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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="http://mises.org/Community/utility/FeedStylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Ronorama</title><link>http://mises.org/Community/blogs/ronorama/default.aspx</link><description>I believe it&amp;#39;s a grave error to think that government can behave in any other way than it currently does.</description><dc:language>en</dc:language><generator>CommunityServer 2008.5 SP2 (Build: 40407.4157)</generator><item><title>Who's responsible for your property?</title><link>http://mises.org/Community/blogs/ronorama/archive/2009/06/23/who-s-responsible-for-your-property.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 18:39:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">944abf2b-d1be-4bf2-990d-438cb0e377e9:225726</guid><dc:creator>Ronorama</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><wfw:commentRss xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/">http://mises.org/Community/blogs/ronorama/rsscomments.aspx?PostID=225726</wfw:commentRss><comments>http://mises.org/Community/blogs/ronorama/archive/2009/06/23/who-s-responsible-for-your-property.aspx#comments</comments><description>&lt;p&gt;My wife and I own a piece of property in a community in another state. We bought it with plans to one day build a house on it and live there probably for the rest of our lives, but our situation at present makes that a poor choice, so we&amp;#39;re waiting. The community has an HOA, and even though we&amp;#39;re not yet &amp;quot;residents&amp;quot; I&amp;#39;ve been keeping up on the antics of the HOA and my future neighbors to get a feel for 1) how the HOA behaves, and 2) what kind of people I&amp;#39;ll be living next to if we decide at some point to go through with our plan. To that end, I signed up for the community group on Yahoo, and I receive emails from time to time from the HOA and other members of the community. Needless to say, the issues confronting the residents, along with the HOA&amp;#39;s responses thereto, provide endless hours of entertainment, even while some of them are truly cause for concern.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The latest episode in the neighborhood is that some residents are having plants and planters stolen from outside there homes. Everything from small potted plants to heavy concrete planters are being taken in the wee hours of the night from walkways, porches, and patios all over the community. It&amp;#39;s been ongoing for several weeks now, and the items stolen are always those that are attractive and in good condition, so it&amp;#39;s unlikely that it&amp;#39;s a prank being perpetrated by local teenagers. Rather, it&amp;#39;s been presumed that contractors, landscapers, or some other group is stealing the items and selling them to local contractors. Understandably, this situation has prompted a variety of responses from the residents affected, as well as those who could be affected.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The encouraging thing is that most residents are simply asking others to be more vigilant around the neighborhood, and some have even offered to take turns patrolling the community at night to prevent further thefts and possibly catch someone in the act. Others have suggested spending HOA dues to hire a private security force to serve the same purpose, which has met with mixed responses (some residents display an irrational bias against private security, saying they believe &amp;quot;rent-a-cops&amp;quot; were more likely to be found sleeping that patrolling, and suggesting instead that they attempt to hire off-duty &amp;quot;commissioned officers&amp;quot; as if that&amp;#39;s supposed to ensure better service...but I digress).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What&amp;#39;s not so encouraging, though, is that anyone who&amp;#39;s dared to suggest that people be more careful about securing their &lt;i&gt;own&lt;/i&gt; &lt;i&gt;planters or otherwise safeguarding their own property&lt;/i&gt; has been lambasted as &amp;quot;selfish&amp;quot; and lacking &amp;quot;all form of social conscience.&amp;quot;&amp;nbsp; The outrage is levied particularly heavily against those who express a desire to NOT have HOA dues spent on additional security for the community as a whole. It&amp;#39;s one thing to presume that we all have a responsibility to watch out for each other, and on a social level I sort of agree. It&amp;#39;s good for us to look out for one another, but it&amp;#39;s immoral to &lt;i&gt;force &lt;/i&gt;people to look out for each other. It&amp;#39;s quite another thing, however, to presume that we are selfish for wanting to protect our own property first. I can&amp;#39;t quite wrap my head around the root of this viewpoint. I believe that many socialist views are rooted in envy, but what&amp;#39;s the root of this particular viewpoint? I&amp;#39;ll have to think about it some more. In the meantime, any feedback others may want to provide would be welcomed.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://mises.org/Community/aggbug.aspx?PostID=225726" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/ronorama/archive/tags/security/default.aspx">security</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/ronorama/archive/tags/HOA/default.aspx">HOA</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/ronorama/archive/tags/theft/default.aspx">theft</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/ronorama/archive/tags/private+property/default.aspx">private property</category></item><item><title>Isn't MORE Recycling the Whole Point?</title><link>http://mises.org/Community/blogs/ronorama/archive/2008/07/10/isn-t-more-recycling-the-whole-point.aspx</link><pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 14:16:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">944abf2b-d1be-4bf2-990d-438cb0e377e9:40996</guid><dc:creator>Ronorama</dc:creator><slash:comments>6</slash:comments><wfw:commentRss xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/">http://mises.org/Community/blogs/ronorama/rsscomments.aspx?PostID=40996</wfw:commentRss><comments>http://mises.org/Community/blogs/ronorama/archive/2008/07/10/isn-t-more-recycling-the-whole-point.aspx#comments</comments><description>&lt;p&gt;Yes, ladies and gentlemen, it&amp;#39;s a crime to recycle in some major U.S.
