re: What Do Global Warmers Fear The Most?

markb — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 01:41:21 GMT

An educated public. Of course, they can relax, as this is a non-existent threat....

re: What Do Global Warmers Fear The Most?

constitutionwarrior — Sat, 12 Apr 2008 02:21:37 GMT

what the global warming crowd fears is secondary to the underlying group that actually is spearheading it.

that being the anti-capitalist collectivists.

That being said the recent info from NOAA shows that the temperature average is DROPPING.

Now what do they do?

re: What Do Global Warmers Fear The Most?

Quanticles — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 02:32:38 GMT

Although I'm in the camp that believes that CO2 is harmless, isn't claiming that Global Warming supporters are opposed to "mobility for the masses" a straw man attack? They're not luddites, they only want to avoid a large number of "polluting" vehicles.

re: What Do Global Warmers Fear The Most?

John Reid — Mon, 14 Jan 2008 22:06:34 GMT

What Global Warmers fear most is a technological solution to the CO2 problem. Such a solution is possible as follows:

1 There are environmental advantages in mixing the upper layers of the ocean by bringing deep nutrients into the light where photosynthesis by phytoplankton can occur.

2 These advantages include augmenting the volume and diversity of ocean fish stocks and sequestration of atmospheric CO2 into the deep ocean.

3 The energy to carry out oceanic mixing is available in the form of superheated water from hydrothermal vents on the ocean floor.

4 A fluidic heat engine has been devised in the form of a large bubble pump which converts superheated water from these vents into the mechanical energy needed to bring nutrient-rich water to the surface.

5 The bubble pump amplifies the vent flow by a factor of 30,000 by virtue of the huge buoyancy created when the vent water boils at intermediate depths.

6 The cost of construction and deployment of such bubble pumps can be justified economically in terms of commercial fish stocks created and carbon credits traded.

7 There are both sufficient nutrients and sufficient energy available to allow such schemes to be developed for decades to come, even to reverse recent increases in atmospheric CO2.

The technology to implement this scheme is already available within the offshore oil and gas industry. Implementation is more of a political problem. Artificial fisheries in mid-ocean will require international agreement about security of investment and changes to the Law of the Sea. Some will have strong moral objections to "tampering with nature" in such a manner.

More information can be obtained at www.ecofluidics.com.

John Reid