2008/01/22/poor-countries-need-capitalism-not-climate-change-welfare.aspx"&gt;read more&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;img src="http://mises.org/Community/aggbug.aspx?PostID=13167" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/archive/tags/climate/default.aspx">climate</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/archive/tags/development/default.aspx">development</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/archive/tags/state/default.aspx">state</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/archive/tags/ostrom/default.aspx">ostrom</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/archive/tags/lockitch/default.aspx">lockitch</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/archive/tags/lomborg/default.aspx">lomborg</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/archive/tags/goklany/default.aspx">goklany</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/archive/tags/adler/default.aspx">adler</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/archive/tags/Enviro+Derangement+Syndrome/default.aspx">Enviro Derangement Syndrome</category></item><item><title>Sophomoric optimism?</title><link>http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/archive/2007/10/16/sophmoric-optimism.aspx</link><pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 14:39:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">944abf2b-d1be-4bf2-990d-438cb0e377e9:1595</guid><dc:creator>TokyoTom</dc:creator><slash:comments>6</slash:comments><wfw:commentRss xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/">http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/rsscomments.aspx?PostID=1595</wfw:commentRss><wfw:comment xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/">http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/commentapi.aspx?PostID=1595</wfw:comment><comments>http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/archive/2007/10/16/sophmoric-optimism.aspx#comments</comments><description>&lt;p&gt;Jon Bostwick&amp;nbsp;agrees on another post that &amp;quot;Man is clever but not wise (&amp;quot;homo sapiens&amp;quot; is a misnomer)&amp;quot;, but further comments (emphasis added):&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;quot;True. But humanity is wise. Men create cultures, economies and law.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;quot;Man&amp;#39;s flaw is that he is over confident of his own intelligence. He tries to control things he doesn&amp;#39;t understand, like culture, economies, and law.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;quot;&lt;b&gt;You have just made an excellent case for why government involvement will not improve the environment. Because governments, like man, are not wise&lt;/b&gt;.&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://mises.org/blogs/tokyotom/archive/2007/10/12/libertarian-reticience-other-than-to-bash-enviros.aspx"&gt;http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/archive/2007/10/12/libertarian-reticience-other-than-to-bash-enviros.aspx&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This is too simple, as well as self-contradictory.&amp;nbsp;Humanity is wise because he collectively (but non-deliberately?) creates &amp;quot;cultures, economies and law&amp;quot; (let&amp;#39;s not forget governments), but individuals are foolish when they seek to use institutions to achieve particular purposes? &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Our states are merely one subset of the wide&amp;nbsp;universe of formal and informal institutions through which we cooperate with one another.&amp;nbsp; States are not a market, to be sure, but then neither are corporations, and there is a spectrum of ownership types&amp;nbsp;between the two.&amp;nbsp; We can study all of these institutions and use that knowledge to direct how we make use of them.&amp;nbsp; Such study has informed, for example, the deliberate shifts in policy that have led to the ongoing (yet incomplete) privatization&amp;nbsp;of the former USSR and of China.&amp;nbsp; &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;A study of institutions governing common pool resources by guru &lt;b&gt;Elinor Ostrom&lt;/b&gt; makes the following point:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;quot;&lt;span&gt;Whether people are able to self-organize and manage CPRs also depends on the broader social setting within which they work. &lt;b&gt;National governments can help or hinder local self-organization.&lt;/b&gt; &lt;b style="mso-bidi-font-weight:normal;"&gt;&amp;quot;Higher&amp;quot; levels of government can facilitate the assembly of users of a CPR in organizational meetings, provide information that helps identify the problem and possible solutions, and legitimize and help enforce agreements reached by local users. National governments can at times, however, hinder local self-organization by defending rights that lead to overuse or maintaining that the state has ultimate control over resources without actually monitoring and enforcing existing regulations. &lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;b&gt;&amp;quot;Participants are more likely to adopt effective rules in macro-regimes that facilitate their efforts than in regimes that ignore resource problems entirely or that presume that central authorities must make all decisions.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;b style="mso-bidi-font-weight:normal;"&gt;If local authority is not formally recognized by larger regimes, it is difficult for users to establish enforceable rules.&lt;/b&gt; &amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Elinor Ostrom et al., Revisiting the Commons: Local Lessons, Global Challenges, Science, 04/09/99 &lt;a href="http://conservationcommons.org/media/document/docu-wyycyz.pdf"&gt;http://conservationcommons.org/media/document/docu-wyycyz.