cities. Or it soon will be. With the market prices for recycled goods
actually reaching a level that makes recycling profitable, &lt;a href="http://www.comcast.net/articles/news-finance/20080707/Stealing.Recyclables/"&gt;bands of entrepreneurs have rushed onto the scene&lt;/a&gt;
to make a buck by &amp;quot;stealing&amp;quot; recyclable materials from trash cans. A
few major cities are cracking down on these trash thieves, in a bid to
ensure that recycling remains a government monopoly.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight:bold;"&gt;&amp;quot;&lt;/span&gt;California
lawmakers are also considering legislation that would make large-scale,
anonymous recycling more difficult by forcing scrap and paper recyclers
to require picture identification for anyone bringing in more than $50
worth of cans, bottles or newspapers and to pay such individuals with
checks rather than cash.&lt;span style="font-weight:bold;"&gt;&amp;quot;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So,
let me get this straight...state and city governments supposedly want
people to recycle, right? Most people believe that recycling is a good
thing, which is not untrue. The problem with recycling to date has been
that it wasn&amp;#39;t profitable, so the only way it could be sustained was if
it was subsidized by taxes. Now, suddenly it&amp;#39;s profitable to recycle,
so more people are doing it. You would think this is a good thing,
right?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Well, the government obviously doesn&amp;#39;t think so, and
neither do their monopoly contract holders. Why not? You might think
that a waste collection company could care less, and may even be
thrilled that private individuals are doing a portion of their work for
them. After all, refuse theft means less they have to pick up and less
they have to dump into a landfill. It would save space, time, and
money. So why would they condemn the practice and lobby for laws
prohibiting it? Because it threatens their monopoly on
recycling...plain and simple. If private recycling becomes a profitable
enterprise, the subsidized government bureaucracy loses its raison
d&amp;#39;etre, since its only reason to exist is to provide a service that
supposedly couldn&amp;#39;t or wouldn&amp;#39;t be provided by a free market.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now,
I certainly am not one to advocate theft, and you could make the
argument that refuse left by the curb to be picked up by a collection
company belongs to either the producer (the resident disposing of the
refuse) or the company. And, of course, stealing newspapers out of the
rack in order to recycle them would rightly be considered
theft...except that we&amp;#39;re talking about &amp;quot;free&amp;quot; newspapers.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight:bold;"&gt;&amp;quot;&lt;/span&gt;The &lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;free&lt;/span&gt;
weekly The East Bay Express, which covers Oakland, Berkeley and other
Bay Area cities, hired an ex-police detective to stake out thieves and
began retrofitting curbside newspaper racks to make them
theft-resistant because thousands of fresh copies go missing some weeks.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;quot;We
don&amp;#39;t want to be spending all our energy printing papers that people
take directly to the recyclers,&amp;quot; said Hal Brody, the paper&amp;#39;s president.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Mike Costello, vice president of circulation at the &lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;free&lt;/span&gt; San Francisco daily, The Examiner, has taken to doing stakeouts of his own.&lt;span style="font-weight:bold;"&gt;&amp;quot;&lt;/span&gt; (emphasis added)&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;These
newspapers are probably free because they&amp;#39;re paid for by advertisers,
so the argument could definitely be made that the recyclers are
stealing from the advertisers themselves. However, the fact that
they&amp;#39;re being stolen specifically for recycling would seem to indicate
that they&amp;#39;re more valuable as recycled material than as actual
newspapers, which should probably inspire the advertisers to rethink
that particular marketing choice.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But why should a homeowner care who takes possession of his or her trash once they place it next to the curb for pick-up?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight:bold;"&gt;&amp;quot;&lt;/span&gt;Every
Wednesday night, Bruce Johnson dutifully puts his garbage and recycling
on the curb for pickup, and every week he fumes as small trucks idle in
front of his home and strangers dig through his bins stealing trash
they aim to turn into treasure.&lt;span style="font-weight:bold;"&gt;&amp;quot;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In
most cases, residents don&amp;#39;t pay for their trash pick-up directly.
