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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="http://mises.org/Community/utility/FeedStylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>What you need to know about the economic "crisis"</title><link>http://mises.org/Community/blogs/radicalidealism/archive/2008/09/29/what-you-need-to-know-about-the-economic-quot-crisis-quot.aspx</link><description>Economics is not a complicated science. This may not seem obvious to you if you&amp;#39;ve following the news from Washington, where a cabal of politicians, financiers and lobbyists have been spent the last several weeks desperately making a series of increasingly</description><dc:language>en</dc:language><generator>CommunityServer 2008.5 SP2 (Build: 40407.4157)</generator><item><title>re: What you need to know about the economic "crisis"</title><link>http://mises.org/Community/blogs/radicalidealism/archive/2008/09/29/what-you-need-to-know-about-the-economic-quot-crisis-quot.aspx#61745</link><pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 13:42:08 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">944abf2b-d1be-4bf2-990d-438cb0e377e9:61745</guid><dc:creator>Kristina</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;It then boils down to the government who tried pushing to lower interest rates that lead to this housing crisis...&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;FYI: I found this survey about the current economic downturn and I think it’s helpful to get involved.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a rel="nofollow" target="_new" href="http://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?key=p-XlwgJysoV-gV-D6-1d_XQ"&gt;spreadsheets.google.com/viewform&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thanks!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://mises.org/Community/aggbug.aspx?PostID=61745" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item><item><title>re: What you need to know about the economic "crisis"</title><link>http://mises.org/Community/blogs/radicalidealism/archive/2008/09/29/what-you-need-to-know-about-the-economic-quot-crisis-quot.aspx#55438</link><pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 19:36:43 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">944abf2b-d1be-4bf2-990d-438cb0e377e9:55438</guid><dc:creator>gene pringle</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;I saw this summary&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Typical Cenral Bank scenario &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;as first established by Bank of England circa 1600 and used as the model for&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;most central banks since.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Private bankers and the gov’t form a private corporation (name makes it sound like the government ie Bank of England) with the gov’t receiving 20% of shares and the right to appoint the board (so what, money will influence it), Private bankers receive 80% shares. Central bank given a monopoly on the printing of ALL currency. All done to stabilize banking and credit for the good of the people.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Government provides initial reserve eg. 20 million in gold&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Cenral Bank allowed to print 10X reserve in currency (Fractional Reserve Banking)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;that they then lend out to the regional and small banks or the gov’t at interest. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;ie THEY CAN LEND &amp;nbsp;OUT 200 million and collect the interest on it (all for their own pocket) without having had any money!! &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It gets better&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Everytime the Gov’t needs money ( say the next years 50 million dollar deficit) they then borrow from the Central Bank using Gov’t Bonds as security which, because it is a Gov’t bond the Central Bank can then can use it as “gold” security and in this case lend out another 500 million at interest ie10X&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So at this point the bankers are collecting interest on 700 million that they didn’t even have. Currently the US owes the reserve and others a total of 13 trillion dollars, who had 13 trillion to loan? They didn’t, they just kept printing it and making more and more money. The US owes billions to people who didn’t even actually have it to lend. Estimated profit to the US Federal Reserve shareholders in 2007 was over 200 Billion&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It gets better&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It is fairly well agreed among senior economists that the Fed reserve caused the great depression when on a preset day in 1929 they called all the brokerage loans, everyone had to cover margins. They had first made money very available in the roaring 20’s, then when everyone was extended totally shrunk the money supply by 2/3 and bought all the bankrupt companies for pennies on the dollar. With the money supply tight, no one could get a loan and had to sell. At the time everyone was amazed that the Rockefellers and JP Morgan, amongst others (fed shareholders) were so smart that they had gotten out right before the crash….the value of knowledge or the worst case of insider trading. At the end of the depression these people owned all the newspapers and all the radio and other media and just about everything else.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And its happened in the same pattern a couple times since ie S&amp;amp;L crisis etc&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Sounds like the current housing crisis &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;News: Fed reserve bails out AIG with 85 Billion dollars for a 79.9% stake of a trillion dollar company. Everyone thinks it’s the government that has bailed them out, meanwhile billions of dollars go from the little investor to the pockets of the people so wealthy they don’t even show up on the list as everything is behind family trusts etc. (estimated the Rothchild family owned over 55% of the worlds wealth in 1860, estimated earnings of one part of the family business was over a trillion dollars in 2007)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;At the end of it, the taxpayer will get all the bad paper and the fed reserve shareholders get the assets, which will dramatically increase in value as they pass over to the Gov’t the bad debt.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It gets better&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;News: UN to form WORLD BANK owned by…….. all the cental banks…all owned by ..&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Presidential Quotes:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their &amp;nbsp;currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks...will deprive the people of &amp;nbsp;all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered.... The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;... The modern theory of the perpetuation of debt has drenched the earth with blood, and crushed its inhabitants under burdens ever accumulating. -Thomas Jefferson&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;History records that the money changers have used every form of abuse, intrigue, deceit, and violent means possible to maintain their control over governments by &amp;nbsp;controlling money and its issuance. -James Madison&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If congress has the right under the Constitution to issue paper money, it was &amp;nbsp;given them to use themselves, not to be delegated to individuals or corporations. -Andrew Jackson&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The Government should create, issue, and circulate all the currency and &amp;nbsp;credits needed to satisfy the spending power of the Government and the buying power of &amp;nbsp;consumers. By the adoption of these principles, the taxpayers will be saved immense sums of interest. Money will cease to be master and become the servant of humanity. -Abraham &amp;nbsp;Lincoln&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Issue of currency should be lodged with the government and be protected from domination by Wall Street. We are opposed to...provisions [which] would place our currency and credit system in private hands. - Theodore Roosevelt&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Despite these warnings, Woodrow Wilson signed the 1913 Federal Reserve Act. A few years later he wrote: I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country. A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of &amp;nbsp;credit is concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most &amp;nbsp;completely controlled and dominated Governments in the civilized world no longer a &amp;nbsp;Government by free opinion, no longer a Government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a Government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men. -Woodrow &amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
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