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Was &lt;b&gt;von Mises&lt;/b&gt; foolish to suggest we can use the state to reform our institutions?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;ldquo;It is true that where a considerable part of the costs incurred are external costs from the point of view of the acting individuals or firms, the economic calculation established by them is manifestly defective and their results deceptive. But this is not the outcome of alleged deficiencies inherent in the system of private ownership of the means of production.&lt;b&gt; It is on the contrary a consequence of loopholes left in this system. It could be removed by a reform of the laws concerning liability for damages inflicted and by rescinding the institutional barriers preventing the full operation of private ownership.&lt;/b&gt;&amp;rdquo;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://mises.org/humanaction/chap23sec6.asp"&gt;http://mises.org/humanaction/chap23sec6.asp&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And &lt;b&gt;Cordato&lt;/b&gt;, for suggesting that Austrians take particular &lt;span style="text-decoration:underline;"&gt;policy&lt;/span&gt; approaches to environmental issues?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;b&gt;&amp;quot;For Austrians then, public policy in the area of the environment must focus on resolving these conflicts over the use of resources that define pollution, not on obtaining an ultimately unobtainable &amp;quot;efficient&amp;quot; allocation of resources. ... &lt;/b&gt;For Austrians, whose goal is to resolve conflicts, the focus is on clarifying titles to property and rights enforcement.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://mises.org/story/1760"&gt;http://mises.org/story/1760&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Sorry, but I cannot believe that we are&amp;nbsp;condemned always&amp;nbsp;to repeat all mistakes, despite our rather constant human nature.&amp;nbsp; Rather, as &lt;b&gt;Yandle&lt;/b&gt; notes, our very history as a species is about our success in evolving, devising and adopting ways to manage shared problems.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;a href="http://www.fee.org/publications/the-freeman/article.asp?aid=4064"&gt;http://www.fee.org/publications/the-freeman/article.asp?aid=4064&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This is a message of profound optimism, not cynicism --- said the fool.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://mises.org/Community/aggbug.aspx?PostID=1595" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/archive/tags/environment/default.aspx">environment</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/archive/tags/mises/default.aspx">mises</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/archive/tags/state/default.aspx">state</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/archive/tags/property/default.aspx">property</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/archive/tags/ostrom/default.aspx">ostrom</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/archive/tags/cordato/default.aspx">cordato</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/archive/tags/commons/default.aspx">commons</category></item><item><title>Ron Bailey of Reason congratulates Al Gore</title><link>http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/archive/2007/10/15/reason-congratulations-to-al-gore.aspx</link><pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 12:33:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">944abf2b-d1be-4bf2-990d-438cb0e377e9:1656</guid><dc:creator>TokyoTom</dc:creator><slash:comments>4</slash:comments><wfw:commentRss xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/">http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/rsscomments.aspx?PostID=1656</wfw:commentRss><wfw:comment xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/">http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/commentapi.aspx?PostID=1656</wfw:comment><comments>http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/archive/2007/10/15/reason-congratulations-to-al-gore.aspx#comments</comments><description>&lt;p&gt;[updated] A great new post by libertarian Ron Bailey of Reason here:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Congratulations to Al Gore&lt;br /&gt;But be wary of the man&amp;#39;s proposed solutions for global warming.&lt;br /&gt;Ronald Bailey | October 12, 2007&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.reason.com/news/show/122960.html"&gt;http://www.reason.com/news/show/122960.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;1.&amp;nbsp; Here are some excerpts (emphasis added), followed by a copy of my comments over at Reason:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[Gore is] wrong to characterize global warming as a moral and spiritual problem. Man-made global warming is not some kind of environmental sin. &lt;b&gt;It&amp;#39;s just another commons problem that has emerged as human civilization continues to develop.&lt;/b&gt; &lt;b&gt;Most environmental problems arise in what are called open-access commons.&lt;/b&gt; That is, people pollute air and rivers, overfish lakes and oceans, cut down rainforests, and so forth because &lt;b&gt;no one owns those natural resources and therefore no one has an interest in protecting them. &lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The point is clearest in the case of tropical forests and fisheries. No one owns the forests or fisheries, so anyone may exploit them. No one has an incentive to leave any trees or fish behind because, if they do, someone else will harvest them and get the benefits for themselves. In other words, those who immediately benefit from exploiting the resource do not bear the long-run costs of its ultimate destruction. &lt;b&gt;This mismatch between benefits and costs is a recipe for disaster. Similarly, no one owns the global atmosphere, so there is no incentive for anyone to protect it from various pollutants, including greenhouse gases that tend to raise average global temperatures.