Rather, it&amp;#39;s paid for via taxes or homeowners&amp;#39; dues. The same is often
true of recycling (although in some rural areas homeowners must
actually pay to have recyclables picked up separately). One would think
that if someone was willing to pick up a portion of a homeowners&amp;#39;
garbage for free it would spur competition among waste collection
companies for contracts. This is, of course, precisely what the
government monopolists &lt;i&gt;don&amp;#39;t want&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So here we are, at a
point where one can actually turn an honest profit while &amp;quot;saving the
planet&amp;quot;, but rather than embracing the benefits that this newfound
profitably would bring in a free market, bureaucracy is fighting it
tooth and nail, as it threatens its very existence. Surely we all see
the irony herein. Government wants you to recycle, but only so long as
you use government to do it. All else is verboten. Honestly, were I a
homeowner who witnessed my garbage being ransacked for recyclables I
would probably feel more inclined to sort the recyclable items into a
separate container to speed up the process of undermining the
government monopoly on recycling, thereby doing my part to save the
planet by encouraging the free recycling market to flourish.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://mises.org/Community/aggbug.aspx?PostID=40996" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item><item><title>Inflation Around The World</title><link>http://mises.org/Community/blogs/ronorama/archive/2008/01/18/inflation-around-the-world.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 14:32:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">944abf2b-d1be-4bf2-990d-438cb0e377e9:11367</guid><dc:creator>Ronorama</dc:creator><slash:comments>2</slash:comments><wfw:commentRss xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/">http://mises.org/Community/blogs/ronorama/rsscomments.aspx?PostID=11367</wfw:commentRss><comments>http://mises.org/Community/blogs/ronorama/archive/2008/01/18/inflation-around-the-world.aspx#comments</comments><description>&lt;p&gt;Ah, &lt;a href="http://www.lileks.com/money/index.html"&gt;the power of the printing press!&lt;/a&gt; This site is chock full of hilarious comments on currencies around the world, with an obvious anti-inflationary bias. Definitely worth some surfin&amp;#39; when you have some time to kill.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://mises.org/Community/aggbug.aspx?PostID=11367" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item><item><title>"Legal" Immigration</title><link>http://mises.org/Community/blogs/ronorama/archive/2007/12/28/quot-legal-quot-immigration.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2007 16:52:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">944abf2b-d1be-4bf2-990d-438cb0e377e9:7821</guid><dc:creator>Ronorama</dc:creator><slash:comments>3</slash:comments><wfw:commentRss xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/">http://mises.org/Community/blogs/ronorama/rsscomments.aspx?PostID=7821</wfw:commentRss><comments>http://mises.org/Community/blogs/ronorama/archive/2007/12/28/quot-legal-quot-immigration.aspx#comments</comments><description>&lt;p&gt;This is the continuation, or expansion, of &lt;a href="http://mises.org/blogs/ronorama/archive/2007/11/06/stupid-arguments-re-immigration.aspx"&gt;this small item&lt;/a&gt;, that I posted earlier on this &amp;#39;blog. In that post, I asked what benefit is provided by the legal immigration process to those of us already living in the good old US of A. I&amp;#39;d like to examine the question a bit further to see what fallacies underly the belief that immigration must be a formal process.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;When you enter a doctor&amp;#39;s office, there is typically a diploma (or several) hanging on the office wall. If you take your car to a reputable auto repair shop you will often see a certificate from &lt;a href="http://www.asecert.org/"&gt;ASE&lt;/a&gt; or some other certifying body. When I interviewed with my current employer I presented my credentials as a Microsoft Certified Database Administrator (MCDBA). All of these documents indicate that the bearer has completed some sort of training or testing to verify that they are qualified to provide a particular service. Even though in some cases these certificates are required by law (which is a discussion for another time) they nonetheless add value to their services in the form of consumer confidence, and most people are willing to pay a bit more for the services of a certified provider versus one who is uncertified.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What if, however, you entered your doctor&amp;#39;s office or auto repair shop and saw, not a certification, but the provider&amp;#39;s birth certificate? Likewise, what if I had simply provided my prospective employer with a copy of my birth certificate, rather than my MCDBA certification? Would this document have indicated a single thing about the ability to perform the service offered? What about a work visa, passport, or green card? Do these documents add any value for consumers of our services? No, of course not. They simply indicate that the bearer has met some set of arbitrary, bureaucratic requirements in order to obtain the government&amp;#39;s permission to live and work within our political borders. Why, then, is there the presumption that they are necessary for an individual to move freely about the country?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Do any of these documents serve to reassure us that the holder will be a productive member of the community? Do they, in fact, say &lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;anything&lt;/span&gt; useful about the possessor at all? If you have racist or nationalist tendencies, then perhaps they do, but I can think of no other reason these documents should hold any weight whatsoever.