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Generally, humanity has solved environmental problems caused by open-access situations by either privatizing the relevant commons or regulating it.&amp;nbsp; ... &lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As a skeptic of government action, I had hoped that the scientific evidence would lead to the conclusion that global warming would not be &lt;a href="http://www.reason.com/blog/show/113924.html"&gt;much of a problem&lt;/a&gt;, so that humanity could avoid the messy and highly politicized process of deciding what to do about it. Although people of good will can still disagree about the scientific evidence for climate change, I now believe that &lt;b&gt;Gore has got it basically right. The balance of the evidence shows that global warming could well be a significant problem over the course of this century.&lt;/b&gt; ...&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Yale economist William Nordhaus&amp;nbsp;... calculates that the optimal policy would impose a carbon tax&lt;/b&gt; of $34 per metric ton carbon in 2010, with the tax increases gradually reaching $42 per ton in 2015, $90 per ton in 2050, and $207 per ton of carbon in 2100. A $20 per metric ton carbon tax will raise coal prices by $10 per ton, which is about a 40 percent increase over the current price of $25 per ton. A $10 per ton carbon tax translates into a 4 cent per gallon increase in gasoline. A $300 per ton carbon tax would raise gasoline prices by $1.20 per gallon. &lt;b&gt;Following this optimal trajectory would cost $2.2 trillion and reduce climate change damage by $5.2 trillion over the next century&lt;/b&gt;.&amp;nbsp;...&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Man-made global warming is an economic and technical problem of the sort that humanity has solved many times. &lt;/b&gt;For example, forests are expanding in rich countries because they have well-developed private property rights. Also in rich countries, regulations have helped once polluted rivers and lakes to become clean and have drastically cut air pollution. One of the keys to solving environmental problems is economic growth and wealth.&amp;nbsp;...&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In any case, &lt;b&gt;global warming is not the result of environmental sin; it is the result of human progress creating another commons problem. ... I have no doubt that man-made global warming is an economic and technical problem that an inventive humanity will solve over the course of the 21st century.&lt;/b&gt; &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Still, congratulations are in order to Al Gore for being recognized by the Nobel committee for his persistence in trying to get humanity to pay attention to this new commons problem.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;2.&amp;nbsp; Here is a digest of my comments to Ron:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;Basically, a great post, but I&amp;#39;ve got a few small quibbles.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;1.&amp;nbsp; You were right last year when you said that &amp;quot;In the end, the debate over global warming and its obverse, humanity&amp;#39;s energy future, &lt;b&gt;is a moral issue&lt;/b&gt;.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.reason.com/blog/show/113924.html"&gt;http://www.reason.com/blog/show/113924.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;2.&amp;nbsp; I share your understanding of the economics and institutional problem and agree that a straightforward explanation of these is important for very many.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;3.&amp;nbsp; However, you forget what evolutionary psychology, Ostrom and Yandle have explained to us so well about how our innate moral sense drives and underpins mankind&amp;#39;s success as a species by enhancing our ability to&amp;nbsp;cooperate and to overcome commons issues.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Ostrom&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;a href="http://conservationcommons.org/media/document/docu-wyycyz.pdf"&gt;http://conservationcommons.org/media/document/docu-wyycyz.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Yandle&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;a href="http://www.fee.org/publications/the-freeman/article.asp?aid=4064"&gt;http://www.fee.org/publications/the-freeman/article.asp?aid=4064&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;Our long history of developed rules and institutions (informal and formal now overlapping) are based on our moral sense and the effectiveness of these rules depends critically on our moral investment in accepting their legitimacy - witness our views on murder, theft, lying and &amp;quot;not playing by the rules&amp;quot; - and in voluntarily complying with them.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;Our moral sense reinforces our judgments about when rules/institutions are not working and the need to develop new ones in response to changing circumstances and new problems.&amp;nbsp; When we see a problem that we think requires change, it is unavoidable that we respond to the status quo, the behavior of people within it and the need for change with a moral sense.