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Many who oppose illegal immigration do so simply because the rest of us are already saddled with a myriad of stifling rules, taxes, and regulations, and so everyone else who desires to come to this country must abide by those same laws. This completely ignores the question of the validity of those laws to begin with. However, rather than call for the abolition of taxpayer-funded entitlements, most people prefer instead to rail against the &amp;quot;flood of illegals&amp;quot; that are supposedly &amp;quot;draining our economy.&amp;quot; They fail to realize that these &amp;quot;free&amp;quot; services may be part of what attracts immigrants to the US in the first place, though one wonders how an immigrant without a valid government ID would go about obtaining government services.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;These people are correct in one regard...the taxes and endless entitlement programs are indeed a drain on the economy, as are the rules and regulations. Exactly how they affect the economy is a subject for another post, but the fact is that the government programs should be the target of public ire...not illegal immigrants.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://mises.org/Community/aggbug.aspx?PostID=7821" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item><item><title>Responsible Consumerism?</title><link>http://mises.org/Community/blogs/ronorama/archive/2007/11/15/responsible-consumerism.aspx</link><pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 15:16:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">944abf2b-d1be-4bf2-990d-438cb0e377e9:3516</guid><dc:creator>Ronorama</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><wfw:commentRss xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/">http://mises.org/Community/blogs/ronorama/rsscomments.aspx?PostID=3516</wfw:commentRss><comments>http://mises.org/Community/blogs/ronorama/archive/2007/11/15/responsible-consumerism.aspx#comments</comments><description>&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071115/ap_on_hi_te/comcast_data_discrimination" target="_blank"&gt;Comcast is being sued&lt;/a&gt; for allegedly limiting bandwidth to file-sharing applications. &lt;a href="http://www.fiercebroadbandwireless.com/story/verizon-settles-lawsuit-over-unlimited-data-plans/2007-10-25" target="_blank"&gt;Verizon recently settled&lt;/a&gt; a similar suit over its &amp;quot;unlimited&amp;quot; data plan.&lt;/p&gt;



&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;If you notice, however, on
the Verizon commercials there’s a disclaimer that says, “Some restrictions apply.” So
when you get to the store, and YOU ACTUALLY READ THE CONTRACT before you sign
it, it says that there are certain types of data (mp3s, streaming media, etc.)
to which the “unlimited” moniker doesn’t apply. &lt;/p&gt;



&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So does this constitute fraud…when they say “unlimited” but don’t
mean “unlimited”? Would they be off the hook if they had simply chosen a
different term? &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In the case of Comcast, they’re not blocking or limiting any particular
type of activity. They’re merely throttling bandwidth on connections that are
consuming a disproportionate amount thereof, in order to leave some bandwidth
available to the rest of their subscribers. In their ads they promise “speeds &lt;b&gt;up to&lt;/b&gt; [whatever]”, and “blazing
download speeds”. In the first case there’s an implication that a certain speed
is possible but not guaranteed. The meaning of the second is highly subjective,
so there’s no way one person can say he wasn’t getting what he was promised. To
a former dial-up user 100 kbps is “blazing”. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Where does the responsibility of the consumer fall in this case? At what point does the consumer have a responsibility to know what he or she is getting into before they sign a contract? If you go to the store under the pretense that you&amp;#39;re signing up for an &amp;quot;unlimited&amp;quot; plan, but upon reading the contract find out that it&amp;#39;s not really unlimited, what have you lost? How have your rights been violated?&amp;nbsp; You&amp;#39;ve given up some of your time, sure, but our time is the price we pay in the name of due diligence and responsible behavior. Where do we draw the &amp;quot;false advertising&amp;quot; line?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://mises.org/Community/aggbug.aspx?PostID=3516" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item><item><title>Stupid Arguments - RE: Immigration</title><link>http://mises.org/Community/blogs/ronorama/archive/2007/11/06/stupid-arguments-re-immigration.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 22:19:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">944abf2b-d1be-4bf2-990d-438cb0e377e9:2887</guid><dc:creator>Ronorama</dc:creator><slash:comments>10</slash:comments><wfw:commentRss xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/">http://mises.org/Community/blogs/ronorama/rsscomments.aspx?PostID=2887</wfw:commentRss><comments>http://mises.org/Community/blogs/ronorama/archive/2007/11/06/stupid-arguments-re-immigration.aspx#comments</comments><description>&lt;p&gt;Here&amp;#39;s the first installment in my list of stupid arguments I&amp;#39;ve heard regarding government, law, economics, etc.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#39;ve talked to a number of people who say they have no problem with people immigrating to the U.S. in order to build a better life, but fervently believe that &amp;quot;they should have to do it legally!