&amp;nbsp; &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;This is simply a part of our evolutionary endowment.&amp;nbsp; (Of course, other parts of our endowment accentuate our suspicions of smooth talkers and help us catch free riders and looters and to guard against threats from outsiders.)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;4.&amp;nbsp; Accordingly, while it&amp;#39;s unclear how deliberate Gore&amp;#39;s&amp;nbsp;talk of &amp;quot;a moral and spiritual challenge&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;lifting the global consciousness&amp;quot; is or whether this is a productive&amp;nbsp;approach for some people, I think it is fairly clear that, in order to build consensus for a solution to the climate commons problem (and other difficult commons problems) and to ensure that any agreed solutions are actually implemented, we will need to bring our moral senses to bear.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;In other words, it is RIGHT to worry about climate change, but no meaningful/effective &amp;quot;solution&amp;quot; can be reached or implemented unless it is FAIR and the parties involved have sufficient TRUST (backed by information) in each other.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;5.&amp;nbsp; You have understated the AGW problem, especially in light of the inertia both in our energy systems and in the climate, the long duration of CO2 and other GHGS, and the rapidity with which the climate is already changing - faster than even this year&amp;#39;s IPCC reports: &lt;a href="http://www.carbonequity.info/docs/arctic.html"&gt;http://www.carbonequity.info/docs/arctic.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;6.&amp;nbsp; It is surprising that in referring to Nordhaus you have not indicated the ways in which it seems clear that Nordhaus has understated the costs and risks of climate change and the utility of acting sooner rather than later, as noted by &lt;b&gt;Weitzman&lt;/b&gt;, &lt;b&gt;Sterner &amp;amp; Persson&lt;/b&gt;, &lt;b&gt;Quiggin&lt;/b&gt; and others, or that by &amp;ldquo;revenue recycling&amp;quot; as noted by McKitrick we can substantially reduce the costs of carbon abatement policies.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.economics.harvard.edu/faculty/Weitzman/papers/JELSternReport.pdf"&gt;http://www.economics.harvard.edu/faculty/Weitzman/papers/JELSternReport.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.rff.org/Documents/RFF-DP-07-37.pdf"&gt;www.rff.org/Documents/RFF-DP-07-37.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://johnquiggin.com/index.php/archives/2006/11/17/stern-on-the-costs-of-climate-change-part-1/"&gt;http://johnquiggin.com/index.php/archives/2006/11/17/stern-on-the-costs-of-climate-change-part-1/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.uoguelph.ca/~rmckitri/research/co2briefing.pdf"&gt;http://www.uoguelph.ca/~rmckitri/research/co2briefing.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;7.&amp;nbsp; You fail to note that while there are real costs to our economies to build climate change institutions, once established in principle any resulting carbon pricing reflects real costs and is not a &amp;ldquo;cost&amp;rdquo; to the economy.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;8.&amp;nbsp; It is a puzzle that you did not note that the most powerful way to call forth the investment and behavior changes that would help us to &amp;ldquo;find a cheap, low-carbon source of energy&amp;rdquo; and to limit GHG emissions would be to find ways that would effectively price GHG emissions.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;9.&amp;nbsp; Finally, one further comment on this:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;&amp;quot;One of the keys to solving environmental problems is economic growth and wealth.&amp;nbsp; ... So keep in mind that anything that unduly retards economic growth also retards ultimate environmental clean-up, including global warming.&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;Not sure what you&amp;#39;re driving at here.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;As far as developing countries go, efforts by Western nations to address climate change are actually net subsidies to them (by dampening Western demand for fossil fuels) and are providing incentives and investment for growth.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;And as for Western economies, at least in principle internalizing externalities by enclosing commons (that have provided value which has not been factored into GDP) doesn&amp;#39;t retard economic growth, but enables it by forestalling the destruction of resources, permitting greater wealth-generating private transactions and reducing inefficiency.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://mises.org/Community/aggbug.aspx?PostID=1656" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/archive/tags/climate/default.aspx">climate</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/archive/tags/tragedy+of+commons/default.aspx">tragedy of commons</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/archive/tags/environment/default.aspx">environment</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/archive/tags/property/default.aspx">property</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/archive/tags/ostrom/default.aspx">ostrom</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/archive/tags/gore/default.aspx">gore</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/archive/tags/yandle/default.aspx">yandle</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/archive/tags/Ron+Bailey/default.aspx">Ron Bailey</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/archive/tags/fisheries/default.aspx">fisheries</category></item><item><title>Using the State to solve common resource problems?</title><link>http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/archive/2007/10/12/building-property-rights-for-common-resources.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 12:20:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">944abf2b-d1be-4bf2-990d-438cb0e377e9:1383</guid><dc:creator>TokyoTom</dc:creator><slash:comments>4</slash:comments><wfw:commentRss xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/">http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/rsscomments.aspx?PostID=1383</wfw:commentRss><wfw:comment xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/">http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/commentapi.aspx?PostID=1383</wfw:comment><comments>http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/archive/2007/10/12/building-property-rights-for-common-resources.aspx#comments</comments><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;How exactly do you transfer commons into private ownership in a fair way, even for easily divided up stuff like land?&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That&amp;#39;s the trillion dollar question that someone asked me&amp;nbsp;on a recent thread (&lt;a href="http://blog.mises.org/archives/007152.asp#comments"&gt;http://blog.mises.org/archives/007152.asp#comments&lt;/a&gt;) regarding my suggestion that better definition and enforcement of property rights is key to addressing climate change and other environmental problems in the developing world.&amp;nbsp; I have excerpted and augmented my response here:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Libertarians do not insist that open-access resources (or common property resources/CPR) be divided up by creating individual property rights; cooperative ownership&amp;nbsp; via formal agreements or informally developed practices and customs (such those developed by Maine lobstermen,&amp;nbsp;English angling clubs, indigenous peoples and Wikipedia and online communities) may work better at solving the prisoners&amp;#39; dilemma issues and are just as acceptable. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But technological advances and greater demand often swamp CPR regimes, so such regimes remain vulnerable if they are not accorded legal protection. My understanding of the UK enclosures in this regard is that they were actually a legislative theft of common property by the powerful. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Can states play positive roles in solving problems? At least internally, it is rather clear that the answer is that the state works best by allowing, and providing judicial mechanisms to enforce, private transactions, and works least well when it tries to specify detailed and rigid &amp;quot;solutions&amp;quot; itself - since the government itself never has perfect information, often plays favorites and once a regulatory regime is put in place, parties have no ability to work out their differences directly with each other, but are forever in the position of trying to influence the state and in adversarial positions vis-a-vis each other.&amp;nbsp; But states can also play a positive role by disseminating information and by acting to facilitate deals between various resources users, particularly in&amp;nbsp;cross-border/multi-state problems.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Elinor Ostrom&lt;/b&gt; is the guru of CPR regimes; anyone interested should&amp;nbsp;look into her fascinating and highly-regarded work, particularly her seminal &lt;b&gt;Governing the Commons&lt;/b&gt; (1990). &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[She is a member of the American Academy of Arts and Sciences, the National Academy of Sciences, and the American Philosophical Society, and a recipient of a number of prestigious awards. Her other books include&amp;nbsp;&lt;span style="text-decoration:underline;"&gt;Rules, Games, and&amp;nbsp;Common-Pool Resources&lt;/span&gt; (1994); &lt;span style="text-decoration:underline;"&gt;The Commons in the New Millennium: Challenges and Adaptations&lt;/span&gt; (2003); &lt;span style="text-decoration:underline;"&gt;The Samaritan&amp;rsquo;s Dilemma: The Political Economy of Development Aid &lt;/span&gt;(2005); &lt;span style="text-decoration:underline;"&gt;Understanding Institutional Diversity&lt;/span&gt; (2005); and &lt;span style="text-decoration:underline;"&gt;Understanding Knowledge as a Commons: From Theory to Practice&lt;/span&gt; (2007).]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Here is one link to get readers started:&amp;nbsp; Elinor Ostrom et al., Revisiting the Commons: Local Lessons, Global Challenges, Science 9 April 1999: &lt;a href="http://conservationcommons.org/media/document/docu-wyycyz.pdf"&gt;http://conservationcommons.org/media/document/docu-wyycyz.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Technology seems to provide us ability to create property rights regimes in ocean fisheries. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/archive/2007/09/27/too-many-or-too-few-people-does-the-market-provide-an-answer.aspx"&gt;The stickiest problems are those where the resource is located in a country where we cannot ourselves create or enforce legal rights and in the atmosphere, which no one owns and to which all have access.&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp; Unfortunately, many libertarians don&amp;#39;t even want to acknowledge, much less discuss, these problems. Since they are&amp;nbsp;not&amp;nbsp;confined to any one country, clearly we need to coordinate with others - for which purposes&amp;nbsp;our state apparatus cannot be avoided.