&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Why? So that they&amp;#39;re &amp;quot;on the hook&amp;quot; to pay taxes? Everyone should share in the burden of taxation equally?  &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;What other &amp;quot;benefit&amp;quot; could possibly be provided to anyone by the legal immigration process? Specifically, what benefit does it proved to those of us who are natural-born citizens? Are we in any way guaranteed of anything positive simply because someone has been put through what is certainly an expensive, lengthy, frustrating, and most likely humiliating bureaucratic process?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Of course, I don&amp;#39;t know for sure that the immigration process is all of those things, but it&amp;#39;s safe to assume. Otherwise, why isn&amp;#39;t every immigrant pursuing it?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://mises.org/Community/aggbug.aspx?PostID=2887" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item><item><title>What would Murray Rothbard say?</title><link>http://mises.org/Community/blogs/ronorama/archive/2007/10/12/what-would-murray-rothbard-say.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 13:03:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">944abf2b-d1be-4bf2-990d-438cb0e377e9:1388</guid><dc:creator>Ronorama</dc:creator><slash:comments>1</slash:comments><wfw:commentRss xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/">http://mises.org/Community/blogs/ronorama/rsscomments.aspx?PostID=1388</wfw:commentRss><comments>http://mises.org/Community/blogs/ronorama/archive/2007/10/12/what-would-murray-rothbard-say.aspx#comments</comments><description>&lt;p&gt;First, the question, then some background info:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Q: What would happen, in the United States, if the government &amp;quot;went away&amp;quot; right now?&lt;/b&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Some friends and I had this discussion the other day, and one theory was that society would basically devolve into &amp;quot;warlord states&amp;quot;, whereby whoever has the most guns would control resources and thus maintain a position of power. This is the scenario that is inevitably postulated by military-types, and indeed the friend who insisted on the certainty of this outcome is a military-type guy.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;This is, admittedly, a pretty easy scenario to swallow. Much like the various riots that occur on college campuses after football games, or in cities where law enforcement is temporarily rendered useless for whatever reason, it&amp;#39;s easy to believe that the sudden lack of government would give many people a sense that they could get away with whatever they wanted. For a short period of time, at least, it&amp;#39;s certainly conceivable that there would be a great deal of rampant crime, probably mostly theft and destruction of property. But once that initial &amp;quot;high&amp;quot; is gone, what would happen?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I suspect that the initial rioting wouldn&amp;#39;t be as bad as most people believe it would be, and I further suspect that it would be confined primarily to urban areas that already have high rates of crime. For many people, life would go on as usual. People would still have bills to pay, and most of them would still have jobs to go to in order to pay those bills. Of course, there would be thousands of government employees looking for work, so that presents some problems, but that issue is somewhat tangential to the main question. The lack of law enforcement does raise one interesting question...what incentive does anyone have to pay their bills or continue to pay their mortgage if there&amp;#39;s no government to punish them if they don&amp;#39;t? Can we rely on the honor system or the goodness of peoples&amp;#39; hearts to make sure contracts are adhered to, bills owed for services rendered are paid, and private property is respected?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I must admit that I didn&amp;#39;t have a good rebuttal against this argument. I&amp;#39;m a pretty smart guy, but I&amp;#39;m having trouble bringing this scenario to its full, logical conclusion in an Austrian framework. The only thing I&amp;#39;ve come up with so far is that this scenario would instantly increase the market for private protection. Many former policemen and women would find plenty of work guarding individual homes and communities from would-be aggressors. In addition, the market for private collection agencies may increase as well, thereby helping to ensure that money owed is remitted in a timely manner. Still, there must be other reasons to believe that anarchy can be peaceful and organized. I realize, of course, that peaceful interaction does not presuppose the existence of government...the original immigrants to the U.S. interacted with one another peacefully while basically government-free. Some may attribute that to their particular ideology, but I think there&amp;#39;s more to it than that. I&amp;#39;m just not 100% sure what that is.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;So the challenge I present to all who wish to participate is to provide examples of inherent mechanisms that foster peaceful interaction in the absence of government. Hopefully we&amp;#39;ll all learn something from the exercise.  &lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://mises.org/Community/aggbug.aspx?PostID=1388" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/ronorama/archive/tags/murray+rothbard/default.aspx">murray rothbard</category><category domain="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/ronorama/archive/tags/anarchy/default.aspx">anarchy</category></item></channel></rss>