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Reaching any kind of effective solution for problems of this type will require much more focussed attention and bridge-building (abroad and at home), and if libertarians do not want to be part of the discussion, clearly they will have little influence on the results.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[Previously posted&amp;nbsp;(with some tweaks) on a recent thread (&lt;a href="http://blog.mises.org/archives/007152.asp#comments"&gt;http://blog.mises.org/archives/007152.asp#comments&lt;/a&gt;) in response to someone who is concerned about environmental problems but is unfamiliar with Austrian approaches.]&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://mises.org/Community/aggbug.aspx?PostID=1383" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/archive/tags/climate/default.aspx">climate</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/archive/tags/tragedy+of+commons/default.aspx">tragedy of commons</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/archive/tags/environment/default.aspx">environment</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/archive/tags/development/default.aspx">development</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/archive/tags/state/default.aspx">state</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/archive/tags/ostrom/default.aspx">ostrom</category></item><item><title>Too Many or Too Few People?  Does the market provide an answer?</title><link>http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/archive/2007/09/28/too-many-or-too-few-people-does-the-market-provide-an-answer.aspx</link><pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 14:49:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">944abf2b-d1be-4bf2-990d-438cb0e377e9:530</guid><dc:creator>TokyoTom</dc:creator><slash:comments>11</slash:comments><wfw:commentRss xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/">http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/rsscomments.aspx?PostID=530</wfw:commentRss><wfw:comment xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/">http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/commentapi.aspx?PostID=530</wfw:comment><comments>http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/archive/2007/09/28/too-many-or-too-few-people-does-the-market-provide-an-answer.aspx#comments</comments><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Dan McLaughlin&lt;/b&gt; asks the first of these interesting questions on the Mises blog,&amp;nbsp; &lt;a href="http://mises.org/story/2718"&gt;http://mises.org/story/2718&lt;/a&gt;.&amp;nbsp; The second question is mine, and I addressed it briefly&amp;nbsp;in the blog responses to Dan.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I take the liberty of posting that response here (revised slightly and with&amp;nbsp;a few further comments):&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;Too many or too few? Good question, Dan. I agree with you that the population question is like any other aspect of the social order: best addressed by the market and by free societies.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;There are just a few small problems - even within the developed world (and very clearly outside of it), there are many important resources that are &lt;b&gt;unowned&lt;/b&gt; and thus not fully priced in the &amp;quot;market&amp;quot; economy. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Unowned resources include almost all of Nature.&amp;nbsp; Primary productivity (the amount of vegetation produced from photosynthesis) has changed little, so as we&amp;nbsp;use technology and our organizational abilities to divert more and more of it to feed us, this is&amp;nbsp;an inevitable cost to other species, either directly or in the form of altered environments that support less life (and less diversity of life).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In altering our environments to suit us, we are of course no different from other life forms that compete for resources to live and propagate, but with our technical and organizational abilities, mankind has&amp;nbsp;clearly triumphed over the rest of nature (except perhaps evolving microbes, to whom we represent an increasingly large and relatively untapped food source). But at what cost? &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Through the centuries we have wiped out many wild systems of food and other resources - because they were never owned, and because our improving technology enabled us to race each other to take the resources before others (or from others, in the case of many native peoples). Not only &lt;b&gt;Jared Diamond`s&lt;/b&gt; &amp;quot;guns, germs and steel&amp;quot;, but also forms of social organization have played deciding roles in the competition between human societies for survival, growth and dominance.&amp;nbsp; In this regard, societies that recognize and protect property rights and utilize free markets have proven clearly superior in the competition with&amp;nbsp;other societies to obtain and utilize available resources.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But our struggle has been not only to capture resources and to use them before others do, but also to manage and protect them effectively.&amp;nbsp; Evolving ownership systems have been a key means of limiting wasteful &amp;quot;tragedy of the commons&amp;quot; struggles (see &lt;a href="http://www.thefreemanonline.org/featured/the-commons-tragedy-or-triumph/"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Yandle&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;; &lt;a href="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/archive/2007/10/11/draft.aspx"&gt;&lt;b&gt;von Mises&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;), but even&amp;nbsp;where ownership systems have been implemented, we have generally replaced complex natural systems with simpler systems designed solely to feed us (and particularly so where, due to higher consumptive demand, we have replaced common property systems with private property systems (&lt;a href="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/archive/2007/10/12/building-property-rights-for-common-resources.aspx"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Ostrom&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;)).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Meanwhile, virtually all of the natural world - the world&amp;#39;s oceans, atmosphere, tropical reefs, tropical forests and other great commons - remain unowned and thus unmanaged and unregulated (or indigenous occupants have been forced aside).&amp;nbsp; For example, the great cod fishery off of the Grand Banks that fed Europe for centuries has now disappeared, and other fishery stocks worldwide are crashing - to be &amp;quot;replaced&amp;quot; by &amp;quot;farmed&amp;quot; fish that are fed to a substantial degree by catching and grinding up fish stocks that humans prefer not to consume directly, and in part by fish firms that are established by destroying the mangroves that are estuaries to various fisheries.&amp;nbsp; The same is true of the replacement of vast tracts of tropical forests with soybeans or oil palm plantations, with the rapid increase in atmospheric CO2 (and attendant risks to climate) and with the correspondly geolologically rapid increases in ocean acidification (and threats to plankton, corals and shellfish).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;While populations in the developed economies are now relatively stable, demand from our markets (as well as the burgeoning developing markets) continues to strip out unowned (or mismanaged &amp;quot;public&amp;quot;) resources from the oceans or undeveloped countries, aided by kleptocratic elites who are happy to steal from the peoples they supposedly represent in order to line their own pockets.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As Dan points out,&amp;nbsp;property rights failures in poorer nations contributes to population growth there by delaying the demographic transitions that we have experienced.&amp;nbsp; Developed economies face similar problems with respect to &amp;quot;public&amp;quot;, state-owned&amp;nbsp;lands, for which rent-seeking by and sweet deals to insiders are enduring problems and sources of politcal conflict (as markets cannot work to allocate resources).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Dan states that the stunningly rapid growth of human populations from the Renaissance to the present (6+ billion now expected to nearly double again soon)&amp;nbsp;&amp;quot;actually represents the rise of capitalism and capital development ... [and]&amp;nbsp; shows ... the stunning capacity of freedom to provide for the whole world.&amp;quot;&amp;nbsp; While partly correct, this misses completely the question of our massive impact, within a very short period of geological time, on the environment in which we evolved over millions of years, the fact this has occurred because&amp;nbsp;clear and enforceable property rights have not been created in many of the resources that have been consumed, and the corollary fact that we&amp;nbsp;continue to lack the ability to manage our impact on our endowment of natural resources.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The market clearly does&amp;nbsp;NOT send accurate pricing signals with respect to goods that are unowned or ineffectively owned; these goods are either unpriced or underpriced, so the effect is overconsumption until the point that the resource is greatly degraded, at which point attention is turned to the next unowned resource. Thus, human populations are responding to rather imperfect market signals.&amp;nbsp; And where resources are unowned, individuals and groups with differing values and desires cannot adjust or realize those desires by means of private, market transactions.&amp;nbsp; As a result, we are seeing&amp;nbsp;a&amp;nbsp;recourse to the public and political arenas -&amp;nbsp;and the inevitable discordant debates - as various parties seek to use either moral suasion or the levers of government (locally, nationally and internationally) to advance what they consider to be their own interests.&amp;nbsp; (Of course, in a &amp;quot;tragedy of the commons&amp;quot; situation, all resource users share an interest is the future availability of a resource; the difficulty is in the prisoners&amp;#39; dilemma negotiations at the primary user level about how to allocate short-term pain in the interest of long-term gains, compounded in the case of multinational resources by rent-seeking with each national participant.)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;A cynic may say that our ongoing assault on nature&amp;nbsp;is only &amp;quot;natural&amp;quot;,&amp;nbsp;presents no moral or philosophical issues and&amp;nbsp;that we hardly owe any responsibilities to &amp;quot;nature&amp;quot; or even &amp;quot;future generations&amp;quot; -&amp;nbsp; so let&amp;#39;s just all keep on partying, consuming for today, and patting ourselves on the back at how marvelous our market systems are.&amp;nbsp; And that we should keep on hurling invective at those evil &amp;quot;enviros&amp;quot; who want to crash the party and drag us all back to the Stone Age.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Perhaps I suffer from a want of sufficient cynicism.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="padding-left:30px;"&gt;TT&lt;/p&gt;
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